have you quit the labour party yet?

even a supreme melt like Prof D Edgerton debunked this "worse result for Labour since the 30's" at the time by pointing out that fptp can be brutal and on the metric of getting as many voters as possible to vote for your policy agenda, Blair failed even worse.

On a visit in 2016, I was warmly welcomed into this family’s home. They were so kind.

They showed me how settlers tried to break into their home through their internal walls from the neighbouring house.

Their forcible eviction & loss of their home is heartbreaking & barbaric. https://t.co/XrjprMUqRs

— Andy McDonald MP (@AndyMcDonaldMP) July 12, 2023

Starmer's team are depraved.

I spoke directly with South Wales Islamic Centre and can confirm this account.

Keir Starmer completely misrepresented the visit and the discussion he had with the mosque. The mosque feels exploited and used by the Labour Party and this has caused… 🧵 https://t.co/QmPy6RmsFF

— Fatima (@fatimazsaid) October 23, 2023

the statement from the South Cardiff Islamic Centre is basically apologising to the wider community for even having Starmer there and disabusing any notion that they have anything to do with the cunt. This will come back and bite him. I genuinely hope it fucks up the Labour Party in the next GE.

What a totally unforced error, which is borne out of “they’ve got nowhere else to go”. Cos that worked so well in the past!

I’m not the world’s biggest fan of Sir Keir Starmer KC, but if he genuinely did doorstep an Islamic Centre, cream off a few chummy photos, and then lie about the conversation he had there … that’s some really low behaviour, and would be even if all was calm in Palestine.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 24, 2023

Seen a couple of shadow ministers pushing a line which is basically "I want to be in this seat next year, my career is on the line and I can't say anything to jeopardize this". It just sounds utterly insane.

Save the Children has made an appeal to the PM to demand a ceasefire.

Labour shadow minister Darren Jones explains that Labour can't call for a ceasefire in Gaza because they might win the election next year. pic.twitter.com/7FeO9mjqBl

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) October 25, 2023

It's a strategy, and very tone deaf and weird coming from the advisors that are using it.

Nevermind it's pandering to racists.

🚨 Over 150 Muslim Labour councillors have come together to call on Labour's leadership to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

An unprecedented letter of unity from Muslim Labour representatives shows the strength of feeling throughout the nation and in our communities. pic.twitter.com/nSLUtyegKw

— Labour Muslim Network (@LabourMuslims) October 25, 2023

it's like with Lammy saying I can't speak out against war crimes because it might affect my personal career ambitions

congrats to Kieth for managing to make himself a topic of conversation amongst UK Asian communities, what a despicable clown.

24/5 for Tories to win most seats
9/1 for Conservative majority

out to 6/1 and 10/1 now

it really speaks to these shadow cabinet NPCs's political skills that they're constantly showing their hand to the press

embarrassed enough to want people to know they don't really believe anything they say but not embarrassed enough to give up the job and the perks

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/25/labour-u-turns-on-promise-of-scottish-style-right-to-roam-in-england

can't afford to alienate the wealthy landowner vote

C+P "Labour U-turns"

astonishing but fully understandable stat here

🚨 BREAKING: Amongst Muslims, Labour plunges to 5% (-66pts).

🟥 2019 ~ 71%
🟥 2023 ~ 5%

Labour have lost 93% of their Muslim voters.

Via Muslim Census, 17-26 October pic.twitter.com/w5oXRpUZEK

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) October 26, 2023

Awesome. If it's true, and lasts till the election, a lot of Labour front benchers will be shitting bricks.

there were rumours (again ...yawn) the other day of a few of the shadow cabinet threatening to resign over this. But I can't imagine anyone principled enough to resign would still be there at this point.

I think that drop has been accelerated by the war but it’s been falling off a cliff ever since Starmer got in and immediately started dog whistling and then yelling the quiet part loud. They have a really ugly attitude towards Muslim voters, like they (the voters) should be honoured to get a chance to vote for a party that don’t openly want them deported. The prominence of people like Luke the Nuke…enough said.

They’re probably more concerned about this tbh

The new book from Rachel Reeves cuts and pastes from Wikipedia, The Guardian, a fellow MP and other unacknowledged sources in at least 20 examples of apparent plagiarism. Scoop from @SoumayaKeynes, @GeorgeWParker, @rafeuddin_, @EuanHealy, @stephistacey https://t.co/ydSoA0A4yg

— Tom Braithwaite (@TBraithwaite) October 26, 2023

Is Mein Kampf one of the books?

Hahahaha, busted.

plagiarising Hilary Benn... lool.. amazing

countdown to Rachel blaming her ghostwriter in 5.. 4… 3…

been really enjoying this story today

this sort of stuff is so dreary and cut price.

my rough sketch of what i assume to be the process: rachel reeves has some written thorts, and also wants to raise her profile in tandem with some of the interviews she's been doing recently positioning as a Serious Chancellor in Waiting. publisher feels there may be *some* money off labour being high in the polls. Obv politics x publishing = can you get much stronger in terms of popularity. Problem is, said thorts aren't really cogent or substantial enough to form a book. So publisher gets some poorly paid poorly vetted researchers and says 'can you do something with this reasonably quickly please', nothing that will eat into whatever miniscule margin they expect to make off it. state of the publishing industry fact-checking and editorial competence well known these days.

so, RR: Plagiarist, i sort of discount. RR: shortcut-artist, indifferent to the rigorous exploration and expression of personally held ideology and beliefs, and too lazy or careless about the whole process to check the detail of the content to which she's putting her name? check. which is ofc v much of a one with the public-intellectual-political sphere anyway. wanted to appear substantial without any real substance or actual beliefs, or interest in such.

but sometimes when you're lazy, you get caught out. good. also, from the bits that have been plagiarised, it must read *terribly*.

that sounds about right, and extremely on brand for Zombie Labour

anybody who's going to buy this thing is surely not gonna read it, so quality's not really an issue

Imagine the bleak featureless soul of a person who’d buy a Rachel Reeves book to display on their bookshelf

The whole point (and where the publishers make money) is to get serialisation rights in various publications - the books themselves sell about 1000 copies tops.

