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its a very silly idea that web scrapping no matter how EXTREME could constitute a significant portion of a huge site like twitters traffic

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:14 (three years ago)

yup

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:14 (three years ago)

i do like that phrase tho extreme web scraping might have to get into that

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:16 (three years ago)

it’s very easy to throttle at a limit where it creates negligible load. that’s who’s it’s worked for 15 years. Presumably musk just feels like this is his data and there should be literally zero scraping load. So he asked his h1bs to ship api changes that break basically every client in a way that causes load to explode. genius stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:17 (three years ago)

*how it’s worked

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:17 (three years ago)

lol it’s back for me but my feed is mostly just people tweeting the numbers 1 to 600

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:08 (three years ago)

still down for me but ive been able to look at tweets from by bot accounts the whole time

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:09 (three years ago)

I saw a few hundred tweets and then got rate limited again lol

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:13 (three years ago)

waxy article is incredible

formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:17 (three years ago)

lol is the “extreme web scraping” they’re seeing just their own web client firing off hundreds of requests due to a bug?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:24 (three years ago)

information wants to be extremely free

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 23:26 (three years ago)

The day the public square got a cover charge.

earlnash, Sunday, 2 July 2023 01:51 (three years ago)

It's pretty funny that the final straw for a lot of people was "not letting me look at this site all day long"

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 July 2023 03:34 (three years ago)

who

serving bundt (sic), Sunday, 2 July 2023 07:36 (three years ago)

600 is just rereading my own posts

— Hadas Weiss (@weiss_hadas) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 07:37 (three years ago)

Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified https://t.co/fuRcJLifTn

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 07:42 (three years ago)

you awake from a deep trance,
step away from the phone
to see your friends & family

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 2, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 2 July 2023 07:55 (three years ago)

I hate that a musky loser was able to destroy something that, despite all the shit, was providing us with rapid news, a way to organize quickly, a place for mutual aid and a chance to form communities. I mean - of course it was always going to happen, but still.

— âpihtawikosisân (@apihtawikosisan) July 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 08:44 (three years ago)

apologies, but does anyone here happen to have a Bluesky invite they might be willing to share with ... uh ... me?

alpine static, Sunday, 2 July 2023 09:02 (three years ago)

Same same.

steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 2 July 2023 11:48 (three years ago)

Same same.

steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 2 July 2023 11:48 (three years ago)

Whatever you've done is hurting genuine users and is having a negative knock-on effect to verified users.
My followers can't like my tweets because they've hit a limit of liking.
See how mad that is?
You've actually stopped folk being able to express their positive feelings.

— Hedgehog Cabin (@HedgehogCabin) July 1, 2023

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 July 2023 12:55 (three years ago)

bluesky’s giving me a “account creation temporarily disabled” error right now, boo

mh, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:22 (three years ago)

Yeah, I think they paused it because they had an overwhelming rush of people signing up, for some reason.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:28 (three years ago)

it seems to be working fine today theyll prob turn reg back on soon

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:30 (three years ago)

hell is empty and all the shitposters are here (on bluesky)

mark s, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:39 (three years ago)

caek otm.

There’s no reason to believe this is related to their Google Cloud infrastructure. In addition to caek’s point that it wasn’t used for essential services, it’s, as far as I know, unprecedented for an account of Twitter’s size to be immediately suspended by _any_ cloud provider. Especially on Google Cloud as Google has the reputation of trying to save every possible deal. Nevertheless, it’s a useful reminder that cloud providers, for whatever reason, don’t have anything close to the regulatory framework other utilities do, so I think it’s still possible for them to immediately suspend customers.

I think the story isn’t more complicated than a cascading failure that’s extremely challenging to debug when the people who wrote the systems are MIA. I imagine this is why the engineers want to rewrite.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:03 (three years ago)

apologies, but does anyone here happen to have a Bluesky invite they might be willing to share with ... uh ... me?

― alpine static, Sunday, July 2, 2023 5:02 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I’ve been getting some every few days. I’ll post them when I have them. But maybe they’ll slow down sending invite codes for a few days?

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:07 (three years ago)

the weird rate limit was a nice little window into how twitter hydrates user timeline caches and what is/isn’t pre-populated

mh, Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:08 (three years ago)

Some real high school vibes at Twitter right now, everyone on the site is actively celebrating the it’s demise while plotting ways to break it further

frogbs, Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:42 (three years ago)

Yeah GCP doesn’t just cut off customers that spend hundreds of millions a year on the first of the month at midnight UTC.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:44 (three years ago)

There’s apparently a specific service to do with the creation and modification of load balancing/network abuse rules that ran on GCP. Unexpected loss of that could have triggered this problem but seems more likely that they shut it down deliberately last month to save money and effectively tied their hands behind their back when whatever actually caused this problem (which admittedly could have been actual abuse like musk seems to think) started off. These systems are so complicated and interconnected and it’s so hard to reason about whether it’s safe to remove a service. I can see why a rewrite is tempting when the only people who had a chance of reasoning like that are on a beach somewhere.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:50 (three years ago)

i will make them a new website i think i understand react server components now

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:55 (three years ago)

I love doing my job at Twitter, where I am CEO. My job is liking the tweets of my CTO, who is also my boss. I have made no formal statement about my company effectively shutting down on a holiday weekend, and have left this up to my CTO/boss, who seems confused all the time pic.twitter.com/3wE713ff03

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) July 2, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 July 2023 19:32 (three years ago)

Funny bcz it's true.

All of us still on Twitter as it gets worse and worse every day pic.twitter.com/6eASJtPJLn

— Sophie Hall (@SophLouiseHall) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 19:52 (three years ago)

THE FIRST MAN IN LINE GRAB A TWEET. THE SECOND MAN GRAB REPLIES. WHEN THE FIRST MAN IS RATE LIMITED, THE SECOND MAN PICKS UP THE TWEET AND POSTS pic.twitter.com/VSKyD5yUSp

— Zane Schacht - Voice Goblin 🐀 (@VoicesByZane) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 19:54 (three years ago)

You may think Twitter is dying but when there’s a Man Utd fan releasing a 1 hour 49 minute film of his own goalkeeper’s mistakes then I can assure you this app has never been more alive. https://t.co/OgHINCcyMF

— Hank Azulinger (@iammrazul) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:22 (three years ago)

You may think Twitter is dying but when there’s a Man Utd fan releasing a 1 hour 49 minute film of his own goalkeeper’s mistakes then I can assure you this app has never been more alive. https://t.co/OgHINCcyMF

— Hank Azulinger (@iammrazul) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:22 (three years ago)

Twitter's stopped me liking posts this morning.

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:57 (three years ago)

On some level I'm glad as I don't enjoy the platform and am using it out of habit / to distract from a sentence that's proving difficult to construct.

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:58 (three years ago)

And now I can't post either. I might actually get some work done today!

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:59 (three years ago)

third day of this shit going on when has a major site ever been broken for three days its crazy

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 12:39 (three years ago)

one would think theyd try to roll back whatever they did to cause this but perhaps elon doesnt want to

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 12:40 (three years ago)

I still haven't hit a limit.

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 3 July 2023 14:16 (three years ago)

it was fine for me yesterday but down today

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:19 (three years ago)

All fine both yesterday and today.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:20 (three years ago)

Not sure some dude ever still posts to ilx, but he's saying all of his tweets from the month of June have vanished.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 3 July 2023 14:26 (three years ago)

lol gdamn

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:28 (three years ago)

420 dimensional chess

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:22 (three years ago)

can somebody erase all my tweets too please

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:25 (three years ago)


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