Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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his rants about the judge devaluing his properties are irrelevant, the figure isn't a selling price it's what the tax appraisers decide it's value is for their purposes. I don't know fuck all about law but I know a pointless, completely null defense argument when I see one.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:00 (two years ago)

Applause to JiC

blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:52 (two years ago)

the figures they used were absurd but there are a lot of reasons for a gulf between taxable value and likely sale value of a property

most of which, if not nebulous and legally questionable, would mean a swift increase at reassessment

he's basically being marcel duchamp and saying, no, since I signed this urinal it's now a work of art and not the same as a toilet you buy from the supplier

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:53 (two years ago)

do we actually know that the lawyer forgot to do this and that they wanted a jury trial?

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:34 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

in the article it said that youre supposed to submit a form saying whether you want a jury trial or not and they did not submit the form, however the prosecution did submit the form and asked for a bench trial, so yea seems like a oopsie

lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 20:55 (two years ago)

he's basically being marcel duchamp and saying, no, since I signed this urinal it's now a work of art and not the same as a toilet you buy from the supplier

Yeah, but it doesn't work retroactively. His argument was, iirc, even if it wasn't worth a lot *then* it is *now*, but whatever value was added came *after* it was overvalued. And then there's flat-out fuckery like saying Trump Tower had three times as much space as was assessed. I believe there was some reporting that as soon as the overestimation of square footage came out, Trump Inc. stopped lying about it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:05 (two years ago)

always a good strategy at a bench trial - insulting the presiding judge lol

Throughout the day, defense attorneys also took aim at the judge, making testy assertions such as “I don’t think you’re an expert on accounting standards” and “you owe it to the defendants to listen to this evidence.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:19 (two years ago)

but you see, I signed next to the statement that the square footage magically tripled so I made it so

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

do we actually know that the lawyer forgot to do this and that they wanted a jury trial?

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:34 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

in the article it said that youre supposed to submit a form saying whether you want a jury trial or not and they did not submit the form, however the prosecution did submit the form and asked for a bench trial, so yea seems like a oopsie

lol... I've heard it's not even a dedicated form - It's literally a "jury trial" box that wasn't checked on another form!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:49 (two years ago)

A dozen innocent people plus alternates have been spared by this witless gaff

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:52 (two years ago)

EXCLUSIVE: Arizona prosecutors are probing Trumpworld efforts to reverse the results of the 2020 presidential election — years into Joe Biden’s presidencyhttps://t.co/v8en5nUO8b

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) October 3, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:10 (two years ago)

this guy just cant catch a break

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:13 (two years ago)

How can he be a "threat to democracy" when there are thousands of elections all over this country every year and he only tried to steal one of them? A statistically insignificant number!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:22 (two years ago)

he just wanted to steal one election, as a treat

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:24 (two years ago)

He tried to steal the prettiest one

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:27 (two years ago)

lol good stuff

Eric Trump says New York City is dirty.
Also, Eric Trump says his father has done more to shape New York City which he describes as amazing pic.twitter.com/YNJJti1MFp

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 3, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 02:31 (two years ago)

starting to grow Perot ears

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 04:24 (two years ago)

I was about to post a picture of that genetically modified rat with an ear growing out of its back, but it was horrifying, even by the standards of Eric Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 12:07 (two years ago)

one’s a hideous abomination formed by unholy meddling with the natural order, the other is a genetically modified rat etc etc

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

Earic Trump

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

jesus looking old there man

Trump shares bizarre court sketch of him sitting next to Jesus at fraud trial https://t.co/yQ70OstOy1 pic.twitter.com/4hdZ5Eq70c

— New York Post (@nypost) October 3, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

hey man, he packed a lotta livn' in those 33 years

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:22 (two years ago)

forgot to hydrate

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

Jesus looking old and also sinister.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

He never buys any smokes iirc

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

Jesus looks like a guy with some dark secrets

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

unindicted co-conspirator #17 unmasked as yeshua bar yosef during surprise court appearance

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:28 (two years ago)

looks like his death sentence was commuted to 20 years in prison and he paid off the Samaritan gang to shank Judas

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:29 (two years ago)

he came back from the dead to attend a civil trial in New York, that doesn't surprise me a bit

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:29 (two years ago)

he looks like barry gibb

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:37 (two years ago)

Jesus, or Sauron?

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:40 (two years ago)

Jim Caviezel?

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

Jesus famously hung out with fraudsters.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:54 (two years ago)

maybe Our Saviour sides with the prosecution? he works in mysterious ways, after all

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:02 (two years ago)

Trump, on Truth Social, is attacking Judge Engoron's *clerk," — who is literally in the courtroom with him — while calling her "Chuck Schumer's girlfriend" and posting a link to her Instagram account.

I suspect this will be an exhibit in some gag order arguments.

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) October 3, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:03 (two years ago)

Hang on, America!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

(I mean, we’ve all been hanging on for dear life for damn near a decade, just a few more years)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:05 (two years ago)

jfc

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:08 (two years ago)

Can you call back, my son? I'm hanging in court with Trump right now. Even better, just shoot me a text.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

A contempt order would be hilarious.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:11 (two years ago)

"Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you... uh, that guy right there?"

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

the nails in His wrists will set off the courtroom metal detector

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:13 (two years ago)

they seem to be tiptoeing around a gag order in all of the cases because he's a presidential candidate, perhaps when a witness or a court official ends up dead they might think he's gone a bit too far this time!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:15 (two years ago)

can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:19 (two years ago)

nothing will happen because roaches dont die but in *theory* anyway...

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

when is this fucker going to die

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:20 (two years ago)

Jesus is right there. Trump could just go with him.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:23 (two years ago)

"When you saw only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you."

(attempts to lift Trump)

"Fuck, what a gluttonous slob. Why don't you get some steps in yourself, you lazy-ass lump."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:44 (two years ago)

Can't believe this has to keep being said but can we maybe focus on Trump's being a hateful, racist, fraudulent wannabe-dictator and maybe not crack jokes about his weight, as those won't hurt him but might make others feel shit?

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

Yup - it's shit like making fun of people's weight that is the reason we hate Trump.

peace, man, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

Agree that there are lots of other avenues to attack that individual.

I am, however, mildly okay with at least some petty snipes at Trump, because he deals in them. And lo, it is written: thou shalt not disheth it out if thou cannot taketh it.

If he is going to deal in petty appearance-based slights about Liddle Marco or about his rape accusers not being Tens, then one can be forgiven for some of the (admittedly pretty juvenile) slights about the size of his hands or his stupid "hair" or the degeneracy of his diet or his ketchup/well-done steak habit or whatever.

Of course I don't condone any line of attack that makes decent, innocemt people feel hurt. But... Trump has taken the low road so many times that I am not sure we're obliged to take the high road where he is concerned.

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:54 (two years ago)


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