Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Just now I was reading the CNN profiles (? this deserves a better word) of the 18 dead, which is how I learned that a number of them were participating in a deaf cornhole league. I don't know what to do with this information. It breaks my heart.

He should have just taken himself out in the first place without visiting misery on so many others.

A more common scenario, to be fair

He was hearing evil voices from the bowling alley though. Not every case is the same but for an outsider it’s pretty terrifying to see how that kind of paranoia has a hold on someone with severe schizophrenia. I even had another encounter with what was probably a paranoid schizophrenic during the New York Film Festival. He ran up to the ticket window, clearly “looking” for the people there and repeated angry accusations that they were secretly talking about terrible things involving him. When a staff member tried to accost him, he spit a giant loogie on the window and fled in terror. He looked like he was very poor and homeless and not likely to own a gun, but imagine if Card had become like that.

(To be clear, what I meant was, he should never have had access to guns when it was obvious he lost his mind.)

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— David Roberts (@drvolts) October 30, 2023

see, the good guy with a gun isn't a myth.

All it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a bad guy with a gun.

There is currently a dustup in Georgia about whether to arm teachers. Republican lawmakers want to offer financial incentive for them to get training and carry. Fucking insane.

nothing says 'public safety' more than having a bunch of unsecured handguns floating around an elementary school

good luck with the lawsuit when an unhinged teacher kills a few students with a state-sponsored handgun.

My elementary school principal got fired for bringing a gun to school and pointing it at a kid in his office

Thinking about all of my high school teachers and how definitely none of them should have had guns.

My elementary school principal got fired for bringing a gun to school and pointing it at a kid in his office

It was the 80s, man

He didn't shoot the kid but still got fired? Draconian imo

The kid probably ripped him off in coke deal anyway

The right to bear arms and flash them at minors shall not be infringed.

did he then kick a gun over to the kid and say "pick up the gun"?

It was the 80s, man

Even the Reagan administration supported gun control, and when his successor George H.W. Bush was in office, he rejected the NRA for its sociopathic extremism - that's how fucked up the gun culture is today.

xpost sad lol

The PBS News Hours just listed all the red flags on this Maine dude... the family, the army reserve, everybody was saying this guy is about to snap.. the cops went by his house a couple times but then just let it go

They were on their way to a Dunkin'

I think Maine has some kinda sort 'yellow flag' laws without the teeth of other states' red flag laws

i don't blame the cops. unless there was some severe screw up on that end. it's the lawmakers.

it is 100% on the cops to assess if he's a threat (there was ample evidence) and take him into custody or take his guns away. 100% no debate.

Probably the cops didn't want to deal with the hassle of having their home addresses and children's schools read on air by Fox News anchors -- which, to be clear, is exactly what would have happened if they had taken dude's guns away at any point before he began using them to kill people

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/us/university-of-nevada-las-vegas-campus-shooting/index.html

11 dead (so far) including the gunman.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/prague-university-shooting-leaves-several-dead-police-say-2023-12-21/

Was just reading about this

Not an American export to be proud of

15 dead so far, not including the gunman... who was a student at the university.

Happy new year

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2024/01/04/police-at-perry-high-school-in-iowa-amid-reports-of-school-shooting/72105587007/

jfc

Ron Fucking DeSantis is in Iowa and was brazen enough to make this statement:

"We obviously have a responsibility to create safe environments," DeSantis said in an exclusive interview with the Des Moines Register and NBC News. "The federal government is probably not going to be leading that effort, I think it is more of a local and state issue, but we've shown how it's done in Florida."

One sixth grader (for those confused, as I initially was, this is a small enough town where the middle school and high school share a building) killed and five others injured. Not that the age should ever matter, but as a parent of a sixth grader this hits even harder.

I despair at the fact that no meaningful change will ever come from this broken shithole garbage country and hundreds of parents are just going to be expected to lose their children every year just because captain dipshit has seen too many movies and is terrified a brown person might accidentally speak to them. Fuck this bullshit country forever and ever.

