Beer in the new era

that video dan m posted is really neat. 1989 and places like Anderson Valley appearing is surprising to me.

Was tempted to go tonight but I also figured it would socked in. As a friend from the UK was visiting I suggested Cellarmaker instead, and it was a hit.

I'm bummed Cellarmaker closed that SF taproom. Did they reopen in Oakland yet? Or did you go to the pizza place?

That was actually the brewery there in SOMA. The landlord raised their rent which is kind of nuts as that area has been a ghost town since the pandemic. So Cellarmaker purchased The Rare Barrel's space in Berkeley and transferred brewery ops there (ultimately they will open a taproom there as well). The Oakland location in Jack London Square is opening soon (early August).

I posted in this about it 9 years ago but I'm 99% sure that the first craft beer I ever had in my life was an anchor steam that Trey Anastasio gave me backstage at a Phish show when I was 18.

So Cellarmaker purchased The Rare Barrel's space in Berkeley and transferred brewery ops there (ultimately they will open a taproom there as well).

"ultimately" = tomorrow at noon! That was much faster than expected.

lol joygoat, that is a perfect story.

I'm pretty sure anchor steam was my first as well, though in a far less glamorous setting.

That was actually the brewery there in SOMA. The landlord raised their rent which is kind of nuts as that area has been a ghost town since the pandemic. So Cellarmaker purchased The Rare Barrel's space in Berkeley and transferred brewery ops there (ultimately they will open a taproom there as well). The Oakland location in Jack London Square is opening soon (early August).

Thanks, I knew they had closed there, but didn't know the story. I really liked that location, super chill, good brewery vibes day and night. I was planning on going again when we are back in SF in December.

Shame about Rare Barrel. One of my friends was way into their stuff.

i don't think that cellarmaker is stopping rare barrel's sour program. you can get both there!

!!

https://vinepair.com/booze-news/anchor-employees-brewery-takeover-bid/

That would be excellent.

Yeah, I wish them luck.. hopefully some silicon valley billionaire can cough up some capital to get them started

RIP Toppling Goliath

https://decorahnews.com/news/8898/2024-presidential-hopeful-ron-desantis-hosted-an-event-friday-at-toppling-goliath-in-decorah/

Toppling Goliath makes a good beer, but hey, fuck 'em. Same happened to Noon Whistle (a good suburban Chicago brewery I used to drink) not long back. They hosted some Republican asshole, then when they got pushback from fans pulled the "we're just a business making a living, hosting this guy is not necessarily an endorsement, free speech, both sides, we're neutral, open minds, blah blah." And the usual conservative assholes then respond to the response with "oh, so now who's the intolerant ones?" And so on.

Ultimately, it's just such an unforced error. Iowa might be a red state, but it's not overwhelmingly red, just run by the usual red bullies these days. Why alienate the other 40% or so?

What's interesting to me about that is that the one time I visited Decorah (on a road trip from Minneapolis-St Paul to Chicago), I felt it less red-state-y than the surrounding areas. But that is bad optics for TG, I could see some fall out among their distro outposts in urban areas.

I'll be at the big beer fest in Madison this weekend (even though I'm not drinking), kinda hope they'll be a boycott of their booth. I'm sure most people will be unaware though.

lol I just talked to someone from Decorah on the phone at work

xpost You should try and visit New Glarus, just 30 minutes away. It's a nice self-guided tour, and you can get some good unique to brewery beer there.

Yeah, deceptively flying vulnerable migrants all over the country pretty much demands a disinvite

Lol Josh, I live in Madison and have def been to New Glarus a few times, thanks though. My band is playing at the fest. Looking forward to the Untitled Art N/A beers (best in the land).

Those Untitled Art ones are even ending up around Portland.

xpost I had no idea! My daughter goes to school there. We're moving her back in next weekend, otherwise this fest would have been fun.

Untitled Art is great. If you haven't had it, I recommend Roaring Table (out of Lake Zurich) and Hop Butcher (especially of you like NEIPAs and DIPAs).

It appears... (based on some financial filings that were screenshotted to me in a slack group)... that Anchor will be back as a co-op sometime soon.

I paused thinking, Wait, were the new-ish house beers at Hopleaf Untitled Art? But no, they were from Art History, and I really liked both of those a few weeks ago.

I love Art History, another one nailing lagers and the like. They put out a really good ... Czech dark lager?

The other day I had a Grodziskie beer, and oof, not my thing. By design, really light, bubbly and low-alcohol, which are all fine, but also smokey, which made it taste like drinking a kielbasa. I assume all smokey beers are kind of controversial, but this one was especially not my jam.

