Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

I am not a lawyer, but I imagine it's rare for many people to plead guilty right off the bat.

Far and away, the usual course is to take a deal to plead to a lesser offense.

according to paperwork signed on camera.

erm, in camera innit?

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, August 14, 2023 6:43 PM

"In camera" means out of the view of the press and public. So this is a rare case when "on camera" is correct.

Anyway, yay indictments

I hope the press conference is being held at a landscaping company

Jesus, Trump is a whiny little bitch.

at a press conference in Bedminster, N.J.

"have you seen the condition of ivana's grave? are you responsible for that?" *points* "it's just over there, everyone check this shit out, it's wild!"

don't think I've ever heard "in camera" before

Yeah, it means in chambers.

Which is a fancy term for the judge's office.

the judges office is a camera? taking a picture of society... much to think about

The judge's eye is an all-seeing camera.

fucking christ how deep does this go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiUiKjH2IWE

http://www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/incamera.jpg

In ancient Mexico, judges met in an Aztec Camera

The losing side had offer themselves up for human sacrifice after paying the winner's attorney fees.

(at the risk of coming off like a dick)
"camera" just means "room" - the original "camera obscura" was a dark room with a pinhole which allowed the image of a scene to be thrown on a canvas hung on the opposite wall upside down, so the proportions and perspective could be traced directly; then they used a lens to improve the pinhole image, then some clever chemist figured how to use a photosensitive plate instead of a canvas, and then they became portable cameras.
(oh no the risk was too great)

whatever professor

there used to be a coo camera obscura out by the beach in San Francisco, no idea if it's still there

“A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” he said.

“Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others — There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election,” Trump continued. “They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!”

is that final word some kind of dog whistle?

when is the fucking gag order already FFS

It sounds like some old Roy Cohn advice: "double-down, dig your heels in, and just keep repeating the talking points over and over" and I don't think that's gonna fly here

And when all else fails, just make shit up.

Shit the Bedminster

I don't think that's gonna fly here

He's in so deep that there's no other path he can pursue except to continue to feed his base the same brazen lies. He'll keep it up even after he's convicted and hope that the sheer weight of numbers in his cult somehow shields him from any consequences. He'd MUCH rather start a violent civil war than admit he did anything wrong.

I suppose we got the government we deserved.

w/r/t that, I'm definitely in the "the mask finally came off" camp, this is America's id unleashed at last

and it has been the reality for lots of ppl for a long time

Yeah sleeve, when I think of American history I see plenty of id.

"when is the fucking gag order already FFS"

he's not going to abide by any gag order

We're finally getting the kraken!

Why do I think that this irrefutable and exonerating report will consist of nothing but that US map that shows how much more red than blue there is, plus maybe another aerial shot of his "record-setting" inaugural crowd?

Don't discount the Sharpie.

there used to be a coo camera obscura out by the beach in San Francisco, no idea if it's still there

there's a very cool one in Havana, everyone should go check that one out

Shit the Bedminster

massive lol, thanks YMP

I live to serve.

Trump looks like he’s giving Laura Loomer a side quest to rescue his frog son from the pond. pic.twitter.com/AidC5NItC7

— Jesse Brenneman (@Jesse_Brenneman) August 15, 2023

Literal LOL

Trump is really letting himself go. Yes, Don, go ahead and eat that third Quarter Pounder.

my god his hands

When he sits around the jail
He sits Around the jail!

for the record it's an AI/Photoshop expansion of the upper left quadrant image, you can see the glitch-out a little to the right of the scoreboard

Yeah apparently so. Even the original photo is pretty lol tho.

The “full” photo is fake. Possibly an AI expansion of the smaller true photo. Note the weird sharp point at the right of Trump’s waist. pic.twitter.com/G8N4M6bTTv

— Jeffrey Pinyan is reading AND writing (@JeffPinyan) August 16, 2023

Fine. The original photo is 1% less hideous.

so here was my dumb evening with loony Trumpers.

my bestie asked if I wanted to go to this local wine bar for a Jackbox night/karaoke, I said sure, sounds fun. we get there and there's like...nobody there other than the employees and one other customer. there's no karaoke, only Jackbox, but at the front, after we ordered our drinks, we noticed like....FIVE bottles of Trump wine sitting at the front, positioned like bowling pins as a centerpiece. Fuck. We had zero idea of any of that fuckery before we went.

we'd driven like 30+ minutes to get there at that point and were kinda doing the 'sunken cost' thing at that point, since we'd traveled so far and already paid for our drinks. we hoped maybe other customers who weren't looney would show.

Nope. It was us three customers and the staff only. So we're playing Jackbox and these are the least imaginative, unfunny people on the planet, every Quiplash response is some dumb sex reference that was awkwardly shoehorned in. half the time these boomers couldn't figure out technology, loudly narrating their technical issues as if there was some mustachioed, polo-shirt wearing IT guy in the room listening to them. None of them understood how any of the games worked, mostly because they talked loudly through the instructions (the one other customer sounded and acted like Victoria Jackson and spoke at a volume 30 times as loud as everyone else).

