Israel to World: "Suck It."

Biden is such a disgusting coward, but same with the EU and the UK leadership responses, the UK is barely even a serious country these days. Talking about deporting foreign students with a Palestine flag on their social media. Just sick deranged people, cowardly people in positions where you need people who have the desire to prevent planned humanitarian catastrophes.

“You can’t cure killed babies with more dead babies. We need peace.”

The son of a missing Israeli peace activist says that his mother would be mortified by the situation in Gaza, and that vengeance is not a strategy. pic.twitter.com/soKJ76nfGc

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) October 13, 2023

the son of Vivian Silver, the Canadian peace activist taken hostage

Chris Hayes is trying, he’s really trying, to reframe the narrative within the cramped confines of prime time corporate media, and a personality (his own l)that doesn’t exactly relish confrontation (see his persistent-if-gentle pushback at Cory Booker’s frothing-at-the-mouth hawkishness yesterday for example). Daniel Levy was interviewed on the show tonight and in one fell swoop cut through a week’s worth of CNN-MSNBC mostly parroting the Netanyahu framing of the conflict. I could be wrong , but I felt as though Hayes had him on to say what he can’t quite bring himself to say.

I am on a train & the people in seats close to me have been talking incessantly for 30 minutes about their holiday plans all over the world, the latest expensive skin treatments they’ve had & the musicals they’re going to — George Habash’s words from 1970 are ringing in my ears: pic.twitter.com/SXNqodPU9u

— Louis Allday (@Louis_Allday) October 14, 2023

on the train on a saturday morning. going to work I can only presume

The work.

march in London about to begin. thousands here demanding an end to the genocide in Gaza and an end to the occupation. pic.twitter.com/7p9kA3bLw8

— michael richmond (@Sisyphusa) October 14, 2023

If Israeli flags start flying over village greens in Northumberland and in shop windows in Derby like the Ukraine flag is, then I'd say the public would be on board with unconditional support. This feels politician led, I don't see UK public following with any fervour

But who knows, if the public gets politicised over it enough that campism kicks in, then maybe. I don't think things are necessarily as easy as all that

Agree, I don't see that happening... well, maybe at Ibrox Park.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-scotlands-fiercest-soccer-rivalry-features-israeli-vs-palestinian-flags/

That was meant for the Labour thread not this one

xp some prime campism there at Ibrox

Judith Butler in the LRB

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n20/judith-butler/the-compass-of-mourningl

Von der Leyen getting pretty sharply criticised by the Irish Times, a paper about as right wing and pro EU as they come, almost surprising to me.

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2023/10/13/as-von-der-leyen-visits-israel-is-the-commission-overstretching-its-powers/

Her approach has caused deepening unease within European institutions and in national capitals as Israel undertakes what the Taoiseach has described as “collective punishment” against the people of Gaza, cutting off water, food and electricity, and now ordering over a million people to evacuate in 24 hours to the alarm of the United Nations.

i've seen a few pieces, maybe upthread, maybe elsewhere, that are stressing the historic meaning of Irish neutrality and that seems to be a big factor in emphasizing the distance from von der Leyen's bullshit

That’s not it (I haven’t seen those pieces though). Irish people have historically sympathised with Palestinians. Varadkar is very right wing but is also descended from colonised people on both sides, I was honestly shocked he said that tbh.

fair point, i know about the sympathies of northern irish catholics especially. maybe the writers playing up neutrality are old tories trying to justify not jumping on team colonialism at the moment

id not call IT nor varadkar anything further than centre right- about where starmer labour is? but ofc who knows if these measures even mean anything in current environments

but was very pleasantly surprised by his comments, yes

as much perhaps about fending off the shadow of SF on EU neutrality and palestine as anything else i suspect (im not sure varadkar has individual moral positions tbh) but welcome and id say definitely much more representative of the public position than the other EU leaders ive seen

anyone have non-paywalled butler ?

https://archive.ph/NJppT

thank you

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

Went to the London demo earlier. It was good.

Oh it's not paywalled (I think?) - I just added in an extra character: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n20/judith-butler/the-compass-of-mourning

I was if anything more surprised at Micheal Martin saying that "That call by Israel should be rescinded"

this probably not helpful but fucking hell

Here is footage showing moments before and after an Israeli airstrike that hit civilian convoys fleeing Gaza:
Dozens of evacuees reportedly killed.#ForcedDisplacement#DisproportionateAttack#GenocideinGaza
Guardian, 10/14/23, 19.10 BSThttps://t.co/oO2pZYe5oX

— 𝚓𝚎𝚊𝚗𝚗𝚎𝚝𝚝𝚎 𝚜𝚖𝚢𝚝𝚑 🌻 🇪🇺 (@smyth_jeannette) October 14, 2023

War crimes don’t come much easier to prove than that

Palestine Action left a message overnight for the @BBC: spreading the occupation's lies and manufacturing consent for israel's war crimes means that you have Palestinian blood on your hands #ShutBBCDown https://t.co/wjAPXo8GjJ pic.twitter.com/l5xLYXKVeD

— Palestine Action (@Pal_action) October 14, 2023

Thousands are gathering for a pro-Palestinian march in central London.@SkyNewsAdele spoke to one of the protesters who says the "root of this violence is the occupation".

