U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Ginsburg Edition

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I haven’t dug into the facts of the case to see if she blocked the guy and he somehow created another account and continued to stalk her

curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:13 (three years ago)

So a stalking victim should lighten up and holla back but if the wrong person pulls into your driveway you can murder them.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 23 April 2023 16:07 (three years ago)

x-post back to Alito dissent-

Law Professor Vladeck substack excerpt:

But then there’s the bolded passage—and the remarkable assertion that “the Government has not dispelled legitimate doubts that it would even obey an unfavorable order in these cases.” You’ll note that Alito cites to precisely zero authority either for the “legitimate doubts” or for the government somehow having an obligation to “dispel” those doubts. Yes, members of Congress (from both parties) have suggested that the Biden administration shouldn’t follow an adverse ruling in the mifepristone case. But not only has no one in the executive branch even hinted that such a move was remotely in the cards; the White House specifically poured cold water on the idea. Near as I can tell, it’s been 162 years since the last time a President directly ignored a court order—and, right-wing fever dreams notwithstanding, I don’t exactly see President Biden or Attorney General Garland as likely heirs to the Merryman precedent.

Against that backdrop, it’s hard to imagine where Justice Alito got these “legitimate doubts” from (except, perhaps, right-wing media). Suffice it to say, before a Supreme Court Justice (let alone one with prior executive branch experience) publicly levels such a charge against the incumbent administration, it might behoove them to provide some evidentiary support.

https://stevevladeck.substack.com/p/24-justice-alito-and-the-shadow-docket?r=2k6pc&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 04:00 (three years ago)

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/04/samuel-alito-is-not-mad-do-not-write-that-he-was-mad

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:02 (three years ago)

Nine days after Gorsuch was appointed to the Supreme Court, the head of Greenberg Traurig—a major law firm that’s before the Court all the time—bought land he’d been trying to sell for two years. Gorsuch did not report the identity of the purchaser. https://t.co/P4WH4VNnps

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) April 25, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 12:20 (three years ago)

Dem Judiciary committee chair Durbin probably won't subpoena Gorsuch to testify for same lame reason he just offered for not subpoena'ing Thomas

NEW: Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Dick Durbin says he didn't invite Justice Clarence Thomas to testify re ethics because he thought Thomas would ignore the invitation. via @KellyGarrity3 https://t.co/DRbtBr2jvA

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) April 23, 2023

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 13:02 (three years ago)

Just good old fashioned log rolling.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 13:55 (three years ago)

durbin sucks badly but every single democrat should be railing on the blatantly corrupt supreme court

z_tbd, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:43 (three years ago)

BREAKING: Chief Justice Roberts declines Senator Durbin’s invitation to testify before the senate judiciary committee pic.twitter.com/aiG2OE4iQq

— Steven Mazie (@stevenmazie) April 25, 2023

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:21 (three years ago)

That's a lot of words to say "fuck you I won't do what you tell me"

pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:25 (three years ago)

I'm shocked.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:31 (three years ago)

Just great, as they say.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:35 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgttPt_1IG0

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:37 (three years ago)

It all comes down to the fact that the SCOTUS can ignore any attempt by Congress to control any aspect of their conduct, short of impeachment -- and a successful impeachment is politically impossible at present.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 04:34 (three years ago)

The irony is that the lifetime appointments and the protection from interference were designed to foster independence, but like everything else "norm" based these days it's curdled and lead to the opposite effect, corruption with no consequence.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:08 (three years ago)

The very careful "We must soberly respect precedent, this has not happened since 1821, please see my 87 footnotes" kind of shit is very very calibrated to give the sense that there are norms. And that there is any kind of continuity between today's Supreme Court and previous ones.

I am sitting and typing on land that has seen several civil wars (including the famous one) featuring torrents of literal bloodshed so I know this is not new bullshit. But it is, still. manifestly, bullshit.

The Court can decide to adapt and evolve. But it can also decide not to. And it can also decide to do what is most in line with its preexisting ideological stances, then retroactively sanctify those stances as dogma.

Clearly, this court has decided to do what is most politically convenient for the (current and temporary) majority, and cloak it in sanctified terms.

