Stanley Kubrick RE-poll

Just speculation, but I'm guessing O'Neal was intimidated working with Kubrick, a bit unsure of himself as an actor (his big success to that point was still Love Story), and that that added to his performance. Barry knows he's essentially a fraud.

didn't think of that, but it seems right to me

xxp thanks for sharing your wisdom, but I didn’t say it was a comedy, the film is a vicious satire. Which sneers at its protagonist in the process; Hordern’s voiceover is positively mocking at times. It’s very pretty though, in a way which also mocks the artforms of the time.

you are supposed to hate O’Neal in the same way that the film sneers at him

Fair, that’s the same defense I use re Anna Paquin in Margaret

interesting comparison. idk the narrator dunks on barry a few times and he is repeatedly shown to be a fool & in over his head but imho both films clearly have deep sympathy for their main characters? its weird to me that movies like Lyndon or Margaret show their main characters as flawed humans making poor choices, being shortsighted, selfish, sometimes cowardly, etc, and people take that as evidence that the filmmaker is inviting us to loathe & laugh at them.

Ditto Elizabeth Berkeley in Showgirls

Barry Lyndon is classified as a "classic adventure movie" on Kanopy--reminding me that Kubrick's original choice for the Chevalier was Charles Bronson.

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— Jacob Oller (@JacobOller) September 5, 2023

Hmm.

Right, so parsed that wrong at first, thinking it was saying Mambo No.5 was a big culture war issue. Which, my first reaction was surprise that I hadn't heard about that, but not really surprise at the idea.

Which says a lot abaot society imo

That was my thought too. And, yeah, that is a totally plausible scenario circa 2023

Need to hear King’s thoughts on “It Wasn’t Me” post haste

Also, I suspect Orange is getting harshed on this thread a bit cos ppl are embarrassed at being into it as edgy youths. I do understand the implulse but imo it stands up better than most things I was into at 16

enjoyers of mambo no.5 welcoming ilxors eric h. and bananaman begins into the only fandom that counts:

https://the-take.com/images/uploads/screenprism/_constrain-1080w/178763.jpg

Ha!

We all mambo down here

Apparently the question prior to that one in the tweet was about "Rich Men North of Richmond," about which King only said: "I haven’t heard the song yet, but I’ve seen pictures of him. He’s got a beard and he’s got a cool guitar."

there's a definitive "my life before and after seeing 2001" - so that.

orange is p good, mid-pack, prison section fairly dull, non-mcdowell performances certainly a choice (one choice, by one guy), when i was an edgy teen i thought it was an act of criminal irresponsibility (the worst kind of edgy teen)

i don't know why i said mid-pack; it's still down there actually.

I finally watched The Killing and loved how tight and ugly it was. I've already mentally paired it with Pick-Up on South Street and I'm not entirely sure why as yet.

Also, there is a guy who goes in my local who is so clearly Timothy Carey's doppelganger I'm going to have to ask him if he has seen this film.

Michael Fassbinder was a pretty good robot David, but I feel like he would have been better as David Bowman, mostly because he has a good laconic teeth-grinding expression to wear for most of the movie. Frank Poole: for some reason I'm thinking John C. Reilly.

God, the scene where Timothy Carey tells off the parking lot attendant in THE KILLING is so brutal and heartbreaking

Wait the culture war part wasn’t about “Mambo No. 5”?

Re A Clockwork Orange, the book not the movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-yk2el2b8k

rewatched The Killing and as much as I enjoyed the film it's hamstrung by one of my pet hates - the voiceover

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Suspicions more or less confirmed, held against the prior poll. Also, good job ILX

not sure what you mean about suspicions confirmed, or "held against the prior poll", but there were a lot of votes

my eyes wide shut-heads are once again the most correct

Glad Clockwork got nothing. The Killing and Paths of Glory are, I think, on the short-list of greatest American films of the '50s, but that's just the nature of click-polls that they'd sink to the bottom.

agreed, i grew up in a TCM household and rarely anything caught my attention - it wasn't until seeing films like those that i wanted to go back and revist the era.

I don’t think Paths or Glory or The Killing’s positions would necessarily be that much higher in a ballot-style poll, fwiw. The only sig change would probably be Strangelove moving up a spot or two

Agree on Paths of Glory; it seems to have fallen away over the years. But I think The Killing would finish ahead of Full Metal Jacket, and possibly even ahead of Strangelove in a weighted poll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8_tJ6rVPyM