Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Same MSN story:

Engoron also ruled Tuesday on a separate motion by the New York attorney general seeking sanctions against Trump's legal team for repeatedly making arguments Engoron and other courts had already rejected. Engoron ruled in the attorney general's favor, fining five attorneys $7,500 each.

In addition to finding that Trump committed fraud, the judge canceled the certificates of various Trump businesses, appointed a former judge as an independent monitor of the Trump Organization, and will appoint receivers to manage the canceled LLCs.

This is a pretty big deal. https://t.co/0Z4y3lkHTK

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) September 26, 2023

Daaaaaaaaamn

Should be noted that the summary finding of fraud extends to Donald Jr and Eric, too.

The deposition line quoted in the last sentence of this paragraph is pretty telling. https://t.co/bn4wuPb3eC pic.twitter.com/vQYWIreZYt

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 26, 2023

Oh man. The combination of off-the-charts levels of idiocy and chutzpah in that attempt at a defense there is just staggering, even for him

I can't stop re-reading that and giggling in sheer disbelief that anyone would say that to another human being to bolster their argument, let alone to a judge!

value is subjective and he's also said the Saudis would pay whatever fucking price he puts on his real estate portfolio... because it's me!!

They pass for access, I sell them access

He could shoot a Saudi on Fifth Avenue and the Saudi would be honored and grateful

I like the swearing:

Trump will visit a non-union auto shop tomorrow, a fact that was not lost on those outside the Wayne plant.

“That’s where his loyalties lie,” Walter Robinson, a 57-year-old quality inspector, said. “If he wants to be with working people who are struggling, then he would be here. I don’t know who he is playing for – is he playing for working people, or corporations?”

“He has to go to a non-union plant because if he came here, we wouldn’t let him in,” added Hearn. “If he pulled up in his motherfuckin’ motorcade right now, we would not let him in.”

hell yes to all of this, the house of cards is starting to topple

Apparently, and I am a little embarrassed not to have known this, but there have been large numbers of whales beaching themselves lately. A quick Google search turns up various incidents all over the world. There is speculation about the reason(s), including some kind of sonic activity in the water, but as far as I can tell it has fuck all to do with windmills.

It will be amusing to see what Trump comes up with to say to these non-union workers tomorrow. I assume it will be the usual rambling laundry list of grievances that has little to do with the auto industry.

It will mostly be jokes where he says one name when he means another.

i hope he gets to ride in a big truck again

If only that Glock had gone off.

Apparently, and I am a little embarrassed not to have known this, but there have been large numbers of whales beaching themselves lately.

One of those lives in Mar-a-Lago.

got him

heh

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wow think of the property taxes

C-Hutch is coming up on MSNBC with Dullard O'Flannel.

In her defense, she made an OK, well, defense in a clip I saw of her Maddow interview. She basically conceded she drank the Kool-aid in supporting Trump Inc., but pointed out that if she is dismissed and ridiculed after coming forward and admitting her mistakes, then no one is going to come forward. Though no doubt this is still just a preamble to the public speaking / talking head money train, like fellow mea culpa miner Miles Taylor.

are there any praqctical implications of this for the NYS real estate the trump org owns? e.g. are they forced to divest assets in NYS?

praqctical

are there any praqctical implications

i can't imagine that forcing the Trump Organization or its subsidiary LLCs into receivership wouldn't entail divestiture of assets to non-Trump-managed entities. If he tries to recoup his properties via a dummy corporation I'd expect the independent receivers and the court would take a very dim view of the subterfuge.

btw, praqctical is my new favorite word

Praqctice makes perfect

i assumed he could just redomicile the company and continue owning NYS real estate but apparently not?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/nyregion/trump-james-fraud-trial.html

The decision could terminate his control over a flagship commercial property at 40 Wall Street in Lower Manhattan and a family estate in Westchester County. Mr. Trump might also lose control over his other New York properties, including Trump Tower in Midtown Manhattan and his golf club in Westchester.

so his disgorgement fine is going to be at least $250m, lol this is going to be one almighty kick in the bollocks!

"I'm sending you to a jail that I'd say is valued at... 800 million dollars."

5 of Trump's lawyers have been sanctioned by the judge and each got $7.5k fines for persisting with timewasting bad faith defense arguments that had already been dismissed by him.

So what happens when he doesn’t pay?

I assumed he could just redomicile the company and continue owning NYS real estate but apparently not?

Typically LLCs domesticated in another state are required to obtain a certificate of authority to do business in a non-domicile state if they have a sufficient nexus with the non-domicile state. What is sufficient for nexus with a non-domicile state varies slightly from state to state, but typically ownership of property is sufficient for nexus.

Having employees located in a non-domicile state is also a common way nexus is created.

he will appeal until long after his own death. barron will be appealing this case as an old man.

Barron still has time to perfect his scowl.

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What a little darling!

Who's the tall guy on the right?

EW! Is that really him?

You can't escape your genes.

probably has the clap already

Golf clap

Kise cautiously asks:

"Don't take this the wrong way: What in the court's mind does this trial look like?"

Justice Engoron already found Trump liable for fraud on the first count—and granted relief.

"What's the point of the other six [causes of action]?" he asks.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) September 27, 2023

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A useful breakdown from Klasfeld as well:

https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-organization-fraud-lawsuit-ruling-annotated

Hasn’t he suffered enough already now that he lost one legal case no one really cares about

Don’t let’s be beastly to the guy who led a mob to try to violently overthrow the government.

Who are you directing that to?