have you quit the labour party yet?

seumas milm (gyac)
Posted: 26 September 2020 at 14:21:55
Every day a new low.

I despise this party so much I would literally be tempted to vote Tory if I thought it would contribute to their demise. Not that I'd really do it and it would be a futile act, but I think there is some merit in the idea of tactical voting in marginals with trash Labour MPs to reduce their win margin. The last thing you'd want to do is hand these dangers a crushing majority and a limitless mandate for evil.

I used to say I'd rather vote UKIP than vote Liberal, it's getting that way!

https://i.imgur.com/8EKzRmB.png

24/5 for Tories to win most seats
9/1 for Conservative majority

I get the polling lead at the moment but these are too good to pass up

if I had to have a bet on this, I'd take the 11/4 on a hung parliament

The headline lead is big but need to factor in voter distribution

I feel like there are similarities in the UK with Japan's 1955 system but I don't know if the opposition party ever held a lead this big there in the polling

Japan's 1955 system...damn that's a grenade you have thrown in this thread!!

I'm voting for Mishima

I can't think of a more low-stakes GE than Sunak vs Starmer in my memory. Even if the Tories throw up some extreme wedge issue like bringing back the gallows, Starmer will start talking about how he always loved the sound of necks snapping.

Now unlike some of you I've seen the Tory gallows proposal. And it pains me, Mr Speaker, though I must say I am not surprised, that the specifications the government have settled on for their gallows regime are utterly unfit for purpose. The Tories have mode a mockery of public hanging. We can do better. We must do better. The people demand it. Labour demands it. That is why, Mr Speaker, today I am submitting my own designs for a humane, sensible, thoroughly British approach to the execution needs of our country. It is backed by science. It is fully costed. And I call upon this House to see this Tory proposal for what it really is: a shambolic, unworkable system of outdated pulleys and levers that I doubt could even snuff out someone's grandma.

OTM. The guillotine in other words.

I feel like there are similarities in the UK with Japan's 1955 system but I don't know if the opposition party ever held a lead this big there in the polling

"no one" often enough does but that isn't an opposition party. there were similar gigantic opinion poll leads last time an opposition party won government in japan (2009) but they didn't take long to completely collapse in popularity once in government.

i guess the uk will end up there if there isn't some fascist opportunist (in the tories or otherwise) to take advantage of starmer being completely worthless as pm

I meant more if the opposition had significant leads which they then lost, given the LDP winning 21 of 23 elections since 1955, 1993 and 2009 being outliers and short lived ones at that. Couldn't easily find historical polling data

i really doubt it, managing to lose a polling lead like this would be very unusual anyway but if anyone can do it starmer's labour can

a five-year hysteria to label corbyn as a racist and this is what they fucking replaced him with, jesus https://t.co/XHWGVmc5tv

— Gordon / rent controls fan account (@istreasatuatha) September 18, 2023

"I'm very happy to work with The Sun, to write for The Sun, to do interviews for The Sun..."

Ahead of his party's conference in Liverpool, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer explains why he writes for a newspaper that's widely boycotted on Merseyside...@GranadaReports pic.twitter.com/HQ5dNJdWx6

— Andrew Misra (@MisraAndrew) October 5, 2023

all I can ever think of when I hear this guy talking is happy thoughts of someone smashing him in the chin with a lightning uppercut so ferocious that he takes flight for a few seconds.

“Labour [has ] sought to delay the civil trial until after the general election takes place.” https://t.co/vd84Soz5kJ

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 5, 2023

that's almost Trumpian really in it's naked cynicism to gain power to abuse power

I have quit the Labour party (or at least stopped paying my subs more than a year ago) but for some reason I still received this email yesterday (NB I'm not Peter, this guy is just the first person I saw who screenshotted the email) (not pictured but the email also came with a bonus union jack emoji in the subject line)

this is quite simply the most abjectly embarrassing shit i have ever seen pic.twitter.com/bftcnd2smr

— Peter Mitchell (@pdkmitchell) October 8, 2023

Kind of relieved they didn't go with "Luv my country, 8 Islam, end of" as was presumably the first draft

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/09/i-will-never-leave-labour-but-my-new-membership-card-makes-me-uneasy

... there is nothing on God’s green earth that would make me leave. Nothing.

Zoe agrees with ILX.

It's such an insane position to take, like if labour officially decided to become the party of eating children she'd still stay?

I see this kind of resigned attitude amongst lifers for football clubs or bad tv shows, couldn't imagine applying it to a political party.

it's an identity thing, which is understandable if you're always gonna be comfortable enough for it not to matter whether your party of choice does anything other than win the occasional election

They should make her a special membership card that says “I hold no actual convictions I just really like rosettes”

Reeves giving her full support to Rishi"s smoking ban. I'm no great fan of ciggies but thought we were moving away from prohibition of substances, apparently we are not.

Whoever you vote for it's more cops.

Reeves' got the Mark Carney endorsement, well of course he'd approve of a soulless, colourless, dreary, detestable fiscal hawk with a boring monotone voice.

Despite myself I find myself getting pulled in by promises of municipal devolution

does this look like a party comfortable with ceding power from the centre?

On a side note it's a very grim thought but some of these ghouls will be absolutely frantic that the horror in Gaza is taking focus from their conference

does this look like a party comfortable with ceding power from the centre?

yeah this is the part of the night out when everybody's just sat down looking at the menu and anything seems possible. will be a v different story once orders have been placed and people start doing sums in their head

I guess there might be forms of devolved power that allow the leader's office to ensure all Labour mayors or whatever are Stepford Centrists. Maybe this is actually a way of threatening to rein in the dangerous loose cannon Trots like...checks notes...Burnham and Khan

yeah

like yes you can have your libraries and one swimming pool as long as you take our shortlist

hi i just want to get in on the ground floor of the "fake protestor" conspiracy theory

He could have at least poured a bucket of pig's blood over Kieth and denounced him as a fraudulent right-wing scumbag. If he was real then 0/10 ... ohh I want a Citizen's Assembly and PR so we can have more of a chance of the other parties doing the Tory policies.

"If he thinks that bothers me he doesn't know me," says a cool Starmer with glitter on his shirt and jacked off.

Starmer wants power not protest, he says.

— Kevin Maguire (@Kevin_Maguire) October 10, 2023

*makes jacket off motion*

he jacked off at Lab conf? mind that won't be a first.

hearing reports that the video of Kieth jacking off is a deepfake

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lol

The fact that Starmer keeps mentioning the Union shows he's making a concerted effort to steal the Loyalist bigot vote in Scotland from the Tories.

Inevitably keith's arc gonna end with him emulating brass eye's wanking senator

https://media.tenor.com/IYiD-6M6etMAAAAM/dirty-old-man-you-dirty-old-man.gif

Conspiracy theory falls down because Starmer looks like he's shitting himself - over some posh boy with some glitter in his hand.

On a serious note, how the fuck did that guy to the stage without the intervention of hired goons?

Keir Starmer's conference speech "best in 20 years" | Lord Mandleson

"he's passionate ... he demonstrates huge conviction"

Starmer joins the friends of Peter Mandleson with a huge conviction

Conversation at work this morning.

Colleague #1: "I see Keir Starmer got covered in glitter yesterday".
Colleague #2: "Who? Who's that?"

This could guy could still have been a plant, they just didn't tell Starmer cos he's stupid and everyone hates him