Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Has the jury considered that it was a perfect phone call?

Could Trump be denied bail in Georgia? Their laws on these things are somewhat more...Southern than those of the courts in which he's previously been indicted.

Weissmann: let me give you the exact words because this is the provision that the court has to find to release someone on bail in Georgia which is that the defendant poses no risk of intimidating witnesses, or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice. pic.twitter.com/UbAxKZTGN7

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 14, 2023

Supposedly the courthouse usually closes at 5pm sharp, but reportedly the grand jury is still in session.

From a quarter-hour back via NYT

Judge McBurney appears again in the courtroom and tells reporters, “You didn’t go get dinner, you should have gotten dinner.” (No argument here.) Then he turns to two deputies in the courtroom and says, “There’s really only one other thing that’s going to happen today.” Asked if that means that an indictment is coming tonight, he cryptically says: “I guess you’ll have to wait and see.”

Could Trump be denied bail in Georgia?

First question in my mind would be whether the prosecutor specifically asks the court for denial of bail, which would take levels of chutzpah rarely observed in nature. Only then would I consider the exact wording of GA law.

Please no Georgia spoilers!

Geoff Duncan, after testifying to grand jury: "If we want to win an election in 2024, it's gonna have to be somebody other than Donald Trump."

Following his testimony to the grand jury, former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan (R) said he thinks it’s time for the Republicans to “pivot” away from Donald Trump to win. Follow along for live updates. https://t.co/QhBIB8d4kO pic.twitter.com/Pew4xi4Gij

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 14, 2023

The sort of things Republicans say when they are former office holders who are not currently running for office and have written a book about moving the GOP beyond Trump.

also, if we want to lose elections, we need to pivot away from Donald Trump

bad news for joe biden

I just watched that Duncan clip, he does not mince words

He has all the motivations he obviously has, but he is also speaking with the benefit of knowing what he got asked at the grand jury. Not that it's much of a mystery, obv.

'worse candidate than Hershel Walker' lol

rude

Former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan (R) woke up one morning to discover his political party had transformed itself into a giant cockroach. He had no explanation for this metamorphosis.

Of course he can't help reciting the economy-porous border-etc GOP sound bite. Still a party guy.

ten indictments

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CNN:

Fulton County court clerk Che Alexander confirmed to reporters congregated in her office that there are 10 indictments from the grand jury on Monday night. She would not say who was indicted.

The grand jury's certification, handled in the clerk's office, also indicates that it approved 10 indictments on Monday, according to paperwork signed on camera.

TV cameras captured Judge Robert McBurney signing documents in his courtroom after they were handled in the clerk's office, but the images of the paperwork were captured before the judge gave his signature.

The paperwork indicates the grand jury didn't vote against any of the indictments presented to it on Monday. The paperwork also doesn't list any defendant names.

Before indictments were handed up by the grand jury, Alexander told reporters that it could take her office as long as three hours to process any indictments before they are unsealed and made available to the public.

according to paperwork signed on camera.

erm, in camera innit?

grammar policing is classism FYI

so you think I'm a classy guy? thx

Some talk/clarification that not all of those 10 indictments handed down today were necessarily about the Trump stuff.

give me
one more 'dict
cos I can't wait forever

curious if they got any other big names in this. like idk Lindsey Graham :)

BREAKING: Donald Trump has been charged in Fulton County along with:

-JEFF CLARK
-MIKE ROMAN
-DAVIND SHAFER

THE CHARGES AGAINST TRUMP: pic.twitter.com/OcUqGTI4r4

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 15, 2023

So, "13 felony charges against Trump, including RICO, conspiracy to commit forgery, filing false documents, Solicitation of Violation of Oath by Public Officer and more."

Buncha other names here, too:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23909543-23sc188947-criminal-indictment

Rudy, Eastman, Chesebro, Meadows, Jenna Ellis ...

Rico, whoah ohh whoah oh whoah ohh

They got the whole gang! Just the thought of all of those idiots lawyering up against each other is delightful.

Reportedly 30 unindicted co-conspirators.

Sidney Powell charged too

Per NYT and of course

Trump is already sending fundraising emails about the indictment.

The Fulton Co. GA District Attorney's Office should set up a GoFundMe account. I'd be willing to help defray their expenses in pursuit of this nationally important case to the tune of, oh, at least $100 or thereabouts.

amazing all that dumb bullshit he was saying when calling into OAN is listed on the indictment

Well, there you go: a RICO conviction in GA imposes a mandatory 5 year sentence not subject to probation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73GefWWmSBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_f3kJOX_8

currently singing "Lido Shuffle" to the tune of "RICO Shuffle"

Once the flames begin to catch
The wind will blow it higher

Oh RICO, RICO, because RICO
Oh RICO, RICO, because RICO
...
The man is dead

just a reminder the first Republican debate is in 9 days and even though Trump says he's not doing it you know he can't resist

Trump probably couldn't make a RICO UNSUAVE reference.

I like the way that ILX posters often respond to events with good-natured puns involving old rock song lyrics, even when I often don't know the songs (and I don't know what RICO means here either).

you need to start following some US youtube true crime accounts to complete your education!

one thing I have learned is that Epshteyn is pronounced the same way as Epstein.

They got the whole gang! Just the thought of all of those idiots lawyering up against each other is delightful.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, August 14, 2023 10:04 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

❤️

Christmas all year! And all next year! And probably the year after that, and …

amusing word-choice in the (first) giuliani section of the wikipedia article on the RICO act: "The Gambino crime family boss Paul Castellano evaded conviction when he and his underboss, Thomas Bilotti, were murdered on the streets of Midtown Manhattan on December 16, 1985"

*fingers crossed* obviously