Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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SBF about to take the stand!

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/26/business/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-trial

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:00 (two years ago)

Whoops, or not:

And in a twist, there will be no testimony from Bankman-Fried after all today. The jury is being sent home so the lawyers and the judge can hold a hearing as to what Bankman-Fried will be allowed to testify on.

Well, soon enough.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:01 (two years ago)

if he makes this work i’m ready to buy in on crypto for i will have seen evidence of brilliance i cannot understand

BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:28 (two years ago)

hopefully he can explain just the what the hell blockchain actually is

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:31 (two years ago)

considering its built-in requirement for ever-increasing computing power and energy use, blockchain is a scheme to perpetually expand the profits of the chip industry and utilities

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

Ohhhhhh what a read this is:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/26/23934195/sam-bankman-fried-self-testimony-deleted-signal

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 October 2023 01:47 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/XoNePWx.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 27 October 2023 01:59 (two years ago)

clearly SBF never watched Petty Mason

mookieproof, Friday, 27 October 2023 01:59 (two years ago)

“I really enjoyed [Lewis’s] book, by the way! Though the reporting in Going Infinite suggests that Bankman-Fried is an unrestrained sociopath, Lewis’s general attitude toward Bankman-Fried may be best summed up as “I love my gamer son.”

BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 October 2023 04:33 (two years ago)

All the LOLs:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/02/business/sam-bankman-fried-trial

Guilty on all counts.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2023 00:01 (two years ago)

well well what will Michael Lewis have to say about this

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:06 (two years ago)

Would be cool if he could be cellies with Elizabeth Holmes in the Tech Grifter cellblock

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 November 2023 00:09 (two years ago)

ha!

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:38 (two years ago)

A brutal read, a necessary one

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/2/23944485/sam-bankman-fried-guilty-verdict-parents

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2023 03:28 (two years ago)

getting a lot more schadenfreude from seeing this guy's parents suffer than i could ever get from him tbh. feel strongly that i'm owed for how many articles i read telling me to take this guy seriously because his dad was a "philosopher" (?), and i'm definitely owed for how many times i read the phrase "their work in legal ethics" adduced as evidence against their having raised a con man. would like to take my payment in the form of images of them just standing there frozen like jimmy stewart looking down from the bell tower

difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 November 2023 03:52 (two years ago)

ha yeah i weirdly look at him and go “what a deluded self-absorbed fool doing illegal shit,” and look at them and think “what a pair of evil assholes who raised a fool, assisted him in swindling millions, were actors in the swindle to their own benefit, and with all of their alleged expertise and judgment, failed to advise him to his benefit! Fuck them and ruin them!”

BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Friday, 3 November 2023 04:40 (two years ago)

the tousle-haired mogul

mookieproof, Friday, 3 November 2023 06:05 (two years ago)

what a scamp

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 November 2023 08:13 (two years ago)

You talk about day
I'm talking 'bout night time
When the monsters call out
The names of men
Bob Dylan knows
And I bet Bankman-Fried did
There are things in night
That are better not to behold

not anti-Skibidi Toilet per se (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 3 November 2023 09:07 (two years ago)

I appreciate this deep cut

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2023 13:46 (two years ago)

how did this happen so quickly when theranos/various trump cases take years on end? was it just that his crimes were so blatant/uncomplicated?

mookieproof, Friday, 3 November 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

It certainly seems to have been a straightforward case for the prosecution to make

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

for holmes the delay was covid + pregnancy

, Friday, 3 November 2023 16:36 (two years ago)

I don't think him taking the stand helped much either

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

Pretty much everyone else charged immediately folded as well.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:37 (two years ago)

starting to think that investing in something called 'crypto' might not be the safest bet

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:51 (two years ago)

feel strongly that i'm owed for how many articles i read telling me to take this guy seriously because his dad was a "philosopher" (?), and i'm definitely owed for how many times i read the phrase "their work in legal ethics" adduced as evidence against their having raised a con man.

