Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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https://pod.link/1544487624/episode/22f52bae6270a26d1ca342ef672355ea

Good pod from “What’s Left of Philosophy” about how Effective Altruism is complete horseshit

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:18 (two years ago)

silicon valley straight-up fascism

https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto

https://imgur.com/a/YOxOG2c

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 05:52 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/jQ3Vh7Q.jpeg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 05:53 (two years ago)

...apparently techvangelists don't understand how sharks work....

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 06:28 (two years ago)

“Techno-Optimists believe that societies, like sharks, grow or die.”

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:27 (two years ago)

That’s why every shark you see is either the size of the Empire State Building or dead

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:28 (two years ago)

David Friedman points out that people only do things for other people for three reasons – love, money, or force

what an unsurprisingly reductivist view of things

Love doesn’t scale

???

behold the thump (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:44 (two years ago)

ctrl+f 'climate' - not found (markets will solve it, of course)

behold the thump (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:45 (two years ago)

Who gets more value from a new technology, the single company that makes it, or the millions or billions of people who use it to improve their lives? QED.

Should have gone with "Checkmate, losers" at the end there IMO

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 11:03 (two years ago)

Patron Saints of Techno-Optimism
In lieu of detailed endnotes and citations, read the work of these people, and you too will become a Techno-Optimist.

...

John Galt

, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:47 (two years ago)

that he mentions Nick Land is enough to put this piece firmly in the “fash” camp

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:53 (two years ago)

i don't think you needed to make it all the way down there to draw that conclusion

, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:58 (two years ago)

lot of claims made about their essentialness to society by people who spent the last five years pushing computer money

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:01 (two years ago)

its pretty funny that most of these things are just corporate pr bs that not only pose no risk to tech companies but were in fact invented by them in order to give cover for whatever nasty stuff they were up to

“Our enemies are not bad people—but rather bad ideas,” he wrote in a post published on a16z’s website. “Our present society has been subjected to a mass demoralization campaign for six decades—against technology and against life—under varying names like ‘existential risk’, ‘sustainability’, ‘ESG’, ‘Sustainable Development Goals’, ‘social responsibility’, ‘stakeholder capitalism’, ‘Precautionary Principle’, ‘trust and safety’, ‘tech ethics’, ‘risk management”, ‘de-growth’, ‘the limits of growth’.”

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:06 (two years ago)

"morals" "scruples" "democracy"

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:15 (two years ago)

We believe the techno-capital machine of markets and innovation never ends, but instead spirals continuously upward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqjhHVUzl8o

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:16 (two years ago)

whoda thunk a billionaire would have a life philosophy that puts him at the center of the universe? anyway, tax these people to oblivion and send them to the salt mines.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:36 (two years ago)

Read between the lines: https://bengrosser.com/files/Techno-Optimist-Manifesto-Andreessen-redacted-by-Grosser.pdf [PDF link]

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:15 (two years ago)

seeing more people with e/acc in bios on the few times I click on xitter and I know most of what that is based on prior knowledge but don’t want to know more

there has to be some way to clown these people in a targeted way that they specifically hate, right?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:28 (two years ago)

have we discussed "e/acc" yet? it's like EA + fascism. you're going to love it.

https://effectiveaccelerationism.substack.com/p/repost-effective-accelerationism

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:57 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'd just like to note that i have been otm in this thread

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:32 (two years ago)

yes please let me know how to destroy them without having to read about them. can I just send $20 to a guy? I am very tired

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:04 (two years ago)

I never read much into that because the link reads like it’s a manifesto for the cause and not negative?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:04 (two years ago)

effective accelerationism thats good stuff, rises above the typical hack dystpoia we usually get these days, almost pynchonian

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:16 (two years ago)

Yeah sorry that link is the actual manifesto

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:42 (two years ago)

“xitter” is pronounced like “shitter” right

the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:04 (two years ago)

correct

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:10 (two years ago)

yes please let me know how to destroy them without having to read about them. can I just send $20 to a guy? I am very tired


I think sending $20 to Gaza would upset them.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

against technology and against life:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/ESG_-_ESG_cover.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:06 (two years ago)

We believe the techno-capital machine of markets and innovation never ends, but instead spirals continuously upward.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qvckVPKx-aI/TlR8hjbWdvI/AAAAAAAAAGc/yx1JiWk2rLA/s1600/dialectic+helix.jpg

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 20:46 (two years ago)

I'd love to see Ted Kaczynski's take on this manifesto, but alas - it's too late

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 21:20 (two years ago)

ah very interesting

In the summer of 2021, Insider has learned, Thiel began providing information as a "confidential human source," or CHS, to Johnathan Buma, a Los Angeles-based FBI agent who specializes in investigating political corruption and foreign-influence campaigns.

https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 13:04 (two years ago)

i havent heard that name in a long time

Charles Johnson, a longtime associate of Thiel's and a notorious figure in the far-right movement that Thiel has subsidized for a decade, told Insider in a statement that he helped recruit the billionaire as an informant by introducing him to Buma.

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 13:15 (two years ago)

Thiel was probably pissed that foreign investors were getting the deals he wanted to make and was going to try to rat them out

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

yeah hope we get more details re who exactly he was informing on

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:24 (two years ago)

it will undoubtedly be something incredibly self-serving

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:26 (two years ago)

re: https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10

Peter thiel: I’ve sent you two excel spreadsheet of power rankings of boys’ blood by both efficacy and terroir, race of course plays a large part in this but so of course does their upbringing

FBI handler: (distracted) okay, you sent me this last week

Thiel: this is updated

— Alex Degen (2023) (@atothe_d) October 19, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:52 (two years ago)

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

🧛

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:31 (two years ago)

max otm

https://maxread.substack.com/p/techno-optimism-is-a-sign-of-vc-crisis

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 October 2023 22:10 (two years ago)

Meantime on the good ol' fashioned 'take the old guy for a ride' front

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjeans/2023/10/23/eric-schmidt-michelle-ritter-steel-perlot

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 October 2023 17:15 (two years ago)

SBF about to take the stand!

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/26/business/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-trial

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:00 (two years ago)

Whoops, or not:

And in a twist, there will be no testimony from Bankman-Fried after all today. The jury is being sent home so the lawyers and the judge can hold a hearing as to what Bankman-Fried will be allowed to testify on.

Well, soon enough.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:01 (two years ago)

if he makes this work i’m ready to buy in on crypto for i will have seen evidence of brilliance i cannot understand

BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:28 (two years ago)

hopefully he can explain just the what the hell blockchain actually is

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:31 (two years ago)

considering its built-in requirement for ever-increasing computing power and energy use, blockchain is a scheme to perpetually expand the profits of the chip industry and utilities

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

Ohhhhhh what a read this is:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/26/23934195/sam-bankman-fried-self-testimony-deleted-signal

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 October 2023 01:47 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/XoNePWx.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 27 October 2023 01:59 (two years ago)

clearly SBF never watched Petty Mason

mookieproof, Friday, 27 October 2023 01:59 (two years ago)

“I really enjoyed [Lewis’s] book, by the way! Though the reporting in Going Infinite suggests that Bankman-Fried is an unrestrained sociopath, Lewis’s general attitude toward Bankman-Fried may be best summed up as “I love my gamer son.”

BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 October 2023 04:33 (two years ago)

All the LOLs:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/02/business/sam-bankman-fried-trial

Guilty on all counts.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 November 2023 00:01 (two years ago)


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