Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

And that LD crossover episode is about to hit Paramount+ in a little over ninety minutes!

wait what

No lie!

https://gizmodo.com/sdcc-2023-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-crossover-stream-1850665365

Just announced at ComicCon.

:D

I'm not enthusiastic about the musical episode. I think it might be too cutesy.

Tsk!

Anyway that said: new episode is indeed very Boimleriffic

Didn't really dig the last episode - Kirk seemed superfluous and are they going to blow up an entire refinery with zero evidence these interdimensional beings actually exist? Will the fact that Starfleet was accidentally committing genocide ever come up again? I dunno, come up with some neat plot point where your communications officer manages to break through and communicate with them in a way other people are aware of so Starfleet knows they're real.

this crossover w Lower Decks was hilarious & i loved it soooooooooo freaking much

Yeah I was bugged by the last episode as well.

- they show up to a nebula and we pan across to see a giant space-vacuum theyve built that they blithely say is for mining Deuterium.
- my first thought is "we'd have a problem with this on earth, why's it ok to go to a pristine star birth spot and just suck the life out of it?
- "funny you say that, I bet some alien life protests at them" says my bf
- nek minnit...
- On Uhura's insistence, they immediately evacute a staff of presumably dozens/hundreds, and blow the whole thing up.
- (incidentally, why wasnt that an issue all of its own, re damage to the space babies)
- this is a space mining operation that wouldve cost billions and taken god knows how long to build, and they just rock up, blow it up because Uhura decided space babies said so, and Pike is all *shrug* "well we can always build one somewhere else!"

Even for "solve it in one episode" Trek, this was just too much imo. Where was the proof aside from her speculation? In any other scenario she'd have been committed, not believed.

But! I should say that it was sweet to see Hemmer again even if only for a moment. I miss that guy.

yeah i loved that aspect too Trayce

yeah the plot was absolutely by-the-numbers trek that's been done many times before. but i liked that even as a(n) uhura episode, it kinda got everyone involved -- i mean having two minutes of spock and chappell playing 3d chess is much better than waiting however many episodes until it pops up again in a huge way

james t. just hanging out as if he didn't have duties on the farragut was silly, but you gotta do what you gotta do. and it was cool that his First Ever Meetings (In This Timeline) with all these ppl were pretty low-key

also james t. knew perfectly well that sam was waiting for him to say 'i'm proud of you too' but didn't because he's kind of a dick. which is, i think, otm

Grandmaster Kirk callback was a nice touch.

was always bs tho

the kirk brothers stare off was v funny

BUT YOU GUYS NEED WATCH THE NEE CROSSOVER EPISODE ITS ALREADY UP AAAAAAGHHH IM DYING OVER HERE

*NEW

Very de-aged Bill Hader

Easter egg breakdown of the episode here. Koalas!

I just want to dial back a bit and say I did enjoy that last episode! There was a lot important about it for one thing (Spock meeting Kirk, Kirk meeting Pike, etc). I felt a bit curmudgeonly after reading back my post.

The intro convinced me I don’t need to give Below Decks another shot. I can’t deal with that tone.

BOOOO

I just want to dial back a bit and say I did enjoy that last episode! There was a lot important about it for one thing (Spock meeting Kirk, Kirk meeting Pike, etc). I felt a bit curmudgeonly after reading back my post.

Nah, you're right though. I remember there was a TNG episode where they got trapped in some field of two-dimensional creatures that nobody could communicate with except in some odd way (I could look it up, I guess, but eh) and even there they at least explained what was going on. Of course, that was because the writers were excited that they had come up with two-dimensional creatures and were showing off a bit, I'd say.

My only thinking on it is that we've all seen the effects before of unseen entities or weird gases that cause people to run amok and wreck their own starships, and maybe Pike is a bit more willing to act without the reams of proof that would also require more people on the ship to lose their minds. Either he blows it up in an orderly way, or the creatures are going to find a way to get SOMEONE to blow it up without the evacuation, etc.
And I guess if it's on the edge of Gorn space, you can't just leave it sitting there if you're not using it?

I may be overthinking this.

it was cool that his First Ever Meetings (In This Timeline) with all these ppl were pretty low-key

I'm such an old softie that this nearly made me cry. They did it very well. Husband was laughing at me saying "I have been, and always shall be, your friend."

OMG the crossover episode was awesome, and I havent even watched all that much of Lower Decks.