― difficult listening hour, Thursday, November 2, 2023 11:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yeah any reasonable dispassionate observer would see the whole ecosystem of elite institutions guys with bags of money and their media apologists as completely corrupt, because it is

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:08 (two years ago)

I suspect Michael Lewis's GOING INFINITE is gonna be a long-term record-holder for amount of changes between the hardcover and paperback editions.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:54 (two years ago)

its very funny to be literally sitting next to a guy while he commits one of the biggest frauds ever and not notice and also write a book about it

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 19:58 (two years ago)

Though the reporting in Going Infinite suggests that Bankman-Fried is an unrestrained sociopath, Lewis’s general attitude toward Bankman-Fried may be best summed up as “I love my gamer son.” In the courtroom, Lewis looked pretty bummed, occasionally shaking his head.

mookieproof, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

Just happened upon this gem of a sketch from last year

https://i.insider.com/63a4b3307877e10018fd618e?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

George Michael on trial!

nickn, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:24 (two years ago)

outside of the fact that he's incredibly guilty and offered up a godawful defense I think this is maybe the flipside of the two systems of justice thing we got goin here, where if you fuck with rich people's money things suddenly start moving very fast. this should've happened with Theranos too but she got lucky with Covid

frogbs, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:28 (two years ago)

I think he looks like a descendent of Genghis Khan. Also there's a dude with an apparent pentagram on his shirt behind him.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:34 (two years ago)

That's Michael LaRoux Matthews from OnCinema investigations unit.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 3 November 2023 22:23 (two years ago)

his attorneys' heads are weirdly small

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 November 2023 22:27 (two years ago)

he looks like a descendent of Genghis Khan

only a few million of those milling around

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 3 November 2023 22:47 (two years ago)

its very funny to be literally sitting next to a guy while he commits one of the biggest frauds ever and not notice and also write a book about it

walt isaacson seems to be on the same beat

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Saturday, 4 November 2023 14:46 (two years ago)

true, tho i hold him to a lower standard than lewis

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

I find the politics of these people inscrutable

A grim month: 31 Israeli and at least 3600 Palestinian children have been killed since October 7.

— Paul Graham (@paulg) November 4, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:18 (two years ago)

Here is the death age distribution in Gaza from before this conflict (from a pro Palestinian source)

The vast majority of "child" deaths were ages 10-18https://t.co/Uo3TYB8Iqb

— Shaun Maguire (@shaunmmaguire) November 4, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:21 (two years ago)

99% of Silicon Valley has the exact politics that leads you to put child in air quotes, and they all worshipped YC until about a month ago.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:46 (two years ago)

cultural sociopathy

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 22:58 (two years ago)

99% of Silicon Valley has the exact politics that leads you to put child in air quotes, and they all worshipped YC until about a month ago.


Eh there are a lot of standard centrist liberals as well.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Saturday, 4 November 2023 23:53 (two years ago)

Also, what happened a month ago?

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Saturday, 4 November 2023 23:55 (two years ago)

And what’s YC

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 4 November 2023 23:57 (two years ago)

Also 10-18 is a bangable age to these guys

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 4 November 2023 23:58 (two years ago)

YC = Y Combinator? I don't see how this helps the rest make any more sense.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 5 November 2023 09:37 (two years ago)

Was using Silicon Valley as shorthand here for Silicon Valley VCs.

They all have insane political theories and practical politics. The all in podcast is representative of this. This is probably not news if you’re on this thread.

YC (Paul graham, sam Altman, etc.) are not an exception. They are also incredibly influential in that set.

Generally the VC reaction to what’s happening in Gaza for the past month has been as vile as you’d expect.

Yet Paulg is posting stuff that is cautiously sympathetic to Palestine. This is upsetting his professional acquaintances (see replies) and tbh doesnt make a ton of sense given all his other views.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:03 (two years ago)

Ok I guess it’s not that surprising if you were paying attention to him 10 years ago

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/07/start-up-guru-has-enraged-israeli-techies.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:12 (two years ago)


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