A Thread about the film JFK

Just a quiet chat between gentlemen.

The most audacious film to be produced by a Hollywood studio in the last 50 years. Robertson’s cinematography is astounding, as is the editing.

Producer/financier/former Israeli weapons smuggler Arnon Milchan is currently knee-deep in Netanyahu’s corruption trial. I remember once boarding an airplane, probably not too long after this film came out, and noticed a man in the first row who was flanked by two Dobermans he had purchased the adjoining seats for. My father leaned over and told me it was Milchan

We're going back into the case. The murder of the President.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jfk-assassination-witness-breaks-silence-142858952.html

The Warren Commission decided that one of the bullets fired that day struck the president from behind, exited from the front of his throat and continued on to hit Connally, somehow managing to injure his back, chest, wrist and thigh. It seemed incredible that a single bullet could do all that, so skeptics called it the magic bullet theory.

Investigators came to that conclusion partly because the bullet was found on a stretcher believed to have held Connally at Parkland Memorial Hospital, so they assumed it had exited his body during efforts to save his life. But Landis, who was never interviewed by the Warren Commission, said that is not what happened.

In fact, he said, he was the one who found the bullet — and he found it not in the hospital near Connally but in the presidential limousine lodged in the back of the seat behind where Kennedy was sitting.

When he spotted the bullet after the motorcade arrived at the hospital, he said he grabbed it to thwart souvenir hunters. Then, for reasons that still seem fuzzy even to him, he said he entered the hospital and placed it next to Kennedy on the president’s stretcher, assuming it could somehow help doctors figure out what happened. At some point, he now guesses, the stretchers must have been pushed together, and the bullet was shaken from one to another.

“There was nobody there to secure the scene, and that was a big, big bother to me,” Landis said. “All the agents that were there were focused on the president.” A crowd was gathering. “This was all going on so quickly. And I was just afraid that — it was a piece of evidence, that I realized right away. Very important. And I didn’t want it to disappear or get lost. So it was, ‘Paul, you’ve got to make a decision,’ and I grabbed it.’”

Landis theorizes that the bullet struck Kennedy in the back but for some reason was undercharged and did not penetrate deeply, therefore popping back out before the president’s body was removed from the limousine.

~deep exhale, pinches bridge of nose~

see that’s the thing with this whole bag of cats now: the explanations are always somehow even dumber than the crackpot theories

Stop eatin' that crab meat, VegGrrl, and listen!

"it's my belief that the bullet was already embedded in the backseat of the car when Kennedy got in, and when he sat back it was pushed into him. i heard him say ow, what's that?"

dammit liz i've been sleepin for three sixty years!

lmao

I'm in my 40's, so I'll have shuffled off this mortal coil by then. But I'm telling my eight-year-old son to keep himself physically fit, so that one glorious September morning, in 2023...

never in the history of warfare has there been a bullet this ridiculous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5YOiaBq3KI

(2m 37s in that clip)

Coming soon to 4K UHD from Shout Select

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According to the site:

RUN-TIME
205 / 188 min

So here’s hoping we are getting the theatrical version in 4K

Camelot in smithereens!

I don't think John Williams is given enough credit for this film's score. It's traditional American epic by way of Morricone's score for The Thing. It really gives a sinister, eerie undercurrent to so many of the scenes. It's off-kilter, and elsewhere when he engages in some patriotic marching band motifs, it morphs into a horror score (like the opening assassination scene.)

Fuck yeah!

i missed the 4K announcement somehow. Lord, wake me. I must be dreaming.

Unfortunately, that set's theatrical release is only BR, not 4K, but honestly, that's still better than I'd hoped for given Stone's preference for the idiotic director's cut.

I haven't seen this film since it came out. I've gone down the Dave Emory rabbit hole, I feel like I should rewatch this and also watch JFK Revisited.

the director's cut really is pointless, all of the additional conspiracy backstory stuff feels so blatantly extraneous, and i actually think unlike a lot of DCs where there's gold mixed in with runtime padding, there's absolutely zero added value to the film from any of it.

I dunno.

We got back from touring a distillery this afternoon and I was in the office restroom, standing in the common space buckling my belt, stifling the urge to go, "Mr. Garrison! Mr. Garrison! I have something for you!"