In the near term, I assume that the GOP-appointed and GOP-manipulated majority will use its vaunted independence to do hideous things. We can hope for unlikely reform, and we can also hope that the distant future offers at least a glimmer of improvement.

pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:48 (three years ago)

We can also hope that the GOP SCOTUS majority dies in a hideous house fire.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:49 (three years ago)

in a hideous IHOP fire

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:51 (three years ago)

I live in the DC area and slightly know the Scalia kids. Not saying I can make that happen, but also not NOT saying it.

pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:51 (three years ago)

Alito looks like the sort of guy who loves a good steak cooked to perfection at IHOP for dinner.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:53 (three years ago)

cooks probably knew who it was for and put arsenic in it

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:55 (three years ago)

only the food runner accidentally brought it to Dan Bongino's table

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:55 (three years ago)

A new statement signed by all nine Supreme Court justices stressing their commitment to ethics principles has come under immediate fire for failing to respond to recent calls for the court to adopt a binding code of conduct.

...Sens. Angus King, I-Maine, and Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, said Wednesday they will introduce legislation to require the court to create its own code of conduct, as well as appoint an official to review public complaints and publish annual reports disclosing them. A similar bill had already been introduced by Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-draws-fire-ethics-inaction-rcna81544?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=64497839842be500017b3ef7&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:07 (three years ago)

...which the current justices will no doubt answer with an elaborately worded "fuck you I won't do what you tell me."

All shrouded in legalese about historical precedent and checkas and balances and coequal blah blah but still amounting to a gigantic middle finger.

Like, okay, it's so very cute that you want to make a law about us. Good luck enforcing it because the case would inevitably come to... us. We who have already said "fuck you I won't do what you tell me."

I am manifestly not a fan of absolute monarchy but this is the kind of shit where I would secretly kinda love it if there were a grownup who could just step in and tell people to stop being whiny-ass toddlers and just be better.

Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:17 (three years ago)

which the current justices will no doubt answer with an elaborately worded "fuck you I won't do what you tell me."

What we need is the appointment of an independent-minded wonk equally versed in policy, optics and Rage Against the Machine. Wait, I know just the person!

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/1e2/658/97214dcde5465d5180e2ff718c8b30060e-1----.rsocial.w1200.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:40 (three years ago)

just looked up ryan's post-congressional life, and yeah, he's still one of the 8 people on the board of directors at fox corporation

z_tbd, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:44 (three years ago)

I might be crazy, but I think we're going to see further ethics requirements imposed upon the SC. All of them were subject to the Code of Conduct for United States Judges before they were elevated to the Supreme Court, so the logical next step is to apply that or portions of that to the Supreme Court: https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:47 (three years ago)

dow posted this link over on the us politics thread: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-draws-fire-ethics-inaction-rcna81544

it seems likely that the roberts court will continue to oppose any kind of accountability

z_tbd, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:49 (three years ago)

What if such imposed ethics requirements were ruled ... unconstitutional?
https://durrellbowman.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/the-piranha-brothers.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:49 (three years ago)

Many xps but Blbackwards-hatted buff/swole Ryan memeage will never die.

I am okay with that. That dude needs to be savagely mocked to the grave.

(Sidenote: remember when he said that his music taste ranged from AC/DC to Zeppelin? It was a decently cute line in the moment, granted. But no one really alphabetized their music this way. Led Zeppelin is alphabetized under L, not Z, you fucking psychopath.

It's as bad as shelving "Jane Eyre" under E or "Mrs. Dalloway" under D. Sheesh. Are there literally no Republican librarians?

Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:55 (three years ago)

he's probably so dumb he thought Led Zeppelin was a person.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:57 (three years ago)

it seems likely that the roberts court will continue to oppose any kind of accountability

I am shocked at this

This is my shocked face

Nah, never mind, I am not in the least bit shocked

Carry on

Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:58 (three years ago)

Neanderthal: by the way, which one's Pink?

Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:59 (three years ago)

🚨🚨🚨SCOOP: New whistleblower docs show Jane Roberts, who is married to SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts, made $10.3 million placing lawyers at elite firms — https://t.co/uB82RgJ8YC

— Mattathias Schwartz (@Schwartzesque) April 28, 2023

More details on Justice Roberts wife profit taking and he not recusing himself

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 April 2023 22:58 (three years ago)

Click on the story to see the line-item spreadsheet of her commissions.

At least one of the firms that paid Jane Roberts — WilmerHale — later argued before SCOTUS. John Roberts did not recuse, and voted in favor of WH’s client.

— Mattathias Schwartz (@Schwartzesque) April 28, 2023

Seems bad

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 April 2023 22:59 (three years ago)

I have a feeling there is probably a, erm, bipartisan desire to not look to deeply into the court's ethical history

k3vin k., Friday, 28 April 2023 23:03 (three years ago)

Never thought I'd be into Business Insider but they seem like real muckrakers these days

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 April 2023 23:13 (three years ago)

X-post - you can make generic both sides allegations about ethics issues with no evidence , but the Republicans with a 6-3 majority have no interest in new ethics rules now, and no one in the press has come up with allegations against the 3 Dem nominated Justices. Yes, the 9 Justices signed together, but that may be due to pressure from Chief Justice

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 April 2023 23:47 (three years ago)

Paul Ryan, who thought that the Path to Prosperity should be built on the bones of the sick and the old, is now being presented as the voice of moderation and an independent-minded wonk.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 29 April 2023 00:32 (three years ago)

he's probably so dumb he thought Led Zeppelin was a person.