The whole point (and where the publishers make money) is to get serialisation rights in various publications - the books themselves sell about 1000 copies tops.

I don't think that someone who has a Nancy Astor portrait taking pride of place in her office is going to be fit to tackle the subject even if she has a proper go at it, probably best off c+ping loads of wiki entries and stitching them together into something apparently coherent.

at least use chatgpt.

i assume that's already running her personality

at least then there would be plausible deniability if she'd GPTed it - even though it would be riddled with factual inaccuracies - but that is the house style. I bet she isn't happy about getting clowned by the FT. She's supposed to be a serious economist - you know big cheese at HBOS and all that shit.

Hahahaha

I’m told 9 Labour councillors in Oxford have now resigned over the party’s support for war crimes, and therefore Labour has lost control of the city’s council

— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) October 26, 2023

The prominence of people like Luke the Nuke…enough said.

― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:08 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know you know this but only people who spend unhealthy amounts of time worrying about all this (like us) know who this freak is. Most voters (incl Muslim ones) are blissfully unaware of him and I deeply envy their peaceful, dream-filled nights.

I guess what i'm saying is how frustrating it is the extent to which politicians can go around with their middle fingers up and for the most part only a contingent of aggrieved cassandras notice. this isn't even the most egregious example!

I'm still residually shocked by how correct Calzino was about SKSKC from the start, while all the very ominous flashing red signals passed me by. I didn't vote for him (i may have not been sent a ballot actually even though I think i was both a member and in an affiliated trade union at the time) but I was fairly complacent about the 'corbynism with a suit' false advertising campaign and thought 'its the nice young man from the mclibel movie' rather than 'its a fucking evil undercover policeman that looks like boiled ham'. And, relatively speaking i'm pretty attentive and you would guess that party members would generally be as a whole relative to the population and it looks like the heist worked on a significant number of the rest too.

I didn't know him before so I expected him to be a midpoint between miliband and blair instead of between blair and powell - I guess the suit fooled me into thinking he was a boring centrist management type instead of a raging white supremacist cop

what's the difference you say and fair point

i remember the electric billboards stationed everywhere in south london looking for people who stole a toaster from currys during the mark duggan protests and the all night courts etc so the pieces were easily there for me to put together if I had been minded to. I feel like on this endless endless thread this sentiment was close to the norm (? - apologies to anyone with more foresight) probably in part due to the demoralising exhaustion of 2019.

i thought at the time that calz was being over-sceptical and i probably said as much. i'm (un)happy to admit i was very wrong and he was right. tho tbf it took less than 24 hours in post for Kieth's mask to come off iirc

and plax i think you're right about exhaustion, when the leadership election was happening i guess a lot of us were still trying to cling onto some kind of hope

that was a really dark time but it feels like we've just acclimatised to the darkness

I'm not a particularly prescient fuckwit but Corbynism improved my focus on how wretched the rest of the party is. The flashing red signals from his DPP days were burning very bright to me, like the summary justice doled out at the night courts. The enthusiasm for extraditing vulnerable autistics into a US supermax hellhole (and he succeeded with one of them). The enthusiasm for giving longer custodial sentences for benefits fraud. All this stuff was expanded on in more grisly detail later in the Eagleton book to also reveal other rotten layers of his character like his embarrassing kowtowing to Pentagon officials and indifference to racist lynch mobs who burn effigies of GRT children.

Apparently Starmer told one Muslim Labour MP that the party are waiting for the US to call for a ceasefire before they endorse such a position.

i'd given up on the Labour Party well before 2015, i feel like the mistake was allowing myself to believe again for those 4 years

my first ever vote was for Ed in 2015, because I wanted to mitigate the evil of austerity by 1.2% lol

I joined Labour in Dec 2019 in order to vote for a halfway decent new leader (was in China in 2015 or would have done so then) - I then had a phone call from Kieth's team asking whether they could count on my vote, when I said "definitely not" the canvasser seemed to be flat out astonished.

it wasn't a mistake to take advantage of the space that briefly opened up - I hope people can remember not to take what seems possible at face value because what happened (even though it "failed") didn't seem possible until it did

I was trying to do an "anti-anti- but not pro-corbyn" thing during that time which was probably a mistake because it got lost in the noise and I just came off as a hater to some and a corbyn stan in denial to others

I don't think anyone predicted accurately how terrible Kieth would turn out, not just politically but also tactically and regarding the media facing side of the job. He still could have been a conservative reactionary cop and not reneged on every single leadership pledge and alienated *checks notes* almost the entire UK Asian community from the party. And there was this illusion that he was competent and a tenacious lawyer type character around him in his early days, which was very quickly revealed to be 100% projection by the UK commentariat, lol very quickly.