Israel-Hamas war latest ➡️ https://t.co/5HylWXsPOL

📺 Sky 501 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/DZ1hxyrzEL

— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 14, 2023

Seen photos and videos of marches in London, Liverpool, Glasgow, Milan, Montreal.

"Grief Yes - Despair No," by Palestinian artist Abdel Rahman Al Muzain, 1982. pic.twitter.com/7xNV4I94fE

— tabitha 🌞 (@thetolerantweft) October 14, 2023

Interesting thread from an analyst. Picked out this tweet.

The conflict will feed global bigotry, hatred, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, hostility to the US and Europe, etc. It may all be significantly worse than the 9/11 era. 11/X

— Rex Brynen (@RexBrynen) October 14, 2023

Fwiw, Hasan Abi doing a Palestinian medical air fundraiser https://tiltify.com/@hasanabi/palestinian-medical-assistance

US$350k+ raised so far

Multiple Israeli airstrikes on southern Gaza-this is where people were told to seek refuge. https://t.co/qaDjJV1q8w

— Mohammad Alsaafin (@malsaafin) October 15, 2023

I know that raw emotion isn’t helpful right now, but fucking hell

Re: Hasan Abi’s fundraiser: I donated but I’m wondering -and this question might sound stupid- how will the funds or equipment actually get into Gaza (assuming that’s where they’re destined)?

Hoping that external pressure has at least caused the blocking of power food etc to be stopped.
Would be so great if the rest of the world were woken up to conditions in Gaza finally. Maybe far fetched cos they haven't been so far.
Israel will continue to be a nation of victims for indefinite generations not aggressors. Still stuck with the idea you would hope that trauma victims would do something to reduce trauma not channel it onwards. Which may be over positive.

"My grandfather survived Auschwitz, and that is why I fight for a free Palestine."

The words of Talia Baurer from Jewish Voice for Peace, who was one of 57 people arrested at a solidarity demonstration for the people of occupied Gaza in New York City. pic.twitter.com/zNQWtfn9mx

— AJ+ (@ajplus) October 14, 2023

PALESTINIANS IN GAZA ALREADY TRIED THIS! They held peaceful marches to the Israeli fence on the “border” and the IDF responded by FIRING LIVE AMMUNITION AT THEM! They shot THOUSANDS of Palestinians! THIS WAS LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO! https://t.co/1ZCNJkAoqs https://t.co/646krzkhRj

— sam (@halaljew) October 14, 2023

Misspelling Gandhi is a good sign the poster will be an expert in non-violent resistance. Presumably he's also a big fan of Luther Martin King.

The Judith Butler piece in the LRB is getting hammered but I haven't read it.

The stunning lack of urgency in this piece by Judith Butler—published as Gazans flee for their lives—is its own form of moral failure https://t.co/KUt0cF2wEY

— Tobi Haslett (@tobihaslett) October 14, 2023

Butler's an academic so i'm not sure what's expected of them here

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n20/judith-butler/the-compass-of-mourning

I can understand people having issues with the tone and emphases and I do get it - JB does sometimes infuriate me with their constant hedging and nuancing of everything - the piece didn't offend me and has some good points but I'm not in the firing line and those who are can feel however they want about it

Agreed on the tone and emphases but none of the criticism I've seen could be categorized as coming from those in the firing line.

Sheeee a real queeen😮‍💨😮‍💨 pic.twitter.com/f380LneokZ

— free palestine 🇵🇸 (@farah4rk) October 14, 2023

This threads collates demonstrations across the US.

[Thread] Massive pro-Palestine demonstrations across the United States.

The media isn't giving them enough attention, so here is a roundup:

1) Chicago: 15,000 protestors shut down the streets.pic.twitter.com/H7ADbVm0qs

— Alan MacLeod (@AlanRMacLeod) October 15, 2023

A very notable shift in messaging that makes me suspect the intelligence coming out of Gaza indicates things are much worse than the public currently knows https://t.co/zL5TXfzVQN

— steven monacelli is posting 🆓 (@stevanzetti) October 15, 2023

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan tells @jaketapper that his Israeli counterparts informed him in the last hour that they have turned the water pipes back on in southern Gaza.

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) October 15, 2023

https://www.semafor.com/article/10/13/2023/inside-msnbcs-middle-east-conflict

when I got to the diversity and inclusion workshop bit I just

I don't know much about Mehdi Hasan other than he's an Asian Brit who is semi-famous in the US. But his posting on the conflict seems spot on, taking him off air seems ridiculous and quite racist really.

More on the water situation.

I am from Gaza and I am telling you this is a JOKE.

Israel destroyed many water pipes.

Also, without electricity we can NOT turn on the water pumps.

Water in Gaza does not simply run into the taps. We have to fill water tanks about twice a week. https://t.co/yu7iyPsTOc

— Refaat🇵🇸 (@itranslate123) October 15, 2023

I don't know much about Mehdi Hasan other than he's an Asian Brit who is semi-famous in the US. But his posting on the conflict seems spot on, taking him off air seems ridiculous and quite racist really.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino

Medhi Hasan has for some time been MSNBC's most essential on-air person.