Would Anyone Still Vote Labour?

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Hilary Clinton derided it as "Chocolate milk for everybody!" when Bernie Sanders proposed it in the US. It doesn't matter how popular a policy is to these corporate ghouls.

calzino, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

Some legitimate concerns are more, er, legitimate than others.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

The Labour leader said it was “early days” for the Public Order Act, under which the group was detained for 16 hours before being released and told no charges would be brought. Rather than committing to repeal the legislation, Starmer suggested fresh guidance could make improvements amid concerns it was being used to clamp down on dissent.

“The police have obviously apologised in relation to some of those cases,” he said. “They’re a difficult judgment call, we all understand why action has to be taken in relation to Just Stop Oil and that sort of tactic but on our hand obviously we need to protect legitimate protests, so it’s a judgment call.

“They got some of those judgments wrong, as they have accepted, and I think that’s a learning experience for them, as we go forward we need to ensure there’s perhaps better guidance or something.”

the pinefox, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link

You could stop Just Stop Oil by stopping new drilling licences, no police state necessary

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

“better guidance or something”

michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

let's not be too rash to judge the embryonic UK fascist police state, it's early days yet says the unscrupulous cunt who also has history of not judging a hate mob, who were burning effigies of GRT children.

calzino, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

Well it’s not like they did anything really bad like steal some water

michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

“better guidance or something”

― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink

😬😬😬

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

The other sensible labour counter seems to be that actually many of the protesters were arrested under the policing act of last year not the public order act & it’s like no shit you gallus pricks, we want that fascist law repealed too

michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

It was a whole thing!!

michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/11/female-labour-mp-accuses-shadow-minister-of-sexual-assault

She is reluctant to make a formal complaint through Labour’s own independent complaints system, although she was encouraged to, as she felt his popularity within the party would not help her case.

This does not sound good in any way.

the pinefox, Friday, 12 May 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link

so she's basically saying Labour's independent complaints system tends to ignore serious complaints made against MP's if they are high profile front benchers, colour me surprised.

calzino, Friday, 12 May 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

For gods' sake please don't vote for this cunt

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-real-conservatives-keir-starmer-protect-way-life-2337576

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 May 2023 05:57 (one year ago) link

I always thought the only reason he didn't join the Conservative Party was a sense of embarrassment about his stupid Labour history geek name. But at least now he explains why he didn't need to do it.

calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 06:26 (one year ago) link

>>> insisting his party’s transformation will be like “Clause IV on steroids” – a reference to Sir Tony’s decision to abandon the goal of common ownership of industry – with a focus on putting communities “in charge of their own destiny” and a reformed state.

Sir Keir will offer a personal view of his own patriotism, based on understanding the “true worth of service, respect and stability” and criticise those who harbour “patronising contempt for those who fly our flag”. <<<

the pinefox, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:00 (one year ago) link

Would anyone actually say "I'm going to do [X] - on steroids!" ?

Only KS.

the pinefox, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:01 (one year ago) link

"I'm going to do the Olympic 100 metres final on steroids."

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:18 (one year ago) link

:D

the pinefox, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:32 (one year ago) link

"on steroids" in this case really means all the most negative and reactionary aspects of New Labour but this time not propping up poverty wages with tax credits and fully committed to the austerity consensus, so not dissimilar to the May govt. Which Tory govts of the last decade are the *real* conservatives is a more of a pertinent question for the DM and Con Home, it shouldn't be a pitch made a year before a GE by the leader of a supposed party of Labour. Grim times for democracy.

calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:48 (one year ago) link

He’s like Theresa May on Imodium

michel goindry (wins), Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:01 (one year ago) link

lol, Theresa May - without the charisma

calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:04 (one year ago) link

I saw a Kieth supporter responding to Tory twitter taunts about the sexual assault by one of the shadow cabinet and lack of action taken thereof, and they responded with "but what about the rapist in the Tory party, eh?"

calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link

He's a cunt like (most of) the rest of his party

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link

xp i saw that too calz. tell me you don't care about sexual violence without telling me etc

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:59 (one year ago) link

lol, nice juxtaposition there

calzino, Friday, 26 May 2023 15:20 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

It was great to catch up with my friend @CondoleezzaRice to discuss China, Ukraine and the Global South at this moment of huge geopolitical change. pic.twitter.com/Nl5Qd4hhTP

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) September 7, 2023

the pinefox, Friday, 8 September 2023 14:12 (eight months ago) link

it's a club and we're not in it

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 September 2023 14:13 (eight months ago) link


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