US Politics, May 2023: May 1 never happened

Now that he's whittled out some pseudo compromise that he's supposedly close to OK with, McCarthy is so not going to be able to rally his army of stupids to vote for it, is he? Gonna be like his speakership vote redux.

Enough Dems may go for it to negate the Republican holdouts

And I say this with all due respect to all parties involved: Fuck you, eat shit

otm

It is very bad that, every so often, we make a set of arbitrary and damaging policy decisions that have no real impact on the debt in the name of solving a debt problem that is not really a problem, and I hope we have an administration invested in putting an end to this someday.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) May 28, 2023

How i break it down

Yep!

Biden and his new chief of Staff seem obsessed with trying to be bipartisan and centrist, but not interested in strongly making the case ifor Democratic priorities. Just behaving defensively while McCarthy was out there pushing an extreme right plan and then settling for a slightly less extreme rightward “compromise “ that may only pass if Dems vote for it

More pegging discussion today from an unexpected quarter. David French:

The release of the Missouri senator Josh Hawley’s new book on manhood is the latest peg for a national conversation about men,

Taking Manhood up a Peg by Josh Hallway

Dems have never once played hardball to get Dem policy priorities in debt limit negotiations under Republican presidents.

It's partly bad tactics, I agree, but there's also a point where it's just not being willing to create mass instability. The perennial problem of asymmetrical ideological warfare.

Who’s having a national conversation about men except the ball-tanning weirdos. Sorry you feel emasculated brahs meanwhile we’ll be over here having great sex with our partners.

I love the whole "men need a sense of purpose" thing, like "how about, don't be an asshole?" That's a pretty good sense of purpose.

Ron DeSantis' sense of purpose is to be so embarrassing.

NEW: “If she were a Democrat, she’d be on every fashion magazine. … They would be making her out to be the biggest deal. But because we’re conservative, we know that that’s not what happens."

– Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R)https://t.co/wJb5DNe2Vl

— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) May 28, 2023

America's first wife guy President

At least he doesn't call her Mommy. Or does he?

McCarthy was so wrong, there is a single thing in this bill for a Democrat. Can you guess which “Democrat”? That’s right…

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-28/manchin-gets-mountain-valley-pipeline-side-deal-into-debt-bill

PHOENIX -- Karrin Taylor Robson, a wealthy Republican businessperson who was seen as the likeliest establishment candidate for a crucial Arizona Senate contest, said Thursday that she won't run for the seat now held by independent Kyrsten Sinema.

This pretty much clears the way for Kari Lake to get the nomination.

Most annoying Senate race ever.

Sounds like the IRS reduction is now $20B not $10B, although the idea is that current funding won't change, it will expire in 8 years instead of 10.

if Kari Lake runs as the republican candidate, Kyrsten Sinema as the independent, and Ruben Gallego as the democrat in the Arizona Senate race, that seems like a disaster to me

what's wrong with Gallego

nothing, I like him! I'm just thinking in a three-way race Sinema and Gallego will split the democratic vote allowing Kari Lake to win

I've seen people speculate that Sinema's standing with democrats is so bad that she won't take away a significant number of votes, but I have no idea how true that is.

I don't think that's true, she won her last election and we're talking about Arizona democrats here, I think if it's a three-way race Kari Lake is likely to win

polling supports the idea that sinema is HUGELY unpopular with AZ dems, but how it all plays out in a 3-way race is not particularly clear. it wouldn't even take her getting to double digits to throw the outcome into a very gray area.

Lake got 1,271,000 votes to Hobbs' 1,288,000 votes in the last gubernatorial election. She has a lot of support in the state. It just seems like a split vote could easily get her elected

Lake is so crazy I think a lot of "moderate Republicans" might actually go for Sinema

Arizona is an outlier in republican politics, maybe I'll give it that, I'm not sure, but how do you explain the last election for governor? Lake is crazy but they voted for her. Maybe her craziness is becoming more apparent to them, but I still think there will be more democrats that go for Sinema than republicans

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2024/arizona/

you can just look at the polling rather than speculate, recent polling has it at gallego 42, lake 35, synema 14

ok, polls, yeah that's the ticket

Or just doompost your way through it, whatever floats your boat

senate polling was extremely accurate in 2022 if you throw out all the garbage the Rs threw in just before the election but whatever, just some data 4 u

I don't mean to be harsh, and we don't even know if she's running yet, but she came very close to winning the race for governor in 2022 (within less than one point)

is your concern that she's more crazy than the average republican, or that she's more popular than the average republican?

Respect to the data but that polling doesn’t seem to say a lot. The question there is when it comes to a runoff will Sinema voters go for Lake or Gallego? I’m sure they’ll normalize Lake’s batshittery while smearing Gallego, those Sinema loyalists don’t seem too scrupulous to begin with.

Guess that of moots the point about splitting the vote…I’ll shut up now.

arizona does not have runoffs, winner of plurality of vote wins the election

A third party former Democrat pulling enough of the vote to throw the election is a legitimate concern.

Kari Lake did a lot worse than every other Republican governor running for the last decade. Including the (equally?) psychotic Jan Brewer

governor *in Arizona

And yeah there's definitely the possibility Gallego will lose, but it's better than a Sinema vs Lake contest

Around 200k unemployed people exist between the ages of 49 and 54. Some portion have dependents or disabilities.

There are 500k homeless people between the ages of 16 and 49. Almost none of them were eligible for SNAP before.

This is an *expansion* of SNAP. https://t.co/joXnCucRQi

— Galen Metzger🪬📈🇺🇦 (@GalenMetzger1) May 28, 2023

The SNAP changes are nominally extending work requirements to ages 50 to 54. In reality, especially as the new rule is implemented, this is just an indiscriminate cull of a bunch of 50 to 54 year olds from SNAP who won't realize there are new forms they need to fill out.

— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) May 28, 2023

Florida had *already* exempted homeless people from work requirements.

By dumping them in the Atlantic.

is your concern that she's more crazy than the average republican, or that she's more popular than the average republican?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, May 28, 2023

my concern is that she's as popular as the average republican and they don't care if she's crazy, they are going to vote for her

And yeah there's definitely the possibility Gallego will lose, but it's better than a Sinema vs Lake contest

― symsymsym, Sunday, May 28, 2023

no, if Gallego loses it's going to be to Lake, not Sinema

they're saying it's better that Gallego is running than just having it be Sinema vs Lake

I'm glad he's thrown his hat in the ring.

I hope either Sinema or Lake won't run, neither of them have declared yet