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One I saw was set the week of the 1966 world cup final and I peaced out pretty quick

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:15 (two years ago)

"Would you bring Greaves back into the side Morse?" fuck off

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:17 (two years ago)

Morse would refuse to watch because Ramsey wasn't playing wingers.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:25 (two years ago)

2 ("fugue") was abt a serial killer playing fiendish games in codes that only an advanced musical brain could ever crack ("every good boy deserves favour")

i don't mind shaun evans -- very watchable -- but so far i hate his oh-i-just-cracked-this scene and pray it is not going to be a fixture

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

academic misuses "refute" in 1965* -- not very likely but might have happened?
an angry morse not jumping scornfuly on the solecism -- would absolutely not have happened lol

*it's not a synonym for "deny": to refute you must supply the proof

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

oh-i-just-cracked-this scene and pray it is not going to be a fixture

oh no

carson dial, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:43 (two years ago)

(very dislikeable) character mentions the new left review while teasing morse (it's 1966 so ilx's beloved perry anderson is editor) #onethread

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:19 (two years ago)

this is the silliest stuff

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:00 (two years ago)

now watching the world cup ep: it also features chopin and heraldry plus a haunted girls school that's very picnic at hanging rock when it's not harry potter

getting unrelated topics to clash fruitfully is a morsey thing tho i think it fails at this more often than it succeeds and i don't have high hopes for this

mark s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

scooby-doo-ass garbage

mark s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 17:11 (two years ago)

gotta hand it to em, sway was a pretty good ep, maybe it's finding its feet!

(i mean still p silly in some ways, but also quite affecting and the anachronism kept in check for a change)

mark s, Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

(i like the one-word titles btw, that's a nice tic)

mark s, Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

deems said this show got better and in s3 it has, which is nice

is there another drama which wd open with a close-up of a man deploying MOLE TRAPS on a well kept lawn, i think not

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:23 (two years ago)

the mole trap man is in fact lozza's dad :|

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:39 (two years ago)

a hathaway

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:39 (two years ago)

ok that was the silliest story i have ever watched, mole traps or no mole traps

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 19:58 (two years ago)

Do you think Fox's breakdown into whatever he is now was precipitated by expecting to replace Kevin Whateley as the main guy in the franchise and they're all like, lol no, we're gonna do heartbeat morse instead

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:59 (two years ago)

it can't have helped that they included his character's dad as a completely inconsequential walk-on character (who doesn't even get to be a red herring)

mark s, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:30 (two years ago)

history of Loz's life tbf

skin like puff pastry (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

this record is ok but it's no "l'amour"

https://head-records.bandcamp.com/album/beliefs-destroyer

i know, i haven't thought of "l'amour" in about a decade either

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:13 (two years ago)

I bet it's better than this...

https://laurencefox.bandcamp.com/album/a-grief-observed

I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:19 (two years ago)

... OMG I just listened to it!

I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:22 (two years ago)

this is the stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41KgNJ9qGDI

mark s, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:24 (two years ago)

"next time you see my name it'll be on page one!"

things not say say on endeavour

mark s, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

the ep that combines a mary whitehouse-alike with a pink floyd-alike and a gay news-alike* (plus a simon dee-alike) has a moment where morse is harrumphing abt rock criticism

my usual beef: huge surges of anachronism poorly steered thru but lol his actual crit (of a mode of interviewing and writing that didn't really exist yet in 1967) is not inaccurate! though its problems go more to the difficulties of self-taight musicians getting across to non-musicians how music gets collectively put together, than to the brainlessness he prefers to think it (never change lonely grumpy high-culture dude, yr instincts are good but their expressive framework is terrible)

*it compresses the gay news prosecution of 1977 (for blasphemy) into the oz prosecution of 1970 (for obscenity)

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:12 (two years ago)

decriminalisation only took place in 1967; gay news was in fact founded in 1972 and an equivalent would hardly have needed a mary whitehouse-alike to get it shut it down five years earlier

how much does all this matter (besides driving me the actual person watching very bonkers)?

