It's a film alright.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:18 (three years ago)
when I was a kid and just starting to read movie reviews and writing about movies in the music press there was so much hyperbole about Raging Bull
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:23 (three years ago)
Best Film of the Eighties
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:26 (three years ago)
I bow
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.)
You're too short for that gesture.
lads
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:27 (three years ago)
Best Film of the Eighties― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 24, 2023 12:26 PM
Such a relief to see Do the Right Thing displant Bull for that title
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:30 (three years ago)
Marty's third or fourth best of the eighties (I do like it but...)
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:58 (three years ago)
Not sure I've ever done this, but here are the ten I'd go to bat for, in my view:
Alice Doesn't Live Here AnymoreTaxi DriverNew York, New YorkThe King of ComedyThe Last Temptation of ChristThe Age of InnocenceA Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American MoviesThe DepartedShutter IslandThe Irishman
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:05 (three years ago)
The Hague
Shutter Island
Meh
After HoursRaging BullThe AviatorBringing Out the DeadGangs of New YorkThe Color of MoneyHugo
Sound, Solid
The Last Temptation of ChristThe DepartedCape FearThe King of ComedyThe IrishmanNew York, New YorkThe Wolf of Wall StreetKundunWho’s That Knocking at My Door
Good to Great
Taxi DriverThe Age of InnocenceMean StreetsGoodfellasSilenceLife LessonsAlice Doesn’t Live Here AnymoreCasino
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:23 (three years ago)
i watched raging bull twice because id honestly thought id missed the bull the first time
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:34 (three years ago)
They should've called it BadFellas
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:35 (three years ago)
I saw Raging Bull for the first time a few years ago. Maybe it’s that I’m not a boxing guy, but … I’ll never see it again.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:35 (three years ago)
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.),
https://i.imgur.com/3M7wYy1.gif
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:37 (three years ago)
thread is now good
fellas
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:52 (three years ago)
Shut yer island
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:02 (three years ago)
need to rewatch after hours now that i know griffin dunne is joan didion's nephew (game-changing)
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:10 (three years ago)
after hours and bringing out the dead are among my faves
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:11 (three years ago)
Going next weekend to see Raging Bull in a theatre for the first time in at least a decade. Actually makes me a little sad to see it get raked over the coals like this.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:30 (three years ago)
After Hours is one of the ones I didn't like when I first saw it but am def willing to give it another shot
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:33 (three years ago)
it's a perfect weird '80s movie, a spiritual cousin to repo man in some ways.
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:37 (three years ago)
Find it heartening seeing xyzzzz__ say all these nice things about Scorsese...Saw both documentaries years ago, don't remember specifics but thought they were very good.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink
I remember gloating about Godfather II's downfall at the s&s poll. Everything else is a blank. Don't remember being nasty about MS.
I love Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy and I will def get round to Casino and The Irishman.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:39 (three years ago)
Maybe you and I are being conflated ... I actually don't hate The Godfather and am fine with its canonical status
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:39 (three years ago)
― omar little
I never thought about it this way. And a precursor to Something Wild.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:41 (three years ago)
My memory of it is that it's not so far removed from The Warriors
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:43 (three years ago)
xpost to clemenza: don’t let ‘em get you down. It still is and will always be a great film. Enjoy!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:44 (three years ago)
Stay resolute!
Maybe you and I are being conflated
More likely I'm conflating Coppola and Scorsese. Anyway, my mistake.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:45 (three years ago)
I rewatched Raging Bull a few months ago for the first time in about 17 years. I do think it's slipped down a bit in the canon and I'd always put it off as a lesser Marty as its such a downer and Jake is such a pos but it's up there with his very best on the rewatch. The levels of ridiculous machismo are darkly comic like when he's asking his brother to punch him until his stitches come out.
I must rewatch Bringing Out The Dead again. I didnt like it at the time. It felt overdriven to the point of incredulity.
Marty's classics imo (in no particular order) - Goodfellas, Wolf of Wall Street, After Hours, Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, The Irishman, King of Comedy, Raging Bull
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:46 (three years ago)
Bringing Out The Dead is good - and it’s close to my heart since I watched MS film a scene from it one night for over an hour - but it’s the only one that often feels like a slog to watch.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:48 (three years ago)
Look, I think we can all agree that, if you enjoy a movie, fuck all the other noise
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:49 (three years ago)
Even if that movie is Raging Bull
"Floundering Bull: A Cinematic Fiasco"
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:00 (three years ago)
quiddities and agonies of the ILX film community
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:08 (three years ago)
i always found raging bull too offputting a prospect for all of the usual reasons but made myself sit and watch it last year and yeah no doubt there's elements that if youve seen done once youve seen done enough but im not sure the beauty and the hardness of it still dont earn it all the plaudits it tends to get, it is a capital M masterpiece that knows it in every frame
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:11 (three years ago)
I've seen raging bull several times but I should probably see it again to reconsider it.
Love Bringing out the Dead, it's definitely a weird one, off-kilter humor and a Schrader VO-laced screenplay adapted from a novel, really frenetic and colorful. I wouldn't say it necessarily always works but I've always been enthusiastic about it.
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:12 (three years ago)
xp to xxxyzzzzzz both are great, especially imo as studies of scorsese doing exactly what he does but in a different mode than he might usually do it
i still remember an ilx post about mean streets/goodfellas/casino/irishman being essentially a walk through of the mob from street level to serious players and imo it absolutely works
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:14 (three years ago)
and gangs of new york is his hobbit trilogy
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:15 (three years ago)
Its funny how DDL basically played the same character in Gangs and There Will Be Blood
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:20 (three years ago)
and my left foot
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:22 (three years ago)
and in the name of the father
one of the things I really admire about The Irishman is the genuinely bleak emptiness at the end of it, no deadpan flippancy with faux gallows humour - just: I've lived an empty, amoral, servile life and now I'm going to purchase my own coffin ... lol classic!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:26 (three years ago)
fucks sake calz no spoilers
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:45 (three years ago)
The Colour of Money is a seriously underrated one. The camera twirling around the pool table and Tom Cruise with perfect hair showing off to the sound of Werewolves of London. PURE CINEMA.
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 21:56 (three years ago)
The pure cinema of an Eric Clapton theme!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:01 (three years ago)
phew, I'm glad you were joking there d-mac. Because the whole concept of "spoilers" in movies is ABSOLUTE bollox anyway. Especially when said movie is based on stuff that might have happened more than 5 decades ago and the whole screenplay has been built around a lurid best-selling US mafia non-fiction book.
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:34 (three years ago)
mods pls pre emptively ban this man from the titanic (1997) thread
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:47 (three years ago)
spoiler: he pushes her off
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:49 (three years ago)
wringing out the dead
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:55 (three years ago)
Titanic Driver.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:56 (three years ago)
the departed
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:59 (three years ago)
I remember reading a Badshaw review of The Departed where he was hailing the dialogue in this movie as being so fucking razor-sharp - it's absolutely abysmal
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 23:11 (three years ago)