US Politics, May 2023: May 1 never happened

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my friend's father (somewhere in his mid-80's) has shingles presently and she said he looks like he's about to die and has looked like this for weeks and weeks now. my dad got it when he was in his mid-40's and he was in a huge amount of pain

I got vaxxed for this shit about a month after I turned 50.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:06 (three years ago)

okay I'm making an appointment now

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:10 (three years ago)

The first shingles vax wiped me out for a day, but I doubled it up w/ tetanus, so I think that may have caused it. The second one was comparatively milder, about the same as the vid vax. (You need to space them out by 6 months.)

henry s, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:41 (three years ago)

2-to-6 months is the official recommendation

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:42 (three years ago)

Ah yeah, that's right. I did space them out by 6 months, because lazy I guess.

henry s, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:43 (three years ago)

While we are sharing shingles stories when I was 30 I threw out my back and couldn’t move for hours and the lingering pain lasted for a week. The first 12 hours were the worst pain I ever had in my life. Then, immediately upon feeling better, I got shingles. That was the second worst pain ever ever got.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:48 (three years ago)

Book of Job 2

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:59 (three years ago)

I have a hazy memory of having chicken pox as a small child, but there's no one left who can confirm it

(or was it measles? I don't know)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:01 (three years ago)

Two Job

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:07 (three years ago)

Everybody I know who's had shingles has been totally miserable, even younger healthy people, so yeah. I really need to do that.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:18 (three years ago)

I remember our mother deliberately letting my younger sister and me go out and play with the neighbor kid who had chicken pox so we would get it and then be immune. That was the thinking in the 60s. There was no understanding then that Herpes Varicella-Zoster was a virus that continued to live in the body in the dorsal root ganglia and could be reactivated.

I got shingles around the time I turned 50. I was lucky because it only affected my upper torso on one side and my upper arm. My sister had it in her mouth and was beside herself with pain, and she still has residual side effects, mostly aphthous ulcers when she is stressed or gets sick

There was an inferior vaccine which was the only one you could get for many years before Shingrix was introduced in 2017. Shingrix was then largely unavailable for several years, I'm not sure why, maybe because of a lawsuit. I managed to get it in 2020, after requesting it for several years. It is now widely available.

I read that Feinstein got a vaccine, but wonder if it was the one from before 2017. From the looks of it, her facial nerve was affected

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:19 (three years ago)

yeah, I listened to that Conan podcast thing above, and it sounds like it fucked up the nerves in his eyes/face for years to come... he would feel weird tingles behind his eye, even years after it cleared up.
Anyway, sent a note to my doctor, begging for the vaxx

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:25 (three years ago)

okay, my HMO says I should come in and get the shot, also one for pneumonia and maybe tetanus... that should be a fun couple days

But thanks to Sen. Feinstein for getting me off my ass about this!

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:34 (three years ago)

I had my first Shringrix with those two other shots! They jabbed the Shingrix in one arm and the other two in the other arm. Both my arms hurt for a few days, and since I like to sleep on my side it was a little uncomfortable, but it was fine

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:40 (three years ago)

Lol jab-braggin: i lived in the hosp for two months and got wee shots in me belly every mornin 6:30a for blood thinning et al. I got A LOT of other shots too, just not as regular. Me and needles, big or small, we good.

Shingrix vax was not notable to me wrt side effects, I do encourage them generally if ur doc sez so.

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:51 (three years ago)

my punk name is Andy Vaxxer, might need to rethink that

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:59 (three years ago)

Shingles vaxx fucked me up more than Covid vaxx but still worth it

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:06 (three years ago)

Wow.

I'm not 50 yet. Guess I should get this eh

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:07 (three years ago)

I'm 57, I got the shingles vax a couple of years ago. Felt like I got punched in the arm, no other noticeable side effects.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:09 (three years ago)

Shingles is the absolute worst. My grandmother had it in her nethers and it basically sapped her will to live and she chose euthanasia. Horrifying. I'd have gotten the vaccine already if it weren't for not being 50

octobeard, Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:26 (three years ago)

That’s awful.

The fact that it is called “shingles” should be warning enough. Other than “piles” (which I think is more like slang actually) there may not be a less pleasant sounding ailment. (Not that ailments are under any obligation to sound pleasant.)

henry s, Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:40 (three years ago)

Piles are just hemorrhoids, easily treated if you are aware of your body

Dan S, Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:52 (three years ago)

y'all making me want to check w/ mom to see if dad's gotten his shingrix yet

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:58 (three years ago)

I got chicken pox relatively late when I was 16 and it was easily the sickest I've ever been, feverish, hallucinating, feeling like my skin was burning from head to toe. I'm led to believe that getting it late makes me more susceptible to shingles, and I'm really not into that idea, get me that vax.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:59 (three years ago)

I got it at 24 and it started in my esophagus. Almost ended up with pneumonia.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:31 (three years ago)

Adding to all this shingles talk — my mom got it in the mid 2000s. Her description of it meant that when I finally turned 50 two years back I got my first Shingrix vaccine shot almost immediately, and I would have gotten it earlier if I could. Get it ASAP if you are eligible and haven’t.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:42 (three years ago)

i got the vaxx along with a covid booster and felt more or less like shit for a day or so. second shot was standalone and my arm hurt pretty badly but no other issues so I think maybe doing it with a booster wasn't the best decision, but whatever, I lived.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:21 (three years ago)

