Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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I think they plan to build a utopian city, and this is basically how we get from where we are to THX 1138

https://i.imgur.com/h3ROuWm.png

https://californiaforever.com

because californiauberalles.com was already taken?

Alba, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 08:10 (two years ago)

Reminds me of this amazing podcast - https://www.npr.org/podcasts/890392491/california-city

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 09:49 (two years ago)

xp the writing on that site is killing me. how many times can you write “good paying local jobs” — what a clunky phrase — and conspicuously refer to Travis Air Force Base?

mh, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 11:03 (two years ago)

xp that podcast is wild, thx.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 14:11 (two years ago)

that website looks pretty hastily assembled, I guess they finally needed to go public with all the worry and speculation about that shell company

They tried something similar with nearby Mountain House, back in the 90's... and it's pretty much a bedroom/commuter community now, with people getting up at 5am to drive to the Bay. There really are no jobs there. Now the tech companies are demanding people come back to the office, so this new Fruitopia will likely just end up as another dull commuter suburb

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 16:53 (two years ago)

the ruined sticks of the main street thoroughfare will make an excellent paintball terrain one day

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:04 (two years ago)

warning, malarky alert:

Effective altruism put Bankman-Fried, who lived in a luxury compound in the Bahamas, “on a pedestal, as this Corolla-driving, beanbag-sleeping, earning-to-give monk, which was clearly false”, Kemp said.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/20/sam-bankman-fried-longtermism-effective-altruism-future-fund

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:02 (two years ago)

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 22:34 (two years ago)

According to Reuters, the agency’s major concerns involved the device’s lithium battery, as well the possibility that the implant’s wires might migrate to other parts of the brain. This May, the FDA gave the company approval for human trials.

at least they're not concerned about brain damage, extreme pain, and infection surounding implantation leads and tearing at leads.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 23:48 (two years ago)

I encourage all Musk sycophants to step up for those trials.

beard papa, Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:48 (two years ago)

I think Musk should go first, to prove his confidence in the tech

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:56 (two years ago)

he should go first with the monkeys administering the implants

sknybrg, Thursday, 21 September 2023 22:14 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

have we discussed "e/acc" yet? it's like EA + fascism. you're going to love it.

https://effectiveaccelerationism.substack.com/p/repost-effective-accelerationism

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 12:57 (two years ago)

xp no one tell SBF when Bayes was born

rob, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 13:04 (two years ago)

The same blog post where he criticizes Jane Austen for not letting her female characters have careers

jmm, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 13:24 (two years ago)

ever get the feeling that these guys didn't really balance their intellectual pursuits

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:23 (two years ago)

its funny how mad they are at having been made to read a book in some class once

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:24 (two years ago)

ms fernandez, you want me to decode the text of julius caesar? when i could *be* coding the next app to make a billy i could blow at caesar's? ~fuck u i wont dow hat u tell me~

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

kind of funny to be criticizing influential works and not understanding past settings when your entire altruistic venture is supposedly about doing good things in the future, not today

what could that future landscape look like? beats me, maybe look at how people portrayed the world in writing in the past and compare it to what today is like

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

why do that when you can just print flawless first principles analysis

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:31 (two years ago)

Original post: http://measuringshadowsblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-fetishization-of-old.html?m=1

jmm, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:31 (two years ago)

The problem is much more systemic than plays and violins and laws. Citizen Kane was finally unseated as the best film of all time and bumped to number two--still quite an achievement for an almost unwatchably empty film.

Now I'm curious to hear SBF's take on Jeanne Dielman

jmm, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

what could that future landscape look like?

