Running a marathon this morning. I did not hate the extra hour of sleep.
― tobo73, Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:22 (ten months ago) link
Gonna be a long ass Sunday for sure
― calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 12:31 (ten months ago) link
for some reason I didn’t put two and two together with the thread being bumped and was irritated when I woke up early this morning. But it turns out I did not technically wake up earlycats still refuse to acknowledge clocks, afaict
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:12 (ten months ago) link
Is anyone reporting on what this year’s death toll was?
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:15 (ten months ago) link
Living in the US now while still administrating a business in the UK, which put its own clocks back last week (?), and now I don't know what is what or where I am, possibly due to having to wake up at 4am every day for the past 6 months.
Back to bed I think.
― like being cornered by a drunk gareth southgate (Matt #2), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:20 (ten months ago) link
In the UK the clocks went back a week ago FYI.
― Tim, Sunday, 5 November 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link
(Weirdly I ready your post as "next week" and thought I'd help).
My wife texted me last Monday to say "I had no idea the clocks went back yesterday!" - all her clocks had re-set automatically and she'd just snaffled the extra hour asleep: perfect.
― Tim, Sunday, 5 November 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link
anyone defending DST will immediately be FPd, just be honest and admit that you don't care about the increased death rate
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Don't you get enough attention at home or something?
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 November 2023 17:09 (ten months ago) link
Today has already lasted a year
― calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:37 (ten months ago) link
Re: deaths.
Almost no one dies during the skipped hour in the spring, though. Statistically, that's the safest hour of the year!
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:39 (ten months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:43 (ten months ago) link
That descending riff would have so much more bite on a 6 ITS 434
― calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:34 (ten months ago) link
And if I played guitar, I'd be Jimmy PageDaylight savings time makes me rage
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:54 (ten months ago) link
Lol
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:04 (ten months ago) link
5pm and it dark. bad
― ivy., Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:19 (ten months ago) link
Arizona is ahead of the game here
― octobeard, Monday, 6 November 2023 00:21 (ten months ago) link
― ivy., Sunday, November 5, 2023
the offset is having light in the winter before 7:00 in the morning, which is fine by me
daylight savings in the summer means having more light in the evening with the longer days rather than the morning. I have an east-facing bedroom and don't want to wake up to sunlight at 5 am
the switch between daylight savings and standard time seems completely logical to me
― Dan S, Monday, 6 November 2023 00:35 (ten months ago) link
Arizona doesn't have daylight savings because it is scorching hot there in the summer
― Dan S, Monday, 6 November 2023 00:39 (ten months ago) link
Which I don't get. Sunrise tomorrow will be roughly 7:30, by which point I'll already have been up for an hour; sunset will be roughly 5:30, and I go to sleep between 10:30 and 11. By the time December rolls around I'll be lucky to get eight hours of daylight in a 24-hour span.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 6 November 2023 00:42 (ten months ago) link
With the time change, sunrise tomorrow will come at 6:40 am, at least where I live. I'm a morning person, but I don't want first sunlight to come after 7:30 am or before 5:00 am. The time change corrects for that
― Dan S, Monday, 6 November 2023 01:31 (ten months ago) link
“It gets late so early now”
― calstars, Monday, 6 November 2023 21:48 (ten months ago) link
Calstars Berra
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 November 2023 21:59 (ten months ago) link
It's always made me angry, since i was a lil kid, that the priority was for the drudgery of commuting to school or work to be sunlit, at the expense of having a measly hour for recreation afterwards. I still reflexively see it as a form of capitalist oppression even though i know it's a little more complex- that sharply delineated "recreation time" only exists in opposition to time devoted to capitalist production, that one of the arguments being advanced to make DST permanent is that it boosts spending. i mean unless you are one of those freaks who gets up at 6am and goes for a run standard time is awfully dreary.