My ... let's see, my wife's cousin's husband? Anyway, my wife's cousin's husband went to college with Paul Ryan. Apparently they were partnered up for some project in I can't remember what class (my wife's cousin's husband might have picked Paul Ryan because he was cute), and as they were gearing up for the final presentation, Paul Ryan came up to him and said (very paraphrasing) "look, you are getting an A in this class because you are a hard worker. In fact, I know you will do all the work necessary to get an A in this class whether I help out or not. Since I'm not as good at this as you are, and probably won't get an A no matter how we do on this project, why don't you just do all the work without me so that I don't get in your way?"

Pretty sure that's Socialism.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 01:04 (three years ago)

being presented as the voice of moderation and an independent-minded wonk

when your peer group is busily endorsing Q-Anon theories, embracing Jan 6 rioters as true patriots, and posing for Xmas cards with all the members of their family gleefully brandishing semi-automatic weapons, then simply by avoiding these activities the media will gladly do the rest of the work for you.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 29 April 2023 01:33 (three years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/28/alito-leaker-dobbs-wsj/

good news - the dobbs leaker definitely wasn't alito, says alito

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. said in an interview earlier this month that he has a “pretty good idea” who leaked his draft Supreme Court opinion that overturned Roe v. Wade and its constitutional right to abortion last year, but that neither he nor the court can prove it.

...“I personally have a pretty good idea who is responsible, but that’s different from the level of proof that is needed to name somebody,” Alito said, according to the story published online Friday. He said he was sure the leak “was a part of an effort to prevent the Dobbs draft … from becoming the decision of the court. And that’s how it was used for those six weeks by people on the outside — as part of the campaign to try to intimidate the court.”

Alito said the theory that the draft was leaked by someone on the right to lock in the five votes necessary to overturn Roe “is infuriating to me.”

“Look, this made us targets of assassination,” Alito told his interviewers. “Would I do that to myself? Would the five of us have done that to ourselves? It’s quite implausible.”

...
Without commenting on Thomas, Alito said he believes that reports about alleged ethical violations by justices are attempts to damage the court’s credibility now that conservatives are firmly in control. “We are being hammered daily, and I think quite unfairly in a lot of instances. And nobody, practically nobody, is defending us,” he said.

“And then those who are attacking us say, ‘Look how unpopular they are. Look how low their approval rating has sunk.’” Alito said. “Well, yeah, what do you expect when you’re — day in and day out, ‘They’re illegitimate. They’re engaging in all sorts of unethical conduct. They’re doing this, they’re doing that’?”

breaking: alito a whiny prick, sucks

z_tbd, Saturday, 29 April 2023 16:44 (three years ago)

The poor quality of his reasoning just rises off those statements like the 'stink waves' off a cartoon of a pile of shit. This man has zero awareness of how he sounds to others, because anyone who disagrees with him is not worthy of his notice.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:36 (three years ago)

Yeah, he's so bad and dumb and punchable.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:38 (three years ago)

That last paragraph I quoted…jfc. I mean, I am very forgiving of poor reasoning, I do it all the time myself, it’s a very human quality, we all do it sometimes. However he’s a fucking sc justice, he is supposed to be good at things like understanding cause and effect

z_tbd, Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:46 (three years ago)

zach, they're doing this and doing that

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 April 2023 19:00 (three years ago)

Agreed obv. Dude offers an unsubstantiated theory that just so happens to align with his political alliances. That’s the kind of reasoning I’d use but I am not a USSC Justice.

He is bad and deserves to be hated.

tobo73, Saturday, 29 April 2023 19:38 (three years ago)

i was fine with doing this

it was when they started doing that

z_tbd, Saturday, 29 April 2023 20:50 (three years ago)

Doing this and signing that

The Lubitsch Touchscreen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 April 2023 20:58 (three years ago)

In his recent dissent in the abortion pill case, he suggested with no citation or support that the Justice Department was going to refuse to enforce the Trump appointed district judge opinion if the Supreme Court upheld it. Alito’s just a Fox watching conspiracy theorist but with lots of power

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 April 2023 18:32 (three years ago)


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