In the future, everyone will only have one sexbot but it will be configurable with infinite genders

the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:05 (two years ago)

*removes Armie Hammer mask, sits back, waits for avalanche of VC money*

the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:06 (two years ago)

you have two sexbots, and they just mess around with each other

nobody's going to have enough energy to actually engage with their sexbots after all those hours posting

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:16 (two years ago)

kind of funny to be criticizing influential works and not understanding past settings when your entire altruistic venture is supposedly about doing good things in the future, not today

It's axiomatic that this is the most important century, because they're alive in it reasons.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:08 (two years ago)

https://pod.link/1544487624/episode/22f52bae6270a26d1ca342ef672355ea

Good pod from “What’s Left of Philosophy” about how Effective Altruism is complete horseshit

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:18 (two years ago)

silicon valley straight-up fascism

https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto

https://imgur.com/a/YOxOG2c

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 05:52 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/jQ3Vh7Q.jpeg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 05:53 (two years ago)

...apparently techvangelists don't understand how sharks work....

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 06:28 (two years ago)

“Techno-Optimists believe that societies, like sharks, grow or die.”

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:27 (two years ago)

That’s why every shark you see is either the size of the Empire State Building or dead

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:28 (two years ago)

David Friedman points out that people only do things for other people for three reasons – love, money, or force

what an unsurprisingly reductivist view of things

Love doesn’t scale

???

behold the thump (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:44 (two years ago)

ctrl+f 'climate' - not found (markets will solve it, of course)

behold the thump (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 07:45 (two years ago)

Who gets more value from a new technology, the single company that makes it, or the millions or billions of people who use it to improve their lives? QED.

Should have gone with "Checkmate, losers" at the end there IMO

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 11:03 (two years ago)

Patron Saints of Techno-Optimism
In lieu of detailed endnotes and citations, read the work of these people, and you too will become a Techno-Optimist.

...

John Galt

, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:47 (two years ago)

that he mentions Nick Land is enough to put this piece firmly in the “fash” camp

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:53 (two years ago)

i don't think you needed to make it all the way down there to draw that conclusion

, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:58 (two years ago)

lot of claims made about their essentialness to society by people who spent the last five years pushing computer money

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:01 (two years ago)

its pretty funny that most of these things are just corporate pr bs that not only pose no risk to tech companies but were in fact invented by them in order to give cover for whatever nasty stuff they were up to

“Our enemies are not bad people—but rather bad ideas,” he wrote in a post published on a16z’s website. “Our present society has been subjected to a mass demoralization campaign for six decades—against technology and against life—under varying names like ‘existential risk’, ‘sustainability’, ‘ESG’, ‘Sustainable Development Goals’, ‘social responsibility’, ‘stakeholder capitalism’, ‘Precautionary Principle’, ‘trust and safety’, ‘tech ethics’, ‘risk management”, ‘de-growth’, ‘the limits of growth’.”

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:06 (two years ago)

"morals" "scruples" "democracy"

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:15 (two years ago)

We believe the techno-capital machine of markets and innovation never ends, but instead spirals continuously upward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqjhHVUzl8o

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:16 (two years ago)

whoda thunk a billionaire would have a life philosophy that puts him at the center of the universe? anyway, tax these people to oblivion and send them to the salt mines.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:36 (two years ago)

Read between the lines: https://bengrosser.com/files/Techno-Optimist-Manifesto-Andreessen-redacted-by-Grosser.pdf [PDF link]

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:15 (two years ago)

seeing more people with e/acc in bios on the few times I click on xitter and I know most of what that is based on prior knowledge but don’t want to know more

there has to be some way to clown these people in a targeted way that they specifically hate, right?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:28 (two years ago)

have we discussed "e/acc" yet? it's like EA + fascism. you're going to love it.

https://effectiveaccelerationism.substack.com/p/repost-effective-accelerationism

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:57 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'd just like to note that i have been otm in this thread

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:32 (two years ago)

yes please let me know how to destroy them without having to read about them. can I just send $20 to a guy? I am very tired

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:04 (two years ago)

I never read much into that because the link reads like it’s a manifesto for the cause and not negative?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:04 (two years ago)

effective accelerationism thats good stuff, rises above the typical hack dystpoia we usually get these days, almost pynchonian

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:16 (two years ago)


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