That's basically what happened to my wife. The two together really kicked her ass.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:26 (three years ago)

So, like the COVID vax for many people then

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:32 (three years ago)

Another winning issue, no notes:

Republicans nationwide are now pushing to repeal No Fault Divorce laws. It’s. All. About. Having. Control. https://t.co/MMvyKKelgw

— Jack Hopkins (@thejackhopkins) May 5, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:55 (three years ago)

i haven't read this yet (it's 112 pages)

https://www.thebulwark.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/The-Corruption-of-Lindsey-Graham.pdf

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:42 (three years ago)

i should provide some context - it uses graham as an example of how the broader gop establishment capitulated to authoritarianism. i read about it on https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/05/the-hollow-men-2, which has excerpts. the early pages provide a good reminder of what was shocking to establishment republicans in 2015 and what they've acquiesced to.

Retributive torture.

On November 27, Trump said detainees accused of terrorism should be waterboarded even if their suffering elicited no information. “If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway,” said Trump. In a debate on February 6, 2017, he repeated’ “I would bring back waterboarding, and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

After the debate, Graham disavowed Trump's remarks. “We don't torture people,” he said. “That makes us better.”

Targeting noncombatants.

In December 2015, Trump said he would “take out” terrorists' family members, threaten the “lives” of those family members, or make them “suffer.” He said he would do this intentionally, not qust as collateral
damage (in a strike aimed at the terrorists themselves) or during interrogations to avert an imminent attack, but as “retribution” and a deterrent.

Later, when Trump was advised that the military might refuse such orders because they were illegal, he shot back’ “They're not going to refuse me. . . . If I say, "Do it", they're going to do it.”

Graham was appalled. He protested that Trump would “kill . . . innocent people” and make the United States “barbaric like our enemies.” In March and April 2016, Graham threatened not to support Trump in a general election, in part because Trump might “order our troops to commit war crimes.”

of course, Trump's views in 2015 turned out to be more representative of what conservative voters actually think - physically punishing non-believers for eternity is a pillar of the white evangelicals who are trump's my loyal supporters - and also more in line with what the US military and CIA have been doing for decades. there was a stark reminder of that published just this morning (cw: torture) https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/may/11/abu-zubaydah-drawings-guantanamo-bay-us-torture-policy

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:01 (three years ago)

Of course it's about control. Otherwise, they wouldn't care so much about what other people do.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:22 (three years ago)

I feel really bad for the future Ofsteven.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:23 (three years ago)

Every once in awhile, I'm reminded that as awful as literally everything Trump's done in his life is, he has for a very long time wanted to do far, far, far, far, far, far worse

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:25 (three years ago)

I know the intent is to evoke PATTON but all I see is the opening of FOLLOW THAT BIRD. pic.twitter.com/lQ4ETtDkPs

— Bill Chambers (@flmfrkcentral) May 1, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:45 (three years ago)

my god desantis is such a clown

c u (crüt), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:52 (three years ago)

he really is a caricature of himself, but with Paul Lynne's voice

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:56 (three years ago)

graphic designers apparently boycotting the desantis campaign (or wait, he's not actually running yet)

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:01 (three years ago)

Balanced, objective, and fair except when defending their own -- that's the Beltway press for ya.

Props to @kaitlancollins who was in an impossible position but did a heroic job of fact-checking Trump throughout the town hall. No easy task given how many factually untrue things he said in such a short time. Collins was a true pro and showed what a stellar journalist she is.

— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) May 11, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 21:14 (three years ago)

budget cut negotiations ongoing

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:07 (three years ago)

if the negotiations deliver a very small fig leaf to cover McCarthy's ass, then that could be acceptable compared to the unholy mess that a default would cause.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 12 May 2023 17:54 (three years ago)

McCarthy is asking for huge cuts, and in hindsight economists say that Obama having agreed to huge cuts , hurt job growth . Can they come up with a reduced budget that doesn't cause pain and that can get votes in both the House and the Senate?

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 May 2023 22:34 (three years ago)

Causing pain is kind of the point.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 12 May 2023 22:36 (three years ago)

.@ddayen delivering stone cold truths: "We’re in a live hostage negotiation over what level of austerity will satisfy the hostage-takers." 😩https://t.co/EUoM1AcsvQ

— Kate Donald (@Mskaydee) May 12, 2023

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 May 2023 22:41 (three years ago)

Sean Patrick Maloney and Tim Ryan, both Democratic losers of very expensive campaigns, named to the Coinbase Global Advisory council. Maloney is also now Biden’s ambassador to OECD. Versatile. pic.twitter.com/8aGwwUpatE

— Alex Sammon (@alex_sammon) May 12, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:33 (three years ago)

who the hell cares about the Cornhusker Advisory Board or whatever

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:42 (three years ago)

Debt ceiling debacle due in large part to Trump tax cuts which, no surprise, did not “pay for themselves.” Fuck McCarthy, the GOP, and anyone who votes for them.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:49 (three years ago)

I dunno, man, I think it's pretty shitty for Democratic politicians/Biden appointees to work for environment-destroying pyramid schemes. (also: FTX, Sean McElweenie, etc., lessons could perhaps be learned)

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:55 (three years ago)

Of course! I get that. But political parties employ talentless hacks to these committees/boards all the time.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:58 (three years ago)


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