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According to network insiders, the CW has not officially canceled Veronica Mars. However, they are currently considering a different format for the fourth season. That format would leap four years into the future and focus on Veronica Mars as an FBI agent. The rest of the cast, aside from Kristen Bell, is yet to be determined.

So bottom line: Veronica Mars could be: 1) spinning off into a new format, 2) returning in her college years or 3) getting canceled

― Melissa W, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

whoa crazy!

― horseshoe, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

ok except and then veronica's agency turns out to be a fake agency that's really evil and then like there's a real agency too and it turns out that who's running it but her *father* and also logan except she doesn't know if he's a double agent or not and meanwhile she's in the evil agency still but really starts reporting to the good one?

that would be awesome, for like a season or two. then they could have a new concept!

― s.clover, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

The rest of the cast, aside from Kristen Bell, is yet to be determined.

No Enrico Colantoni, no remote chance in hell.

― J, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Enrico as her local PD liaison and Wallace could be her roommate and all would be well with the world.

― milo z, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

But that means they'd have to kill Wallace at the end of season 2, only to bring him back as in evil clone.

― Leee, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that's interesting. I felt like the show was a lot better in the last three episodes, but I doubt that they would have been able to do a good fourth season in college.

― clotpoll, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

At least that would solve the age problem.

― Simon H., Monday, 19 March 2007 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've finally caught up w/ the show. Sad to read that the rest of the season will be standalone episodes not involving a final arc.

Most likely I'm just naive, but it always seems like they never actually drop clues or hints or implications as to who the "culprit" of an arc is until the final episode (Aaron Echolls, Beaver Casablancas, Tim Whats-his-face, etc.). Am I mistaken? Someone please prove me wrong.

― Stevie D, Sunday, 1 April 2007 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

teh culprit is always sorta a jerk?

― s.clover, Sunday, 1 April 2007 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

There do seem to be clues, but there are always clues for loads of other people too. And a lot of the clues for the real culprit seem to be circumstantial and you wouldn't guess anything from them.

― V, Sunday, 1 April 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Was last night any good?

― Leee, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

was last night about Muslims and terrorism? because I have never seen a TV drama do that without infuriating me, so if so, I will avoid the episode.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Last night was 'meh', but it had almost all the main actors, so I enjoyed it. The muslim/terrorist thing was ham-fisted, tho, and whilst i don't give a rat's ass about veronica and piz, the ending was pretty good.

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Last night was good on several levels:

A) Veronica's excellent Samuel L. Jackson impression;
B) Mack's surprising-yet-appropriate couch encounter;
C) A very realistic, I think, interaction between Keith and Veronica in re: the latter's "harmless" hobby
D) Seeds sown for tension in Neptune's sheriff's office, good noir stuff
E) Dick's open fly in the elevator ("classic party tactic")
F) Great ending

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

The muslim/terrorist thing was ham-fisted, tho, and whilst i don't give a rat's ass about veronica and piz, the ending was pretty good.

If only for the look on Logan Echolls face!

― Nicole, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

word up, that guy does 'wounded' like cary grant did 'debonair'

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

The "that Muslim guy's a dick - let's deport him" part seemed kinda heavy-handed.

― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Have they officially cancelled VM yet or are they still pretending there'll be another season?

― milo z, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

why do you care milo

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Curious. I think I'm ten episodes behind now, guess I should wait for the DVD.

― milo z, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I am going to pretend the show ended after the last episode, because this one was so crappy I almost cried. So much bad acting, and the theme of it all, and the dialogue, and... Jesus, Rob Thomas, what did you DO! It's turned into a bad after-school special.

And then I probably love this show more than most, I've stood by it through highs and lows, but this... was just... I give up.

― Hanna, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

GREAT, MORE FOR ME!

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, have you seen other television shows? Their dialogue, scenarios, acting, filming, and general and specific plotlines are just about all worse than "Veronica Mars." There's no point loving a show's past so much that you cannot stand to watch it anymore -- it's free entertainment, and even if it is one billion million kazillion times worse than it was back in the golden halcyon days of its past (what, like seasons one and two were perfect all the way through and never had stupid stuff in them? uh, NO), it's still a really good show.

But you have a right to your opinion. I just don't see the need for all the DAMMIT ROB THOMAS I UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT TELEVISION AND THIS SHOW THAN YOU DO, YOU BASTARD handwringing.

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

it's still a really good show.

Up through the first storyline of this season, it really wasn't.

― milo z, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand your timeline, milo, or what you're saying. But I'm pretty sure I disagree. Veronica couldn't stay in high school forever you know.

xpost:
I'm sorry if that seemed personal, Hanna, it's not meant to be. I have issues, and I'm kind of a dick.

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'll go back to not-posting now so y'all can go back to hating.

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Matt! Stay where you are! You're absolutely OTM.

