HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

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wonder if the kids are still on the hook to buy pierce. do they even remember they did that?

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:21 (three years ago)

xp haha yeah that's probably it, whether there is a "second India" is immaterial, Mattson just needs to keep moving forward, like some kind of tech business shark

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:23 (three years ago)

overstating your subscriber numbers by 2x in one country doesnt seem like that big of a deal especially in a mid income country like india, but i guess we dont really know what the deal with gojo is generally

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:25 (three years ago)

granted india does contain many people

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:28 (three years ago)

maybe he lost the premiere cricket league streaming contract

mh, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:28 (three years ago)

they are wild for their cricket over there

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:29 (three years ago)

india is a nice touch, feel like it’s been a ‘growth area’ for a lot of tech companies as the tech industry matures in general and the lines on the charts do not go up as sharply anymore

it’s not very believable but neither is waystar’s stock growing b/c of a vaporware product launch either, they’re good plot devices tho if only for birthing the phrase ‘reverse viking’

, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:33 (three years ago)

one of the most perverse business moves

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:34 (three years ago)

like apple has already sold iphones to pretty much every single person in the western world so they are now focusing on india (except their phones are too expensive for india) https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-stakes-future-growth-emerging-markets-starting-with-india-2023-05-05/

, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:34 (three years ago)

Also this

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:40 (three years ago)

recall reading a while ago that phones with huge batteries were popular in india because many people dont have reliable access to electricity, obvs not the segment apple is going for but an interesting sociological nugget nevertheless

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:42 (three years ago)

speaking of iphones, there was a comment upthread about shiv using a normal ipad instead of an ipad pro… agreed i thought that was weird, there’s so much apple product placement in this show all the roys are using iphone pros with the 3 cameras, tom is using an android iirc to show he’s a hick… i’m betting it was shiv’s assistants ipad she cant be bothered to actually carry one around, it was funny tho that shot of her huge desk with a tiny ipad and keyboard on it

https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/2/26/21154151/apple-bad-guys-movies-iphones-product-placement

, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:47 (three years ago)

we’re an episode out from it but i’d be remiss to point out that living+ is clearly a wework reference, real estate play masquerading as tech with a lot of woo woo thrown on top

Mayyyyybe but it's a direct reference to the "storytelling living by Disney" project in Florida. That's why Matteson used the Mickey stand in when tweeting about it.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:04 (three years ago)

https://www.storylivingbydisney.com

Look at this shit

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:07 (three years ago)

Jfc

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:11 (three years ago)

hahah wow, you’re absolutely right. i just sort of assumed the writers invented living+, but truth is stranger than fiction right?

, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:15 (three years ago)

Just always remember Waystar is a lil Disney and a lil Fox

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:17 (three years ago)

yes, living+ cruise roots are also disney

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:17 (three years ago)

I think it's correct to read some Adam Neumann in Ken's launch, though

Enumerated funks of Walsh, Joe. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:19 (three years ago)

I think I saw one of the writers somewhere mention Microsoft announcements as inspo? Hoping for a full on Steve Balmer moment.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:20 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CVucnt46ww

disney should hire jeremy strong to redo this video, as a joke (to show they’re in on it)

, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:22 (three years ago)

that video is something i'd expect to see in the first half an hour of a horror flick where the theme is something crawls out of the lagoon and devours the town

a (waterface), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:25 (three years ago)

nobody’s said “full nut nut” for awhile, i miss full nut nut

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:33 (three years ago)

disney is a wild company lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:46 (three years ago)

theyre totally abusing the term lagoon there btw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:47 (three years ago)

Man what a hellscape

omar little, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:52 (three years ago)

I find I don't enjoy this show nearly as much without Logan in it. Sort of glad it's at its end.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:54 (three years ago)

I think I saw one of the writers somewhere mention Microsoft announcements as inspo?

he also explicitly said "and another thing" which was Jobs' famous launch line

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:00 (three years ago)

Lol I was going to say I think the shiw has almost been stronger than ever now that Logan has vacated, not addition by subtraction but a necessarily escalation of the tension and underlying hostilities between the other parties that had been held at bay due to the common enemy.

omar little, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:03 (three years ago)

logan is living+

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:05 (three years ago)

he installed himself forever in the self-image of his children

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:06 (three years ago)

https://tubitv.com/movies/447847/shivers

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:23 (three years ago)

From Starco, a division of General Structures Incorporated.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:26 (three years ago)

Minority opinion but I think this show is better if you don't try to attach things in it to specific real-world companies; Roy isn't Musk, or Neumann, or Bob Iger, or a composite of these, he's Roy

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:43 (three years ago)

I felt for Shiv during the balcony scene, when she questioned Tom’s inconsistent motivations, because I don’t think the writers have figured him out either. Nonetheless — Macfadyen always does an incredible job squaring the circle between Comedy Tom and Serious Tom

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:30 (three years ago)

Oh that's another fake show name that is super weird: Wambsgans

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:26 (three years ago)

Minority opinion but I think this show is better if you don't try to attach things in it to specific real-world companies; Roy isn't Musk, or Neumann, or Bob Iger, or a composite of these, he's Roy

Agree
Thankful I’m not up on all the comparisons / references anyway, I think it would detract from my enjoyment of it

calstars, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:37 (three years ago)

its obvs inspired by the murdochs tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:40 (three years ago)

Yeah the siblings are almost an exact match for the Murdochs. Older sibling from former marriage who has nothing to do with the business, plus two sons and a daughter sparring it out.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:44 (three years ago)

James founded Rawkus, Kendall believes himself to be extremely hip-hop.

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:50 (three years ago)

even down to kendalls rapping lol xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:50 (three years ago)

Oh that's another fake show name that is super weird: Wambsgans

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:26 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Have thought this from the start, it seems completely satirical.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:05 (three years ago)

Someone on Twitter pointed out that it might be significant that there was an obscure baseball player from the 20s or 30s who pulled off some kind of feat which involved defeating three opponents(?) - sorry about the vagueness of this post but I know nothing abt baseball and I can't find the tweet anymore. Might mean something to someone here though!

nate woolls, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:13 (three years ago)

Yep, he's named after the only player in history to pull off an unassisted triple play in the World Series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Wambsganss

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:15 (three years ago)

Zero question this was intentional and meant to foreshadow the end of s3.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:16 (three years ago)

its obvs inspired by the murdochs tho

― lag∞n, Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:40 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Again, this was not obvious to me, I know nothing about this family and I feel my viewing of Succession was enriched by not trying to map it onto those people

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:17 (three years ago)

ok

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:17 (three years ago)

“In game five of the 1920 World Series played at League Park, Wambsganss caught a fifth-inning line drive batted by Clarence Mitchell, stepped on second base to retire Pete Kilduff, and tagged Otto Miller coming from first base, to complete the only unassisted triple play in World Series history.”
Awesome but can’t see Tom in here at all

calstars, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:26 (three years ago)

the latest episode of the Know Your Enemy podcast interviewed TV writers Will Arbery (of Succession) and Dorothy Fortenberry (of Extrapolations), and at the very end the latter revealed that her husband's last name is Wambsgans.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:39 (three years ago)

Shiv as a redhead always made me think of Rebekah Brooks, who was CEO of Murdoch's News International in her thirties.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2023 04:07 (three years ago)


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