This one was good enough that I feel I should give Lower Decks another shot. I bailed after a few episodes -- it seemed too Rick and Morty.

I got halfway through that Lower Decks recap before my eyes started to glaze over and I stopped before the ending

So what did they do? They wrote an episode of animated Trek with dialogue consisting entirely of previous episode titles?

New episode was the weakest of the season for reasons already mentioned but still not-bad

Love Carol Kane and her character but less is more I think

spock's smile reminded me of the ugly sonic smile in the rescue rangers movie. i cracked up every time.

Ha yeah that was quite a terrifying rictus grin.

"Did you notice everyone speaks so slowly? And quietly!" made me lol.

i thought it balanced the tone really well with some pretty good & quite moving in-series character moments ie

- Boimler & Chapel’s scene in the turbolift where she realizes her effect on Spock will not be permanent, but also simultaneously
that she even HAS an effect at all that people would notice is difficult for her

- Pike’s scene in his quarters w Mariner & Boimler talking around his fate and how he carries that weight, Boimler trying to help him be more open to his crew’s appreciatiion of him in the moment

Ditto Mariner and Uhura's scene in her quarters!

Also spotted that the Orion leader guy is the guy who voices/plays Joseph Seed in Far Cry.

Crossover was great! Holy Q, how I miss Lower Decks.

The thing with LD is that underneath its edgelordy veneer, it's probably one of the most reverent modern Trek series.

sooo much nerdy stuff in it! we’ve been revisiting the Star Trek Animated Series and there’s heaps of references

Crossover was cute, but only underlined how I much I value the starchiness of live-action Trek as a decorous escape from animated banter

LD is like having the absolutely nerdiest people in the (galaxy) make a show because they Love Star Trek so much. like half the episode resolutions are 'we're starfleet, and starfleet intrinsically rules, so of course we can solve this!' it's cool

and i like that! but not so much the crossing over. i don't care how famous the SNW crew is, no one has that kind of insight into their 120yo heroes and i hate it.

it's absurd and awkward and i know it's an LD thing but i hate it. ensign boimler took it upon himself to tell spock to cool it? boimler/mariner trying to *comfort* pike about his doom? gtfo

it was funny, as would anything with a jack ryan scream be, but it wasn't ideal

ah well

did appreciate ransom big-upping his irl wife tho

but only underlined how I much I value the starchiness of live-action Trek as a decorous escape from animated banter

Yes, agreed. I like Lower Decks, but it's really the only one of the US animated shows I can stand anymore. They're too loud and I'm too old. Bloody kids, etc.

no one has that kind of insight into their 120yo heroes and i hate it.

This reminded me of Babylon, which I just watched the other night, and how the central sadness of that film is that all those 1920s silent stars thought they would live forever in celluloid and their exploits would be legendary, and -- spoiler alert! -- nobody remembers them now.

Speaking of legacy and name recognition in Starfleet, I'm sure someone in one of the Star Trek threads mentioned how embarrassed the writers must be now to have included a positive mention of Elon Musk.

and how the central sadness of that film is that all those 1920s silent stars thought they would live forever in celluloid and their exploits would be legendary, and -- spoiler alert! -- nobody remembers them now.

Interesting, this feels almost the opposite of what happened IRL - 1920's movie stars lived in a world without rep screenings, film preservation or home video, it was taken as granted that they'd be forgotten...and yet as recently as my childhood ppl like Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton were still amongst the most recognizable figures worldwide (and I'm going to assume this is still the case as obv the passage of time stops at my birth and all my subsequent experiences representative of the Present).

1920's movie stars lived in a world without rep screenings, film preservation or home video,

I think a lot of them thought the films were the preservation, for a while at least. Anyway, there is maybe a better thread for chat about cultural memory, I don't want to derail SNW chat.

I'll crosspost to the silent film thread

like half the episode resolutions are 'we're starfleet, and starfleet intrinsically rules, so of course we can solve this!' it's cool

I don't mind this, as to me it's a corrective against the "Starfleet bad" stories from Disco/Picard that are told terribly.

vibe whiplash

bunny colvin is a klingon :D

Let’s get all of them in the show over time. (Well I suppose Idris did the one film.)

started watching the episode expecting it to be the musical episode so the tonal shift i had to suddenly make was jarring 9wait are we going to get a Klingon song - oh wait doubt a 'Butcher' gonna get a song - as dont think they would do a Sweeney Todd like song, etc)