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

sylvestra le touzel is p good as the whitehouse-alike lady tho -- she does the accent as a full thatcher, which is cheeky but nevertheless effective

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:32 (two years ago)

also it gets into the toxicity of LSD *and* the vagaries of copyright law and who wrote what 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:41 (two years ago)

i’ve been watching the original inspector morse series and it’s wild how much pussy this guy gets pic.twitter.com/TAZGIHqpBj

— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) September 24, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 September 2023 06:31 (two years ago)

phil daniels klaxon (thursday's brother)

mark s, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

(also thursday i guess)

mark s, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

chekov's minefeld lol

mark s, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

i have hugely come round on this daft nonsense (endeavour)

(w/its relentless commitment to tackling the most serious historical matter in the goofiest possible anachro-historical context)

mark s, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:14 (two years ago)

the ep set in a public school is kind of a rip of le carre's a murder of quality iirc (which is lol NOT his best book) and the only bits i'm enjoying in are the (v short) exchanges where morse, a copper sneaked in as a suubstitute classics teacher, discusses authors like ovid or suetonius with his pupils. it's not convincing especially, it's just funny

it's the late 60s but here's one of (real) teachers describes a punished child as being "under heavy manners" -- a phrase that entered normie english via rockpaper-chat courtesy a prince far-i album title c. 1977 (and beyind that, according to jonathon green's dictionary of slang, from jamaican political manoeuvring… )

the scriptwriters just have a permanent tin ear for conversation of the exact period they're trying to recreate and as someone who lived through it it is just exhausting

mark s, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:50 (two years ago)

i ended up watching most of an episode on Friday night, mainly because of this thread tickling my inclination - it was the one that ends up with Morse and Friday in Venice toting guns, it was as silly as fuck but it was the good entertainting kind of silly (which is most silly) tbf

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:34 (two years ago)

i mean i have not given up in disgust 🤣 i am carrying on (despite the disgust)

mark s, Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:38 (two years ago)

i never ignored it because of daftness, it was more about not being tonally satisfying, but i'm coming round to the idea of it being v satisfying because of the daftness. like the other serieses

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:39 (two years ago)

the gunplay shd probably get the fuck out tho

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:40 (two years ago)

it's often a complete mess but it can be quite ambitious in unexpected ways (which i like) -- the anachronistic speech stuff grates bcz i am just the age to catch the worst of it somehow but i imagine bothers nearly no one else

mark s, Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:45 (two years ago)

"Paper says soviet tanks in Prague, Morse"

<Morse, sucks teeth> "Pussssy'oles"

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:47 (two years ago)

in the years since Endeavour started that kind of anachronism has been claimed as a feature not bug cf Cheeky Blinkers and its ilk

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:47 (two years ago)

and for better or worse they didn't adopt the "shit 80s indie background music" trope

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:48 (two years ago)

morse shd be listening to adam and the ants the entire time (as shd we all)

mark s, Sunday, 1 October 2023 19:07 (two years ago)

time for the killer to be a thunderbirds puppet

mark s, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

"the pelican man!"

very good and funny scene

mark s, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

"i am a bagman not a yesman!"

morse somewhat shakily referencing the climax of michael clayton to explain why he shd *not* be taken off the case

mark s, Saturday, 7 October 2023 19:49 (two years ago)

endeavour s8 and it's roughly 1972 i believe: i wouldn't expect *everyone's* hair to be long -- it didn't really happen like that -- but it's funny that the one character whose locks are descending faintly collar-wards is the recently widowed chief superintendent bright :)

mark s, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

"it's a rum caper!" (thursday on the craft of acting, which he appears never to have encountered until now)

mark s, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

lol just checking out a character ("lord ormsby-gore") who features in this ep bcz it seemed like vaguely actionable (?) to include a real-named person as potentially a killer (ep not over, no spoilers!) and either way a total dipshit

and the actual real person with rouhgly this name and title at this moment (david ormsby-gore, 5th lord harlech) died in a traffic accident in the village next to the village i grew up in, almost certainly in a near-legendary traffic blackspot which the family (ours not the OGs) had to negotiate on a daily basis

(we weren't involved though, i'd already left home officer)

the younger ormsby-gores were famously all over the rolling stones -- and worse, eric clapton -- at this time (1972) and things didn't go well for them really

mark s, Saturday, 14 October 2023 19:42 (two years ago)

(harlech died in 1985, in case you want a test)

mark s, Saturday, 14 October 2023 19:44 (two years ago)


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