U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Ginsburg Edition

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ruled in favor of the bigot "web designer"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

pathetic country

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:06 (two years ago)

They've gone and saved the worst for last

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:08 (two years ago)

My religion tells me these people suck.

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:10 (two years ago)

The Supreme Court on Friday sided with a web designer in Colorado who said she had a First Amendment right to refuse to provide services for same-sex marriages despite a state law that forbids discrimination against gay people.

In a 6 to 3 vote, split along ideological lines, the court held that the First Amendment prohibits Colorado from forcing a website designer to create expressive designs speaking messages with which the designer disagrees. Justice Neil M. Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion.

The case, though framed as clash between free speech and gay rights, was the latest in a series of decisions in favor of religious people and groups, notably conservative Christians.

The decision also appeared to suggest that the rights of L.G.B.T.Q. people, including to same-sex marriage, are on more vulnerable legal footing, particularly when they are at odds with claims of religious freedom. At the same time, the ruling limited the ability of the governments to enforce anti-discrimination laws.

The designer, Lorie Smith, said her Christian faith requires her to turn away customers seeking wedding-related services to celebrate same-sex unions. She added that she intends to post a message saying the company’s policy is a product of her religious convictions.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:18 (two years ago)

Helluva an end to pride month. Fuck this absolute burning trash pile of a country.

Preemptively fuck Biden and the Dems for the forthcoming round of head shaking and being “concerned” while not lifting a fucking finger to fight back against the creeping fascism.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

what would you like done?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

I'm the gay guy in Florida. What would you have us do?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

The Supreme Court's third and final decision is the second student debt case. The majority finds that Missouri has standing and STRIKES DOWN Biden's student debt relief program. It is 6–3. https://t.co/TK3eTzQgiE

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) June 30, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

Fair, I don’t have the easy answer. I know it was a long shot anyway, but for one thing Biden could have not just shot down the very idea of expanding the court from the start.

I just want more out of my elected representatives than just concerned tweets.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:38 (two years ago)

Lots of very bad things this 6-3 majority has done, (Dobbs being, imho, the worst), but them deciding you are now $10,000 poorer than you were yesterday is really a helluva thing.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 30, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:40 (two years ago)

so cool of the supreme court to stick up for the disenfranchised. in this case, white bigots.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 30 June 2023 14:40 (two years ago)

Fair, I don’t have the easy answer. I know it was a long shot anyway, but for one thing Biden could have not just shot down the very idea of expanding the court from the start.

I just want more out of my elected representatives than just concerned tweets.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0),

Biden took executive action and the Sinister Six slapped him across the face. If you wanna blame anyone, blame Ruth Bader Ginsberg for not retiring in 2013.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:41 (two years ago)

all just in time to catch a friend's private jet out of town for the weekend.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:42 (two years ago)

blame Ruth Bader Ginsberg for not retiring in 2013

Why stop there? Blame everyone older than, well, me personally

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:43 (two years ago)

BYRON couldn't have said so graciously.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:44 (two years ago)

Ruth's legacy is in shambles

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:44 (two years ago)

xp Bill's 32. He looks 32. He looked it five years ago, he'll look it 20 years from now. I hate men.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

"The Supreme Court's decision today means that no one who qualified for relief under Biden's plan will have even a penny of their student debt cancelled. The majority has blocked about $430 billion in debt relief for roughly 40 million Americans"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 14:56 (two years ago)

Do I have this right? In the span of 2 days SCOTUS said that businesses can refuse service to protected minorities, but also businesses have to give their Christian employees Sundays off or whatever other religious demands they make?

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:56 (two years ago)

From a quick scan of the decision this might be true:

In my understanding the Court's ruling refers to Biden's action under the HEROES Act 2003. He has the legal authority to modify or waive student debt through other means.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) June 30, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:56 (two years ago)

Do I have this right? In the span of 2 days SCOTUS said that businesses can refuse service to protected minorities, but also businesses have to give their Christian employees Sundays off or whatever other religious demands they make?

Yeah, but in the "both the rich and the poor are forbidden to sleep under bridges" spirit of fun, businesses can now refuse service to Christians, too.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:16 (two years ago)

Oh that'll be on the next docket, no doubt

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:19 (two years ago)

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/the-supreme-court-cant-kill-student-loan-relief.html

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

430 billion in student debt relief is wiped out but contributor to New York mag says to be happy because a smaller plan that applies to less people and cancels less debt is still working.

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:44 (two years ago)

The Supreme Court's decision today means that no one who qualified for relief under Biden's plan will have even a penny of their student debt cancelled. The majority has blocked about $430 billion in debt relief for roughly 40 million Americans. https://t.co/TK3eTzQgiE

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) June 30, 2023

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:45 (two years ago)

430 billion in student debt relief is wiped out but contributor to New York mag says to be happy because a smaller plan that applies to less people and cancels less debt is still working.

― curmudgeon,

thanks for the insight

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:45 (two years ago)

I'm posting another POV without endorsement.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

Seeing some speculation that this decision could be the tipping point that ultimately leads to a late-2023 recession that the country has, so far, managed to somehow avoid. I'm no economist, but if that does happen, it'll be timed up nicely for the presidential election year.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

(The reasoning being that graduates who have been able to spend money elsewhere will now be forced to focus on buckling down and paying off the debt.)

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:48 (two years ago)

I can’t help but hope between the recent decisions and the exposure of Alito/Thomas’ various examples of grifting, these conservative justices are in the middle of overplaying their hand.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 30 June 2023 15:49 (two years ago)

Alright maybe I skimmed that New York mag article too fast

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:50 (two years ago)

I just wish I owned a business so I could refuse service to Christians and heterosexuals

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

RBG always had a shitty record, and the idolatry of her by center-right Democrats always mystifies me. She continually supported endless expansion of police powers. She was no fucking hero to the working class

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:54 (two years ago)

Biden’s shoulders must get sore from the helpless shrugging

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

Macimillion-I feel your rage. Impotent, incompetent leadership from Biden and Obama definitely contributed to this. Leaving America is the only sane option at this point. I have no doubt that total fascism WILL exist by 2030

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:58 (two years ago)

Biden DID, however, take the time this week to give a big shout out to asshole Jeffrey Katzenberg

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

According to Chief Justice Roberts, he and his colleagues are merely acting in their capacity as 'umpires' to call balls and strikes, so we mustn't get mad at them because they are perfectly neutral arbiters of the law and good custodians of our rights.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

Macimillion-I feel your rage. Impotent, incompetent leadership from Biden and Obama definitely contributed to this.

yes I'm sure it did

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

Thanks for the useless snark. You’re all in the same boat.

Keep voting harder?

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

Time to take a breath here

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

Republicans win because they play dirty. Democrats have an obsession with decorum, which frankly hasn’t panned out well during this century

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

You don't say.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:26 (two years ago)

Do go on, darling, instructing the only gay Floridian public university employee how #bothsides are to blame.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:27 (two years ago)

On this message board at least

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:28 (two years ago)

You really need to stop directing your anger towards me. Be constructive with it.

Good luck in Florida

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:29 (two years ago)

I'll tell the local party of which I'm a member, hon. Thanks!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:30 (two years ago)

Good luck! Thanks for the patronizing attitude. Just please don’t respond to me anymore. I wasn’t even commenting directly to you earlier

beamish13, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:32 (two years ago)

Are you still here shouting at people who don't deserve it?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:35 (two years ago)

idk if you all remember but this exact argument played out with this exact same poster the moment RBG died in 2020

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:35 (two years ago)


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