Tell us how you really feel, jon

Just noticed the shooter's first name was Dylan.. like Dylan Klebold, Dylann Roof

xp - yeah, sorry YMP, I should just be quiet, docile and silently accept that this is just the price we pay for "freedom" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

furious profanity is the hardest clapping

man i regret that jon. i am truly sorry, i'd love to undo that.

my son was 7 when they started doing active shooter drills and it kind of messed him up, for a month he was asking about strangers entering the school, if there were any "bad guys" where we lived, he even told me once he wanted to bring a gun of his own so he could shoot the bad guy and protect his sister (you see Republicans, you have the same logical capabilities as a 7 year old). he started getting up at night and locking all the doors in the house. and I can't even say "maybe these drills do more harm than good" because there's still a nonzero chance that could save his life one day. it just fucking sucks so much.

It's just disheartening and infuriating to watch it repeat over and over and over again and knowing that nothing is ever going to change because so many people in positions of power simply don't care.

It's fine Hunt3r, I'm not offended, I get that it wasn't a helpful post. But it came from the intensity of my impotent rage about this issue and I don't really regret it. Raging and swearing doesn't change anything either, but I don't know, I somehow feel it's important to remember this isn't normal and we shouldn't expect it to just be a part of life. Other than donating to causes like Everytown and voting for local and national candidates that actually do care about righting this, I feel powerless about something so fundamentally fucked up that we (meaning American society) has just casually let happen.

"have just casually let happen", that should be

he even told me once he wanted to bring a gun of his own so he could shoot the bad guy and protect his sister (you see Republicans, you have the same logical capabilities as a 7 year old)

It would seem to me that your son's reaction is the exact desired one, in this case

active shooter drills:

- there is no evidence they work (literally none!)
- there is tons of evidence they are incredibly harmful
- they protect against something that happens once every 6000 years at a given school (i know this thread is revived too often, but it's important to remember how rare these things are when you're making a decision that involves trade offs, e.g. many hours of lost schooling, traumatizing toddlers, etc.),

i don't think they're *designed* to militarize and traumatize kids so they think guns are part of life. they happen in too many liberal states for that to make sense (e.g. NY requires four per year! more than any other state). they're just a completely deranged and shameful "we must do *something*" response. (and they also happen to be very profitable for the people that consult on them and run them.)

our school tells us when they will be, and we have the luxury of keeping our kids home (6 and 3! can you imagine 3 year olds doing this?!) i think we're technically breaking the law when we do this.

there was an attempt in the NY assembly last year to reduce the number to 1 per year and allow parents to opt out, but it got tied up in the usual venal legislative bs.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/14/iowa-principal-school-shooting-died-00135533

Several people shot at New York City subway station, police say

Police spokesperson could not immediately say how many people were shot or the extent of their injuries
Associated Press
Mon 12 Feb 2024 18.03 EST

Several people were shot Monday at a New York City subway station, police said.

The shooting was reported about 4.38pm.

A police spokesperson could not immediately say how many people were shot, the extent of their injuries or whether anyone was in custody.

The station is in the Bronx, at the intersection of Mount Eden and Jerome Avenues.

Video from television news helicopters showed a subway train stopped at the station and orange evidence cones on the elevated platform.

Also this one I heard on the radio this morning. Too few to qualify as mass shooting, but strange in its own right. Occurred at J03l 05t33n's mega-church. And the female shooter's 7 yr old son was shot in the head, likely by the guards there since the shooter came in with him.

https://news.yahoo.com/woman-opened-fire-joel-osteens-145458078.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Texas is the reason

Police believe Moreno legally purchased the AR-15 in December.

Authorities have not released a motive for the shooting. Hassig said Moreno had a "mental health history"

Osteen's reaction to this was genuinely creepy and inhuman, he was smirking through the whole thing