Speaking of Czech lagers, this is probably more "Beer in the Old Era", but to an American traveling within Prague, these variations on beer culture were quite a shock.

During my first night at a Vinohrady burger joint, I noticed servers distributing glasses of a local Pilsner-style lager called Unětický Pivovar 12° that were 2/3 foam, and one glass that was all foam. I asked my server about this, and they pointed me to a diagram of 3 types of beer pours. I eventually tried the 2 alternative pours, and damn, they are definitely worth investigation.

https://www.hopculture.com/the-proper-czech-pours-the-best-foam-youll-ever-drink/

Drinking a 2012 Bourbon County Stout. Tastes fine.

Sounds like Metropolitan Brewing in Chicago is closing, too bad.

Despite being a huge fan of the modern era of beer (lots of local breweries, a sense of adventurousness in style), I really miss having good estery British ales like London Pride available. And it seems impossible to get a good flavourful beer that isn’t some variation on a sour/fruited/novelty-flavoured beer or of an IPA. The occasional porter pops up, but even they — and certainly all the stouts — are usually some kinda saguaro-limestone-toothpaste imperial bourbon breakfast cereal thing. Fuck, dudes, can ya just brew a solid ESB nowadays ffs?

Not sure where you're located but English milds are having a bit of a renaissance on the west coast urban centers. My local even has at least one or two on cask.

I've had a couple of great ones lately. "Thatch Whistler" from Roaring Table 'round here is excellent. There are a handful of breweries specializing in lagers and the like, or at least all things not IPA or pastry stout or whatever.

Re: Metropolitan, feels like there's been a wave of closures lately. It's too bad, but maybe there's only so much room for so many breweries, especially since many of the ones closing (Metropolitan aside) I've never even heard of!

Dying at saguaro-limestone-toothpaste imperial bourbon breakfast cereal thing... so true

My local brewery did a brown ale recently with no novelty ingredients, and named it Nobody Cares.

Not sure where you're located but English milds are having a bit of a renaissance on the west coast urban centers. My local even has at least one or two on cask.

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, November 13, 2023 12:00 PM

MacCloud brewery in Van Nuys (Los Angeles) closed their second location recently, and announced that they will likely be gone entirely soon. They specialized in British style cask ales. I think they over-extended themselves, first with a restaurant location that never happened, then the one that did. The pandemic didn't help.

An English Dark Mild on cask is an instant order for me, but so rare in my experience.

After being a hazebro for most of the last 8 years, I've been making a conscious effort to expand my palate again. I've been drinking a bunch of Rothaus Pils "Tannen Zapfle" and Weihenstephaner Festbier for the last couple of weeks and loving the change.

Oops, that's MacLeod brewery.

https://i.imgur.com/5xigM3n.jpg

Where have you been all my life

Dunno about that one

The other day I had a Grodziskie beer, and oof, not my thing. By design, really light, bubbly and low-alcohol, which are all fine, but also smokey, which made it taste like drinking a kielbasa. I assume all smokey beers are kind of controversial, but this one was especially not my jam.

I really like these (and Sketchbook's in particular), though the friend I tried it with didn't like it at all as well. I've had a few smoked lagers since, American and German Rauchbiers, and dug them as well. Kind of surprised they didn't have a moment in the 2010s when smokiness was featured in so many condiments, especially having that barrel-aged flavor without the syrup-ness of barrel-aged stouts.

To each his own but for me there’s no better clue to “pass” on a menu listing than “smoked”

I’d just as soon as have smoked Gouda or something at home instead of in a beer gag

Assuming that post wasn't from me, I had one of those smoky beers some months ago, and boy was it gross.

“Smoked lager” is a thing blue point brewing offers and vomits

To each his own but for me there’s no better clue to “pass” on a menu listing than “smoked”

Otm

I tried to make one recently and it was the worst thing I'd ever tasted. I thought I just botched it but I went and bought a bunch of smoked beers and nope, turns out that's just how they taste

iirc there was an interesting "why" behind that style, but ... so?

yeah hard pass for me as well

Wow, more for me, I guess!

Feel like it needs to be recorded somewhere that Sligo's own The White Hag brewery have achieved some rare brilliance in the imperial stout department. Yours, Rapidly Ensozzled

Gonna be in North Carolina for a couple of days, what are the typical menu beer option go-tos?

Lagunitas is closing their Chicago behemoth. Always thought that place was kinda emblematic of craft beer over-expansion, plus I haven't had anything good from them in years.