Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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if Monday is the best day for truth, then i say
let the truth begin

z_tbd, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:09 (two years ago)

As someone who has been following this all pretty casually, I liked this as a comparison of the federal/GA stuff:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/trump-indictments-jack-smith-fani-willis-themes.html

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:10 (two years ago)

i know we already touched on it above or in the other thread, but i really hopes he comes out to announce the report standing to another 5 foot high staged pile of blank pieces of paper

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:11 (two years ago)

Somewhere somebody is assembling that

...great health care plan

...kraken

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:13 (two years ago)

Are there any betting pools set up for people to wager on what he will actually say/do on Monday?

henry s, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

i bet $15 he will say something that will later be used as evidence in one of the four different cases

i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:18 (two years ago)

uhhhh you'd have to give me massive odds on that

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:19 (two years ago)

see, that's the part about betting that i hate

i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

he's gonna say something really dumb.

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

https://y.yarn.co/a0a16a2b-c302-4101-9fd9-a77efaf2487e_text.gif

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:27 (two years ago)

I am just curious about what excuse he uses for not making his exonerating report public.

henry s, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:32 (two years ago)

Ran out of printer ink.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:35 (two years ago)

The national Quinnipiac University poll showed 54 percent of Americans said Trump should be face federal criminal charges, while 42 percent said he should not be prosecuted for those alleged crimes.

Independent voters, notably, said they support prosecuting Trump for the alleged federal crimes in question by a margin of 20 points: 57 percent said they support and 37 percent said they do not.

this last bit is pretty notable, since it was Independents that really delivered him in 2016

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:35 (two years ago)

That’s not you win an election

tobo73, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:36 (two years ago)

they don't make elections anymore like with Ronald Reagan in them

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:53 (two years ago)

when you got elections like ronald reagan in them, you can't lose

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:26 (two years ago)

frogbs at 11:53 16 Aug 23

when that call came out with the Georgia Secretary of State I remember a number of Twitter legal guys going "this is really bad, you don't wanna do this anywhere but especially not in Georgia" for reasons I can't really recall right now
My understanding is that the RICO law in Georgia is unusually expansive, making it easier to prosecute there than elsewhere.

jaymc, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 22:42 (two years ago)

Aw

BREAKING: Former Pres. Trump's promised press conference to refute the allegations in the indictment handed up by the Fulton County DA's Office is now very much in doubt, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell @ABC News. https://t.co/IlLLZYrqht

— ABC News (@ABC) August 17, 2023

Anyway, these assholes are always so full of shit. I keep seeing clips of Republican dickweeds saying shit like "we have 10x the evidence of Biden's corruption than they have of even made-up Trump evidence," or "we are this close to getting rid of the Deep State" or exonerating Trump or whatever bullshit. But they never produce the evidence. Because of course there is none, or it's the same invented, refuted bullshit presented in a different order.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:30 (two years ago)

not enough monkeys to work the typewriters

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

how dare they take this from us?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:39 (two years ago)

It's another version of Q, in a way — the promised revelation, always just out of reach.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:44 (two years ago)

the conspiracy theory fantasy sphere is wild stuff, kaleidoscopic amusement

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:47 (two years ago)

Anyway, these assholes are always so full of shit. I keep seeing clips of Republican dickweeds saying shit like "we have 10x the evidence of Biden's corruption than they have of even made-up Trump evidence," or "we are this close to getting rid of the Deep State" or exonerating Trump or whatever bullshit. But they never produce the evidence. Because of course there is none, or it's the same invented, refuted bullshit presented in a different order.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:30 (twenty-one minutes ago) link

Using the successful formula of social media clickbait (big juicy dramatic headlines based on something flimsy or misconstrued) to keep supporters hooked and confuse general consensus through the magic of relentless "well I thought I heard" surface level perception manipulation.

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

It's effective too, at least with sympathetic audiences. A whole lot of people who only get information from right-wing media now firmly believe that there is strong irrefutable proof of the Biden Crime Family's misdeeds, and that the lack of prosecution for it is entirely a function of the Deep State.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:26 (two years ago)

If you ask them what the evidence is, they'll just say things like, "It's everywhere! You can look it up!" And if you knock down any given talking point, they just cycle to another.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

After all this time, all they really have is an email that mentions "the big guy."

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

if someone told me they were gonna take down the biden crime family id just be like ok thats fine

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:43 (two years ago)

Yeah, that's what the GOP doesn't seem to understand about the left--we don't have a cult-like attachment to people like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc.

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

xpost Yeah, it's like, just show me the (dirty) money.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:47 (two years ago)

we don't have a cult-like attachment to people like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc.

No, it's more like they have a remora-like attachment to us.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:57 (two years ago)

remember in his first year he made this big show of doing the "fake news awards" and it just turned out to be some badly formatted HTML page

i'd bet anything this is the same deal, Trump just said it and expected his folks to make it happen, except now all his folks are probably indicted too so they can't

frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:01 (two years ago)

"We've incriminated ourselves enough!"

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:07 (two years ago)

xp lol i love this explanation the most

juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

“when we finally got indictments to defend, we could not because well… here we all are.”

juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:11 (two years ago)

This has always been his MO, from the USFL to his NFT "trading cards."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

does Colton Moore saying he's gonna impeach Fani Willis amount to anything or nah

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

as much as me saying "I declare Bankruptcy"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:38 (two years ago)

He wrote "We, the undersigned" and then signed it alone.

BTW, the Georgia legislature is not in session, and will not be until January.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:40 (two years ago)

i think a more fair $15 bet is whether or not trump will say "no, YOU'RE out of order" to a judge at some point

i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

expectations are the enemy of satisfaction TM

juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:03 (two years ago)

Everything I've read is that he's not particularly bold in the courtroom - 'crumpled and dispirited' is more like it

he's only likes the courts when he's suing someone

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:05 (two years ago)

In the call, Ms Shry allegedly told the judge, who is overseeing an election conspiracy case against Mr Trump: "You are in our sights, we want to kill you."

Prosecutors say Ms Shry added: "If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you."

This woman is probably just a harmless crazy, but this last line probably rings true for many Trump stans - he'd BETTER win or else, democracy be damned

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:07 (two years ago)

The specimen is mostly deflated but somehow even gassier than usual.

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:09 (two years ago)

I dunno these choads can’t stop getting convicted for threatening judges and congressmen by phone there may not be anyone left to carry out the killing in 2024.

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:30 (two years ago)

You’d think, but our system is great at churning out choads to replenish the ranks

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:39 (two years ago)

I mean these folks have been shown plenty of times within the last 7 years that they're more than willing to act out their violent fantasies so good luck USA

frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:11 (two years ago)

the promised revelation, always just out of reach.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra)

The Crying of Don, 77

the pinefox, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

Not gonna recommend watching 40 minutes of Morning Joe, but polls are not looking good for our boy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMfqXbaMrk

read-only (unperson), Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:21 (two years ago)

fake polls

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:31 (two years ago)

honestly no clue how this is gonna shake out, my cynical side says Republican voters are gonna rally around him anyway cuz that's what they always do but the amount of mental gymnastics these people are gonna have to do in 2024 is outright insane. not really sure how you come back from 95 felony charges

frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:53 (two years ago)


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