Like the directors cut, your encounter could’ve been a half hour shorter

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/friend-secret-cia-agent-think-190000508.html

this theory is LIT

^^ the woman who's the subject of that book would be fascinating regardless of any connections to the JFK assassination, but her admission that she was in Dallas that day and flew out immediately after the assassination is hugely implicating!

holy shit! yeah i love this one

jerrie cobb is legit incredible even without this, can confirm
(also any fans of For All Mankind tv show she was the basis for Molly Cobb’s character)

babushka lady all set to fly oswald INTO SPACE

^^my take

The Texas theater (theater they arrested Oswald) has an absolutely amazing itinerary for JFK assassination 60th anniversary. pic.twitter.com/LDmCwV2sCj

— pugmane 🦃 🐾 🐛 🥫 (@pugmane) November 19, 2023

I think the only way to read the warren report is a hallucinatory late-night session

Her book even builds a convincing case for Jerrie being a CIA agent with the cryptonym QJWIN, whose role was to recruit killers for an assassination squad that originally targeted Congolese prime minister Patrice Lumumba.

She is anxious to point out, though, that hers is not a “case closed” type of book, saying: “Books that claim to have those answers are probably not as credible as books that present the evidence and let people decide.”

I have decided this is insane, but amazing.

Babushka Lady sort of fucked up really, getting caught on camera dressed up all like a CIA op in a tan trench coat, calmly stood on the grassy knoll - while all other bystanders had hit the deck!

I was thinking about all this shit yesterday as I finally finished off The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins.

one of the best books table has recommended

I hope you like squab!

How was your mousse?

“Frankie!”

don’t you— don’t you think THIS has something to do with THAT?

i promise [grits teeth] i'll make more time for jasper

My life is fucked, Liz! And yours is, too!

in fact, i admired president kennedy. a man of true panache. wife with impeccable taste. [brief cut to liz at ruined brunch]

Christopher Wallace 🐊
@Wallace_Chris12
DeSantis is our generations JFK
He’s

- A family man
- Faithful to his wife
- Young gun who brings energy to the party

I see no reason why we shouldn’t nominate DeSantis

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Ask not if my party can bring the young gun with the energy...

The only reason to get him on Elm is you got him in a triangulated crossfire. You put a team there down at the fence. Frontal shot. Flat, low trajectory. Put a third team down in this building on a low floor. When Kennedy gets in the kill zone, it's a turkey shoot.

That's a Texas Live Oak, boss. It sheds its leaves the first week of March.

I'm not with the Agency, Mr. Garrison,
and I assume if you've come this
far, what I have to say interests
you. But I'm not going to name names,
or tell you who or what I represent.
Except to say - you're close, you're
closer than you think...

Please don't make me watch it

― xyzzzz__, Monday, July 24, 2023 9:06 AM (ten months ago) bookmarkflaglink

well?

now doesn't this seem to you a rather strange place for a communist to spend his spare time?

In 1961, right after the Bay of Pigs--very few people know this--I participated in drawing up National Security Action Memos 55, 56, 57. These are documents classified top secret. In them, Kennedy told Gen. Lemnitzer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that from here on, the Joint Chiefs would be wholly responsible for all covert paramilitary action in peacetime. This ended the reign of the CIA. Splintered it into 1,000 pieces, as JFK promised he would. And now he was ordering the military to help him do it. Unprecedented! I can't tell you the shock waves this sent along the corridors of power. This and the firing of Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell, and Gen. Charles Cabell. All were sacred cows in intel since World War II.

One hell of a performance delivering all of that so naturally, so *knowingly*

Or the shrug with which he delivers the line, "I knew Allen Dulles very well, I used to debrief him..."

This specific stretch, as John Williams’ score swells, gets me every time:

Now this is significant, because it
is standard operating procedure,
especially in a known hostile city
like Dallas, to supplement the Secret
Service. Even if we had not allowed
the bubbletop to be removed from the
limousine, we'd've put at least 100
to 200 agents on the sidewalks,
without question! There'd already
been several attempts on de Gaulle's
life in France. Only a month before
in Dallas UN Ambassador Adlai
Stevenson had been spit on and hit.
We'd have arrived days ahead of time,
studied the route, checked all the
buildings...
We never would've allowed all those
wide-open empty windows overlooking
Dealey... never... We would have
had our own snipers covering the
area. The moment a window went up
they'd have been on the radio. We
would've been watching the crowds -
packages, rolled up newspapers, a
coat over an arm, never would have
let a man open an umbrella along the
way - Never would've allowed that
limousine to slow down to 10 miles
per hour, much less take that unusual
curve at Houston and Elm.