Rolling Obituary Thread 2023

Too brown.

Trevor Francis, the one million pound footballer

:-O

jesus

what, again?

If he was that heavy, no wonder he died a couple times.

CaAL was making a Jesus joke

I can confirm that I was, yes.
Different understandings of the word "pound" are also a rich seam of humour though.

he relegated my club once when he was Brum manager. It goes with the job I guess but because of his coldly indifferent nay almost sadistic post-match comments, after what was a very unlucky series of results that took us down. I hope all million pounds of that bastard is getting toasted!

I kick soccer ball

Richard Barancik, 98, last member of the Allied Monuments, Fine Arts and Archives Section tasked with recovering looted art back from the Nazis at the end of WWII.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/22/world/europe/richard-barancik-dead.html

Doris Monteiro, actress & MPB singer, as reported on her Instagram account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lZ-EwwhhaE

Sinead O'Connor?!

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2023/07/26/sinead-oconnor-acclaimed-dublin-singer-dies-aged-56/

Yes. Fuck this.

Damn way too early

Oh fuck, how horrible.

AWFUL

Oh no

Heartbreaking. She had such a tough life, and the last several years in particular ...

this is an extremely bullshit thing to happen imo!

So sad. Emblematic in so many ways.

Fuck OFF

feels like I had some friends see her live, on tour, not all that long ago

this is terrible news, I feel like the world owed her a lot more joy

Just heard this on the news, my heart sank even though I wasn't especially a fan of her music.

Ditto.

Personal selfish note: Glad I am not going out for acoustic music tonight because I REALLY don't want to hear middle-aged white guys with acoustic guitars sing "Nothing Compares."

In contrast, I had a gig on my birthday on the day Tina Turner died; we got the entire bar to sing "What's Love Got to Do With It" and "Proud Mary."

oh god that's horrible news

man, so sad

I'm just reading now about her son also. :(

wtf, was not ready for this

Documentary was amazing. She put up with a LOT of shit. Total hero and ahead of her time. Was hated by practically the entire world. Except Kris Kristopherson. The story of them at Bob Dylan's bday party is amazing.

nononono

fuck this completely

On Channel 4 News just now, Matt Frei is such a dick.

Shit, this is terrible news. And fuck people who should have known better (yes including you, Melody Maker) for mocking her back in the day.

I was already a fan of I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got (too young to have heard the debut), but the disgusting fallout from the SNL incident in '92--does anyone remember Joe Pesci eliciting applause on the show the following week by threatening to punch her out?--put me forever in her corner. RIP.

Having been a Catholic kid at the time I don't recall any effort in the media to contextualize it or take it seriously as a protest against child abuse in the church. To superstitious Catholics she was perceived totally as a bald, Satanic bitch and the media was more than happy to take their lead, as she had already been outspoken on numerous things before that.

rip
xp
yeah ch4 news was a disgrace, first question put to dave fanning was " do we know how she died?"

Joe Pesci, what a little poisonous reactionery gimp he turned out to be.

RIP

I didn't know, or had forgotten, about Madonna's reaction to the incident.

terribly sad news about Sinead O'Connor.

Madonna's response was true cowardice/self-serving spotlight theft imo

Madonna was ignorant and it was an appalling response & she also tone-policed like the good little soldier of patriarchy she is, but I’ll stick to hating Sinatra and Pesci more.

Joe Pesci threatened to smack her in an “S.N.L.” monologue, and later, on that same stage, Madonna mocked her in a gently condescending fashion, play-scowling and ripping up a photograph of the tabloid-star sex offender Joey Buttafuoco. O’Connor was condemned by the Anti-Defamation League and a group called the National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations, which hired a steamroller to crush hundreds of her albums outside of her record company’s headquarters. The Washington Times named her “the face of pure hatred” and Frank Sinatra called her “one stupid broad.”

Greatest generation

think that Madonna's response hurt her a lot more than decline phase Sinatra or Pesci, tbh, i think the latter pair couldn't be expected to understand it at all or say anything bright when they did open their yaps. Read a couple interviews where Sinead indicated as such re: Madonna. Good for Kristofferson, of course.

Not sure why Madonna would understand it any better. None of these people did.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_O4gHXgAQmT6O?format=jpg&name=large

Did Madonna speak of the incident elsewhere? I always took her SNL parody as a purely "Look at me!" move, borne out of irritation for Sinead having scooped her moment during the launch of Erotica and Sex, though perhaps no less ignorant or appalling for all of that. The Sinatra and Pesci responses where closer to the tone that I recall permeating at the time: basically a feeling of relief over temporarily being granted blanket approval to publicly threaten a "difficult" woman with violence.

Yep that’s a better way of summing up my own reaction to it.

for way too long into a supposedly more enlightened age she had to suffer thru even more forward-thinking music sites like pitchfork reviewing her albums by referencing her with words like trainwreck, mess, meltdowns, embarrassing, etc. she was one of the few telling people the truth back then, the early '90s were full of such political rot even in music, and she really did the right thing.

just watched the last few episodes of 30 Rock and they featured Tony Bennett singing and someone ripping up a photo of Sinead

the pope photo rip is an all time amazing moment and it came at a time in the US when that shit was much less likely to be accepted by the general public (as it is, it still would generate controversy even today, but anti-religious messages have a bit more acceptance now. this was a time where she knew she'd have just about nobody on her side afterwards and she did it anyway like a badass).