theres some stuff where hes trying to take his experience selling things and apply it to a business that sells ads, just very arrogant refusing to learn and so forth, hes clearly kinda lost his marbles
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 02:53 (ten months ago) link
He’s throwing darts blind hoping to make Twxttxr not a boondoggle.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 02:53 (ten months ago) link
one thing about people is we refuse to acknowledge when weve got a good thing going and instead keep looking for a good thing
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 02:56 (ten months ago) link
also worth mentioning that he very publicly made it clear that he did not want to buy Twitter like two weeks after he put in the offer
― frogbs, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:00 (ten months ago) link
Which proves he’s good at business
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:04 (ten months ago) link
its true that the biggest mistake was offering to buy the company in the first place
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:06 (ten months ago) link
sometimes you stay up all night and get a little weird and you make a $44 bil 420 joke
― Clay, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:08 (ten months ago) link
weve all been there
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:09 (ten months ago) link
im honestly having a genuinely negative reaction to the x logo i dont like it i miss the bird
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:13 (ten months ago) link
(its live on the web btw but not the app)
the bird was actually a good logo, there was nothing wrong with it that i could see
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:14 (ten months ago) link
it was a nice bird it didnt deserve this
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:15 (ten months ago) link
Others have pointed this out, but this renaming is stepping on the exact same rake that got him ousted by PayPal. Wrote about this in my book pic.twitter.com/4yn2KffsHl— Max Chafkin (@chafkin) July 24, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:25 (ten months ago) link
The bird was a good logo and was also emblematic of a company that however imperfectly thought a lot about design — not just how the site looked, but how smoothly it functioned. I personally hated the whole "tweet" thing at the start, just too fkn cute, but I was won over by how easy it was to use and find interesting people saying interesting things. Musk obviously doesn't care about any of that, the X is a negative logo, crossing out the old one in the crudest way possible.
I don't think there's any great plan driving any of it, I think he really thought running a social media company was going to be easy and he's been flustered by how often he's just splashing around cluelessly. But also I do think he came in with a lot of contempt for the site and the company and the people it had variously empowered. So via whatever path, I think he did instinctively want to disempower a lot of those people (scientists, feminists, LGBTQ, the woke mob) — which he would be doing regardless of how well his overall management scheme was going.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 04:10 (ten months ago) link
hey look, Belgian/French bank Dexiahttps://www.french.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Dexia-Credit-Local.jpghttps://www.french.org/banks/dexia-credit-local/
― StanM, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 04:51 (ten months ago) link
i don't know why but this X thing has annoyed me more than most of this lackwit's recent fuckery
― Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 05:15 (ten months ago) link
The bird was called Larry. Have some respect everyone and call him by his name.
― Alba, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 05:54 (ten months ago) link
it's pretty incredible that he's doing this - throwing away the one advantage twitter has over rivals, eg its incumbency and brand recognition - at the exact moment his competitors have launched their own versions
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 06:12 (ten months ago) link
I mean even Google and Facebook kept thier names when they changed their umbrella corps. (though I do wonder if zuck did want to change FB to be called meta at some point and got shot down by his board?)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 07:11 (ten months ago) link
We can focus on Musk wanting to pull out two weeks after the offer but let's not forget how the previous owners were desperate to get out of running it.
Long term this app was fucked by the fact that posting doesn't make money. Just that instead of collapsing and the lights being switched off one day it's just happening in an extremely annoying way for a lot of ppl (not me I am happily using it still)
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 07:14 (ten months ago) link
The X at the top but the button on my phone still has the bird. The tweet button has still that light blue/white combination of the old logo.
Very funny how nothing being done well is our future.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 07:17 (ten months ago) link
I'm not sure it's more complicated than "he used the site a lot, and he thought that gave him insight into how it worked" - almost any web developer will have horror stories in that vein. Sometimes the old tales hold the wisdom - this is the car that Homer built.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 09:47 (ten months ago) link
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 10:32 (ten months ago) link
If Twitter fails it's 100% Musk's fault basically. It was never going to be a fountain of cash but it would have limped along.
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 10:35 (ten months ago) link
xp - I don't buy this "it was too much of a good offer not to take". A lot of Silicon Valley philosophy is incoherent but there seems to me to be a 'we have higher goals here' than just money.
Don't think they were ever going to repay the investment in it.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:06 (ten months ago) link
i mean it was too much of a good offer to turn down from the pov of their legally binding fiduciary duty to the shareholders, and it was an even better offer once tech stocks started tanking
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:31 (ten months ago) link
SV doesn’t have higher goals, any of the lofty shit that these chicklehead asshats say is absolute bullshit covering for their robber baron dreams.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:34 (ten months ago) link
lag00n is right, twitter was not a founder-controlled company at the time musk made the offer, they were a public company and their board had fiduciary duties to their shareholders - they had to take the offer or they would have been sued by their own shareholders
― 龜, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:48 (ten months ago) link
xp i think?
One p.o.v. on this, is that this is just another iteration of the spectacular tech flameout at the level of the WeWork guy, anything involving AOL/Time-Warner, Carly Fiorina at HP, all of Yahoo. The whole "the plan can never fail, it can only be failed" doctrine that powers these cults. I was around for multiple dotcom incinerations so something like the first several seasons of Silicon Valley are a documentary. Eventually they'll just acting that way.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:52 (ten months ago) link
Ok. Reckon they could've gotten out of it if they wanted to.