But fortunately we had avoided politics, other than one dumb "Bidenomics" reference by one of the slightly-less stupid ones in the room. but then one of the games gets temporarily delayed as one of the employees had to take care of something and my friend had to use the bathroom, so they all start chatting, and then the wheels come off. the faux-Victoria Jackson starts talking about how she still drinks Budweiser, that she didn't care about the controversy no matter how much she 'disagreed' with them, and then she and the owner of the bar start recounting times they threatened to have customers thrown in jail for minor, petty theft, and the owner talked about how she started physically wailing on the customer (a thing that I'm sure totally happened as she described it).

my friend was still in the bathroom, and then the owner starts trying to talk to me and I know it won't be good, and she starts asking me if I'd heard of some former director of ICE or whatever, and I'm like obviously looking around uncomfortably for my friend, and she starts saying how he's this guy that fights human trafficking (oh dear god, probably an Operation Underground Railroad guy) and how they had recently attempted to host him at the wine bar for a speaking engagement, and how they had all of these adoring fans of Mr Human Traffic Warrior show up, and that he had a heart attack shortly after getting out of his limousine, ruining the engagement.

so basically this is MAGA Wine, and I msged my friend COME BACK PLEASE, THESE PEOPLE ARE INSANE! we both decided we'd wrap it up fairly quickly after that and then peaced to get dinner somewhere less crazy and never go back.

the person they hosted was Thomas Homan and it HAPPENED LAST NIGHT

So you’re saying they helped give this guy a heart attack.

Giuliani is really sharting it. I saw a legal expert saying he's in the deepest shit and his nervous protestations that RICO isn't meant for cases like this is way off the mark, cos Fani Willis has successfully used it precisely in cases like this. lol I guess he might have discovered this himself by now.

i couldnt decide if the tone police would cheer or dud willis’s tone at her indictment presentation (and haven’t looked to see) but i’ll clap and i loved the now i’m going to get some sleep finale. coulda mike-dropped and peaced after that

The discussion about Trump’s “fleets” is amazing. In sum:

Judge: WTF are fleets?

Twitter lawyer: No idea (!) just heard about them today

Special counsel: WTF are fleets?! But also, you better give us all of Donald Trump’s fleets.https://t.co/vdhI6YrskP pic.twitter.com/8oXs1wVPBw

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 16, 2023

https://bluesrockreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/controversialgretavanfleet.jpg

quick q that may have a complicated a:

why don't other states prosecute trump for doing what he did in georgia? for example, pennsylvania? does it come down

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/16/trump-georgia-phone-call/

https://i.imgur.com/T4Q9Chv.png

Within days of losing the vote in Pennsylvania, Trump and his allies allegedly began pressing officials there to change that outcome by backing a slate of pro-Trump electors. The indictment points to seven calls Trump’s team made to state GOP lawmakers in late November to discuss the effort.

Rudy Giuliani, then Trump’s personal lawyer, aggressively pursued state Rep. Bryan Cutler (R), then the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, leaving him four voice mails in four days, according to the indictment. Sometimes Giuliani was joined by Jenna Ellis, another member of Trump’s legal team. Giuliani and Ellis also called Jake Corman, then the Republican president pro tempore of the state Senate. Trump called Corman separately, according to the indictment.

https://i.imgur.com/HQET58H.png

From Nov. 22, 2020, to Jan. 4, 2021, Trump and two allies each called the Arizona House speaker.

Giuliani

Trump, Giuliani and John Eastman

pressured Rusty Bowers to support

their elector scheme in Arizona.

Trump

Bowers

3 calls

Eastman

Arizona was the site of some of the earliest and largest “stop the steal” protests in the days after the election. It was also where, according to the indictment, then-state House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) rebuffed attempts by Trump and his team to reverse Biden’s win in the state.

In a call with Bowers, Trump and Giuliani raised false claims about voter fraud in the state, the indictment says, and asked if he would support their effort to appoint alternate electors from Arizona. In a second call about a month later, Trump again allegedly brought up the elector scheme. Bowers pushed back, according to the indictment, telling Trump, “I voted for you. I worked for you. I campaigned for you. I just won’t do anything illegal for you.”

Still, Trump’s team continued to hound him. Days before the Capitol riot, lawyer John Eastman, an architect of the brazen legal strategy to keep Trump in office, called Bowers about appointing alternate electors, according to the indictment. Bowers again refused, saying it would violate his oath of office.

i guess since some of the calls referenced in the GA indictment were made to PA lawmakers, it's sort of covered already? it's just odd to me that he was very clearly interfering with the PA election and no one there seems to have done anything about it