HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

idk she did guilt trip them about business talk only to spring her husbands pitch on them lol

well yeah I didn't say she's great but generally speaking she was right. like, just fucking sell the place and take the money and do something else, what is wrong with all of them

shell never understand how hungry one can be for media companies

the whole theory about tom's name Wambsgans foreshadowing that he would knock out all 3 kids to win the throne would (obv) have to mean that the writers knew that was the narrative arc from the beginning. has armstrong commented? interviews with mcfadden from earlier seasons suggest the writers didn't really know where they were going with tom's character. maybe they were just setting his character up as one possilbe victor. it makes sense they knew none of the kids would ultimately succeed.

Jeremy Strong never looks creepier than when he smiles

Are the kids now still legally on the hook to buy Pierce together? Feel like that could be awkward

lol Pierce i think u can safely let thst narrative thread go now

*that

they were just setting his character up as one possilbe victor

"Victor" seems the wrong word here, I think a big part of what's going on as the show wraps up is the bright light shined on the difference between "getting the thing you wanted" and "victory"

farewell to a wonderful show

I will miss whenever stuff starts to go Kendall's way and he just shifts into cocky CEO mode. Just interrupting everyone, shouting buzzwords, barely finishing conversations. Funniest shit in the world to me

— rain (actual speed) enjoyer (@notnotnuanced) May 29, 2023

"Victor" seems the wrong word here,

I think it's the right word in terms of the outcome for the company, but there's no winner of the show, because everyone remains dreadful and incapable of enjoying anything or being content for more than ten minutes.

"Victor" seems the wrong word here

in the world of the show "victor" is probably right word (tom is the successor). but, as you point, out the show makes it abundantly clear the costs for the winner and the also-rans are terribly steep. And yet, unfortunately for the rest of us, it's a bargain all too many people are willing to make.

Can we move on past this basic talking point please, it’s been a thing for like three seasons

Glad they acknowledged Greg being the highest paid assistant in human history.

_ What do y'all think peter's friend's pitch was?_

from what i could tell it was something about care homes of not-great quality?

surprised he only makes 200k honestly

Does he still live rent-free at Kendall's place?

Kendall’s implied infertility is kinda sad.

Also that all of their relationships are now so utterly broken. the brief moments of genuine togetherness in the kitchen and in front of the dinner video are over, it could be decades until they speak again

new jess

I choose to believe her name was Jess also.

I choose to believe her name was Jess also.

The perfect setup for a movie... there is no way this is over.

... and it this is over, I'm funding a startup just to make AI episodes of Succession pic.twitter.com/Mzfoz3LPYQ

— @jason (@Jason) May 29, 2023

in all the handwringing online about shiv’s choices in the finale no one seems to take into account that she is maybe choosing for herself ~and her unborn child~

like not “oh baby needs a father” but “i want my kid to be part of something that ISN’T shifting sands” and that there’s more likely a legacy for the kid if it’s Tom vs Kendall bc ob w kendall the whole thing’s in flames within a month

like yes she is out for herself always but now she is selfishly choosing for the both of them, ruthlessly so

Best show, it'll be missed. So sharp and brutal and funny and got out on a peak vs being stretched out, a final season split in two, etc.

yeah i was disappointed they were doing four seasons instead of five but it was perfect

Yeah it had to go like this, starting the show at the moment the kids realize it'll be up for grabs soon and ending just as that opportunity forever evaporates

shoutout to the poor sod who had to ride the elevator down with suicidal Ken

also my childhood version was

silence in the courtyard
the judge is eating beans
his wife is in the bathtub
shooting submarines

no idea what it meant or where it came from but it was fun to shout

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
Posted: May 29, 2023 at 9:14:17 AM
Face eggs
yes thank you

also their mother struck me as not nearly as awful as she had in the past in this episode, like their total animosity toward her seems misplaced.

