HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

(not saying it was a good idea, but wasn't Connor trying to talk Willa into having the big expensive wedding because it would make him look more electable, get some media exposure, etc?)

Yeah it was discussed a fair bit

presumably a "greg is going be the winner" subtweet

Thinking again about how there were people who thought Mad Men would end with Draper jumping or falling out a skyscraper window

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) May 26, 2023

And Megan was going to be murdered by the Manson family

I don’t think it’s possible that they’re consecutive days?

I knew each ep was a day but they all back to back?
eps 4,5,6,7 seems esp tight
ep 4 - the wake
ep 5 - they are in Norway (roughly 7 hour flight)
ep 6 - they are in LA (11 hour flight from Norway to LA)
EP 7 - Tailgate party back in NYC

ep 8 - election day, then funeral in 9 -

even with private jets seems tight with time spent in each location - someone should be handing out speed to all of 'em
i had a problem with them scheduling the funeral for the day after the election, would have figured they'd wait a cpl of days even to plan properly but guess we're supposed to accept for the sake of the drama

My interpretation is each is a day but they're not consecutive

It would be funny if the finale were short scenes each separated by a substantial time interval and 90 minutes takes us through to Tom and Shiv's baby taking over the company

interesting history/inspiration piece by Armstrong

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/may/27/jesse-armstrong-on-the-roots-of-succession-bum-rush-trump-presidency

It was about 2008 and I was on location for the filming of Peep Show, the UK sitcom my longtime writing partner Sam Bain and I wrote together. Between that show and my work on The Thick of It and In the Loop, and a bunch of other things, I was feeling overcommitted.

crazy resume

I nominate Super Hans to win Succession!

One precarious thing is that Rupert Murdoch is still somehow alive and his actual death and succession drama could make this series look like hagiography.

I guess we'll find out when Rupert Murdoch dies this weekend.

Being told to fuck off by the Succession production office has been one of the highlights of my career thus far. #Succession #SuccessionHBO pic.twitter.com/ABKElZLTHV

— Tim Wilson (@TimWil014) May 27, 2023

Remembering now how no one guessed the last Sopranos episode would have a 20-minute new AJ subplot of no big significance.

Main thing in this last-episode promo image is that it looks like the city's full of smoke or tear gas. And the 'Max' logo at the bottom is its own succession joke.

Endgame. The series finale of #Succession is streaming tonight at 9pm ET on @StreamOnMax. pic.twitter.com/7ZheIFVDKC

— Succession (@succession) May 28, 2023

it looks like the city's full of smoke or tear gas.

and Logan!

Maybe in the end they pivot from the mausoleum concept and install embalmed Logan on the front balcony of Waystar HQ like a prow.

do we have confirmation on the running time yet?

The HBO schedule online says 90 min

I saw 88 somewhere but that might have been a Mencken reference

BFI is doing a midnight screening tonight with Jesse Armstrong

This has been a fine thread, see you all on the other side

assume everyone has pre-grieved

yep pregrieved, all set, fine fine i’ll be fine

(can we hold hands)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_lflcevOdM

waaaaaaah why is this the finale i dont want it to end

hmm they’re rolling into my bad theory too early in the episode, so it’s not going to fly by the end

HUSH

Isn't this thing over yet? It's time for Barry!

How’s everyone doing?

(I haven’t seen any of the show but know this is The Big Ending.)

Damn

Kendall couldn’t just keep his mouth shut and give her a moment. Can’t escape who you are.

Shiv and Tom finding the only way to do love in this manic world right at the end is a top payoff to this series. The Roy family could never do it, could never sacrifice for one another because the trauma is too deeply ingrained. Great finale

I think if Kendall was strong and stayed in the room when Shiv left, she would have come back with a yes for team Roy

Everyone in this show is awful and I’m glad that it’s over

Would accept an invitation to Barbados from Caroline esp if she was inviting Kerri and Marcia tho

This basically ended in a way that fit the understanding of the characters I'd come to and so I found it satisfying. I don't think it's particularly sad.

This one took place over two days by the way!

In particular, I got my wish on this and am glad

What I want to happen is for the election to recede into the background for the rest of the show because, like so many other things that seemed momentarily of import, the Roys don't actually care about it. Like, there will be a couple of lines of dialogue in one of the final two episodes where somebody mentions that a court ordered a revote and Jimenez won.

What I don't want is for the show to end on Roys Realize Too Late That They Ruined America And Are Bad

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:23 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s kind of poetic that the final scene of substance in this show had

- Kendal lying about the killing
- Roman taking potshots about adoption/sperm donors
- Shiv realizing that her gung-ho attitude was generated by her desire to be shitty to Tom

Definitely made me feel content to consign these shitheads to my mental trash folder, thank you writers!

I can't comprehend finding these characters hard to identify with!

this was the right ending despite a couple of false notes

For fun, shall we?

Winners based on how much they got what they wanted: Logan > Mattson > Tom = Shiv > Greg > Rome > Ken.

And then there's Con going to Slovakia while Willa gets her luxury condo.... maybe Willa was the winner after all?

Def implied that Mencken is gonna lose.

Just saw an article mention ken and roman's hug as a sweet brotherly embrace. Wasn't there more to it? I thought ken purposely squeezed roman's head to open up the wound to deflate roman's idea that he looked good and it could have been him.

I saw it the way you saw it.

yeah same

yeah not sure what that article was thinking

I thought Rome’s smile as he sat at the bar implied he was happy all the Waystar shit was going to be over for him and the Roys. He couldn’t vote yes to the deal himself or admit to Ken he wanted out. I think Rome was a winner. Only Ken looks devastated at the outcome.

Tremendous finale. It felt like 10 episodes; all the character arcs replayed at high speed.

Re hug - I also got a sense that Roman was deliberately mashing his injury into Ken’s shoulder, felt in keeping with his love/pain vibes

Fuck can’t believe it’s over, what a ride

Yeah, it seemed like Rome was leaning into it, not that Ken was forcing it (while obviously letting it happen)

xps yeah i do think Roman came out of this kinda okay - like obv fucked up but glad to be out of it for sure

what happened to Pearce Media in all this - weren’t they committed to buy? felt that thread just disappeared