Re: higher goals. To me that's marketing but a lot of those ppl are strange.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:55 (ten months ago) link
prediction calling it X won’t catch on and everyone will just keep calling it twitter and in a couple weeks musk will block or algorithmically suppress tweets containing the word “twitter”
― flopson, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 12:07 (ten months ago) link
i mean maybe, but the question is why would they want to get out of it? jack wasn't ceo anymore, the board only cares about maximizing value for shareholders, the business was getting worse... xp
― 龜, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 12:14 (ten months ago) link
The new logo makes this site feel like a bum strip club in Providence, Rhode Island.— ༘ (@beefytopdog) July 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 12:15 (ten months ago) link
It‘s a new subgenre of posting already.
gonna be honest this new widget design looks like an app for a membership only human trafficking gentlemen’s club headquartered in Budapest pic.twitter.com/HNND7QGYTn— Qanon Latifah (@ch1w33th3d0g) July 23, 2023
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:02 (ten months ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:04 (ten months ago) link
The bird was called Larry. Have some respect everyone and call him by his name.― Alba, Tuesday, July 25, 2023 bookmarkflaglinkit's pretty incredible that he's doing this - throwing away the one advantage twitter has over rivals, eg its incumbency and brand recognition - at the exact moment his competitors have launched their own versions― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, July 25, 2023
― Alba, Tuesday, July 25, 2023 bookmarkflaglink
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, July 25, 2023
Two excellent posts!
Had never heard of "Larry" before.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link
xpostIt is patently clear that Musk is incompetent. He has also become socialized in the right wing echo chamber where they are still desperately clinging to the notion that the public actually has a silent majority of fervent Nazi sympathizers, they just need a coherent outlet for a new 21st century tech-friendly fascism. He probably does legitimately believe there’s a solid customer base for this nonsense — and frankly the way Reddit has captured so much of random online culture as it is literally taken over by the alt-right indicates there may be something to that. However it’s also possible that some of these notions are being fed to Musk by more clear-thinking members of the 88 club, or yes even by those with some actual experience at destroying open and democratic media. It really does seem like a concerted effort to take down good faith public discourse, whether that’s wisdom Musk accidentally received from the detritus of decades of attacks on the ‘liberal media’, or whether it’s more directly targeted, is a conundrum. I will say Musk like Trump seems to me an almost ideal mark for psychological manipulation, if some agents of anti-democratic interests were so inclined.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:14 (ten months ago) link
they should go back to the original logohttps://logo.com/image-cdn/images/kts928pd/production/5c1ecc6182f13c7c81092956161eca68c3fcab3e-3840x2160.png?w=1080&q=72
― jaymc, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:15 (ten months ago) link
Piklr
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:20 (ten months ago) link
just setting up my x the everything app
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:44 (ten months ago) link
It is patently clear that Musk is incompetent. He has also become socialized in the right wing echo chamber where they are still desperately clinging to the notion that the public actually has a silent majority of fervent Nazi sympathizers, they just need a coherent outlet for a new 21st century tech-friendly fascism. He probably does legitimately believe there’s a solid customer base for this nonsense — and frankly the way Reddit has captured so much of random online culture as it is literally taken over by the alt-right indicates there may be something to that. However it’s also possible that some of these notions are being fed to Musk by more clear-thinking members of the 88 club, or yes even by those with some actual experience at destroying open and democratic media. It really does seem like a concerted effort to take down good faith public discourse, whether that’s wisdom Musk accidentally received from the detritus of decades of attacks on the ‘liberal media’, or whether it’s more directly targeted, is a conundrum. I will say Musk like Trump seems to me an almost ideal mark for psychological manipulation, if some agents of anti-democratic interests were so inclined.
However it’s also possible that some of these notions are being fed to Musk by more clear-thinking members of the 88 club, or yes even by those with some actual experience at destroying open and democratic media. It really does seem like a concerted effort to take down good faith public discourse, whether that’s wisdom Musk accidentally received from the detritus of decades of attacks on the ‘liberal media’, or whether it’s more directly targeted, is a conundrum. I will say Musk like Trump seems to me an almost ideal mark for psychological manipulation, if some agents of anti-democratic interests were so inclined.
pretty booming post - worth remembering that the general public doesn't have to be rah-rah nazis for nazis to win, they just need to be easily led.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:49 (ten months ago) link
There were many other designs and even other names, with Twitter beating out alternatives like "twitch" and "smssy"! Two of the runner-up designs had the tagline "an Odeo thing" directly under the name, but the final design didn't include any association with the parent company.
From: https://logo.com/blog/twitter-logo
Smssy ftw
― Alba, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:54 (ten months ago) link
we couldve had smssy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:56 (ten months ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/SassymagCover.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:58 (ten months ago) link
Cute Bot Alert!
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 13:59 (ten months ago) link
understanding the daddy love-hate vibe *flips sassy open to that article*
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 14:21 (ten months ago) link
https://archive.org/details/sassy-4-92/page/60/mode/2up
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 14:24 (ten months ago) link
tweets should now be called "kisses" and retweets should be "hugs"xoxoxoxo
― Look closely, that is all. (doo dah), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 14:39 (ten months ago) link
likes should be called tugs
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 14:42 (ten months ago) link
Now I want a smssy logo t-shirt
― jmm, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 15:00 (ten months ago) link