really? her withholding & denial of basic affection in this final ep i found really upsetting and heartbreaking

like her inability to care for Rome when he is at his most broken & vulnerable because of her own weird hangups just stung so hard but so flippantly tossed off like she was arachnophobic and he was making her hunt for spiders

her inviting them solely to be pitched
SERIOUSLY so fucked

even her meager offerings of food like she cannot, will not give them anything. not love, support, nourishment or even enjoyment

maybe it’s me coming from a childhood of emotional abuse but man i grew up with a version of that shit and it is as brutal and damaging as a punch to the face

Otm

and the way the siblings reach back to their own trauma & to their parents for the most effective tools to hurt each other, emotionally & physically is really stark in this episode

The Kendall/Roman hug and the way Kendall knows that Roman responds positively to pain because that was the only way he ever got attention 🫥

Shiv Truss with the ring pendant and what that symbolises or so I've read.

Felt a bit disappointed with it ending on Kendall on that way but some of that was just that it's ending and again I have no better ideas none.

the face-grab at the end was what got me

theviolence toward Rome is coming from the same brother who had once leaped to -defend- Rome from Logan’s beating
Ken now just fully metamorphosing -into- Logan without thought, like absolute muscle memory
awful

my read on the kendall/roman thing was partially ken helping make sure romans injuries looked legitimate enough, albeit in a weird way

reopening roman’s head wound was a fucked up scene with no one interpretation imo

even if the writers wanted one thing, it felt like love, Kendall enacting Logan’s cruelty, Roman visually leaning in — is he resisting? leaning into it? — and some shared acknowledgment that they’re not going to jettison the pain-inflicting inherent in this business

otm and that’s when the mood shifted from the very nice beach/kitchen scenes to the reality of taking over the trauma company

yeah mh otm

that tone-shift was so good
almost like Waystar Royco or even the building itself rejected their earlier familial closeness

it is the black lodge

haha fuck - have definitely been invoking twin peaks s3 in the last 24h - in a “best tv since Scary Monsters” context

excellent finale. tied up just enough, while also feeling like a fantastic normal episode of the show. i would happily keep watching these characters continue to be miserable but it’s appropriate that the show ended with the actual succession.

funny enough, the final result did feel like enacting logan’s will. tom’s betrayal of the kids (and stealing the chicken from logan’s plate lol) paying off

Clumsy interloper ftw

my name is jeremy strong and this is jackass pic.twitter.com/KlFBxlrYah

— lana cel-ray (@sweatyhabibti) May 29, 2023

Kieran Culkin and Sarah Snook shaving Jeremy Strong’s hair after Succession Finale. 🫶🏼🥲#SuccessionHBO #Succession pic.twitter.com/W7g86no6yV

— chiara (@sirromanroy) May 29, 2023

lol

Number ONE Boy, Jeremy Strong, has absolutely no idea what song they are singing. @succession ❤️ pic.twitter.com/2oanGNT0NL

— Matt Sharp (@_mattsharp) May 29, 2023

anyone else unnerved by how much skarsgard slips into sounding exactly like skarsgard the elder in odd spots?

also this

would party with this gang

🎥 | Sarah Snook and Jesse Armstrong doing karaoke pic.twitter.com/vtf6Zy836f

— best of sarah snook (@bestofsnook) May 29, 2023

both those songs' lyrics seem apt for succession

Also that all of their relationships are now so utterly broken. the brief moments of genuine togetherness in the kitchen and in front of the dinner video are over, it could be decades until they speak again

― JLB Credit (Jack BS), Monday, May 29, 2023 10:53 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

there were at least ten times between each relationship arc where i thought surely they'll never talk again in their lifetime, and then they'd just... be over it within like half an episode. i tend to think they'll be fine within a couple days, when they all realize this was actually the best possible outcome for all of them.

i think ken attacking roman and shiv crossed a line (repeating their dad’s abuses) it may be hard to come back from but also yes you’re right they sure have said horrible unforgivable things to each other and bounced right back into a seemingly forgone dynamic

Tomorrow they all wake up and are still billionaires, so

in a few months, they'll all show up at some benefit connor/willa are hosting, roman will make a snide quote abt tom ruining the company, and they'll all be back in the same old patterns

i loved caroline's "I've never had my plans ruined by a huge board meeting before" lol. because yes, at the end of the day this was just another business deal