― Deflatormouse, Monday, 6 November 2023 22:31 (ten months ago) link
5pm and it dark. bad― ivy., Sunday, November 5, 2023
It's always made me angry, since i was a lil kid, that the priority was for the drudgery of commuting to school or work to be sunlit, at the expense of having a measly hour for recreation afterwards.― Deflatormouse, Monday, November 6, 2023
these are arguments in favor of permanent daylight savings, not ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!, the subject of this thread, which so many people seem to want to get rid of
I would be happy with permanent daylight savings. I would just have to close my shades against the sun in early morning hours in the summer.
But is the time change that onerous? Your clocks mostly reset themselves, and an hour difference doesn’t seem like that much
― Dan S, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:25 (ten months ago) link
Let’s pick this discussion up in about 4 months
― calstars, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:26 (ten months ago) link
it's not that big of a deal
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:29 (ten months ago) link
yeah I'm used to it and I guess I like the novelty that comes in the spring
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:35 (ten months ago) link
Right now I feel slightly more energized. But we'll see how long that lasts.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:39 (ten months ago) link
this is the kind of thing i usually just ignore but it's kinda funny in this case
these are arguments in favor of permanent daylight savings, not ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!
i realize that.
...but you are anticipating permanent standard time here, not permanent DST :)
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:42 (ten months ago) link
i mean even on DST it gets light out at 5am here in june, you probably need to close your shades either way?
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/interactive/2022/permanent-standard-time-body-health-benefits/
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:59 (ten months ago) link
https://underthesuninserts.com/cdn/shop/products/ChangesinLatitudeChangesinAttitudeSunsetScene.jpg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 01:55 (ten months ago) link
Your body doesn't know Daylight Time from Standard Time. It just knows when its rhythm has been kicked to the curb. What it likes is the "permanent" part, not which clock setting we go with.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 01:56 (ten months ago) link
oh my body knows
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 01:57 (ten months ago) link
it knows summer from winter, daytime from night, and has a good glimmer of how long 24 hours is. the rest of it is your brain talking.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 02:01 (ten months ago) link
The only way to end this is the Solomonic solution: spring 30 minutes ahead and leave it there forever.
We will never reconcile the permanent DST crowd with the permanent ST crowd.
Ditto the clock-change fans and the clock-change haters.
Hence my solution: shift half an hour, and never shift again.
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 12:31 (ten months ago) link
An overlooked factor in all this chatter is that no matter which setting we are using, sunrise and sunset times are nearly an hour different from one side of a time zone to the other just because it takes the sun roughly an hour to traverse a zone.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 16:37 (ten months ago) link
well then we should make time zones horizontal
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
sexy
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link
530 still feels like 930 suppp
― calstars, Sunday, 12 November 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link
"The only way to end this is the Solomonic solution: spring 30 minutes ahead and leave it there forever. "
There are those crazy time zones that have the 30 minute difference like in New Delhi.
― earlnash, Sunday, 12 November 2023 22:35 (ten months ago) link
It also often takes way more than an hour to drive (or even fly) from one time zone to another. We're being cheated.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 13 November 2023 02:23 (ten months ago) link
And I was just getting up, hit the road before it's lightTrying to catch an hour on the sun
― brimstead, Monday, 13 November 2023 03:53 (ten months ago) link
yo fuck this, it's 6:30 not 5:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4EUTMPuvHo
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 01:33 (six months ago) link
Otoh the clock in my car is telling the correct time again
― sarahell, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 01:43 (six months ago) link
nice work
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 01:45 (six months ago) link
no point in changing the clock for just four months
back in my day we had *real* standard time
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 01:51 (six months ago) link
ha it's true! this is a watered down compromise, nobody is happy
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 02:17 (six months ago) link
Man, Day Three and I don't know how Mountain Time people get up an hour early like this.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:18 (six months ago) link
Yeah, I know it's time-trickery but I feel a big relief when Daylight Savings comes around... finishing work and still having some light to go for a walk
Husker Du: "Somewhere in April time they add another Owwerrr!" Did it used to be in April or is that just a songwriting/syllable convenience?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 17:51 (six months ago) link