The sense of entitlement when it comes to nerds and TV is what's underpinning this divide, and the disenfranchisement of certain segments of the show's audience is manifested by pooping in threads to spoil them/the show for other people who still dig. God knows how I tried the same in <i>Lost</i> threads in the past, but c'mon, I eventually took my poo-slinging to other venues where nobody hears me complain.

Last I watched, this was still one of the best shows on the telly, however it relates to past seasons.

― Leee, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, the shows you love the most are the ones you get you the most disappointed and emotional, right? That's all part of fandom. I just thought it was so silly, this past ep, that scene where V fell in slow motion, the righteousness and morale of the storylines, blah blah teens drinking, jews and arabs can be friends, it was all so simplified and non-reflective. I kind of expect the next one to be about teen pregnancy, and the one after that about bullying. But I'll keep watching, I still have love for VM.

― Hanna, Thursday, 3 May 2007 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

Okay that's fair enough methinks. I just tend to focus on the stuff I like rather than the stuff I hate, and the heavy-handed stuff falls away. By the way, nowhere did it say that Jews and Arabs can be friends -- only that they can have sex. The father was shown to be pretty damn intolerant!

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 3 May 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Having actually watched the last episode...

that scene where V fell in slow motion

Yeah, I got a case of the not-in-a-good-way loffles; it was really something I'd expect from Heroes or somesuch.
And while the A-plot was really stupid and unnecessary, Matt's right: If you rilly love the show fer shure, then you focus on the positive, like the bday party teen melodrama. Mac and Max squee!!

Also, I love Dick. As long as the show features Dick, this boy will have a gay old time. Mm, Dick.

Piz can still suck it though.

― Leee, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the slo-mo was actually making gentle fun of other TV shows and the way they handle things; guess I was wrong.

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

this is now the worst television programme I watch

― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

<i>The father was shown to be pretty damn intolerant!</i>

you didn't watch the programme, did you, Dimension 5ive?

― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't press Convert Simple HTML to BBcode, did I?

― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

no, but you DID conveniently ignore the part where the father was like "YOU MUST NOT SLEEP WITH OR MARRY A JEW", which is not exactly tolerance, and this ambiguity is maybe why I don't think it was all as heavy-handed as all that

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

did you see the bit, the very next day, where he told his wife that they should meet the jew? that bit was just after the bit where he'd met the kid who had vandalised their restaurant twice. after that bit, there was the bit where he decided not to call the cops on the kid (after the bit where the kid shut the door on them without apologising or anything). there was also the bit where he was "pissed off" about the iraq war flyers but said that they weren't illegal and that it was the guy's right to hand them out.

sounds more ridiculously tolerant than intolerant

― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

and what about the part where he called immigration on the dude for handing out the flyers? and what about the part where I didn't really care about the actual 'mystery' of the episode at all because I'm more into the dialogue and the characters I actually know? and what about...um...okay so I never said it was the greatest episode of all time. still though, did you want him to go all 'ay yi yi yi' and execute his daughter in the public square? he's iraqi-american, not talibani; iraqis who have been in the u.s. for a long time are probably some of the most pro-u.s. patriotic dudes in history, probably shah-affiliated, etc.

oh why do i bother, i sound like a jerk.

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

ugh I definitely need to not see this episode.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Dimension 5ive, was that really in response to me?

― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know, anymore.

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

You're not the one sounding like a jerk, believe me.

― Leee, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

according to what I just read, the creator was allowed to shoot a pilot for a new version of the show that goes ahead a few years and has veronica working for the FBI (as speculated above), but whether that is finished and whether or not the CW has decided to pick that up next year, I don' tknow. I think the word is that if they don't, the show is dead.

gilmore girls isn't coming back either.

― akm, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

wait i want to know who is the one sounding like a jerk

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

No roffles over Piz's internship with "the most prestigious music writers on the planet"?

I think wrapping up the Kendall Casablancas storyline is probably the best chance this show has to go out more bang than whimper.

― goth casual, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I believe it was "the most highly regarded music publication on the internet," but yeah, roffles. I'm kind of amazed that CW is still on the fence about renewing this show, it's not like they have much else going for them, might as well stick with something that has a small but loyal audience.

― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

oh I was roffling all right

― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

[i]iI'm just trying to bait melissa into posting more.[/img]

lol otm

― wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

"It's like I'm in the porn version of Groundhog Day."

Mac's admission that "love makes me lazy" but then choosing to be lazy albeit with scruples that will eventually become stumbling blocks in themselves rang true to me. Lots of great relationship stuff in this ep actually, characters making different subtle little choices about commitment that played well against each's history. I can't imagine the show being as detailed or interesting in its peripheral characters if they continue it at the FBI. Actually I can't imagine an FBI VM at all, have there been any FBI shows since the X-Files?

― goth casual, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Say my name and I appear (usually).

― Melissa W, Thursday, 17 May 2007 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

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