Things you were shockingly old when you learned

For the past 45 years, I've thought it was Lucille Ball. I am shockingly old to have learned different.

TIL that there's a woman on the cover of Led Zeppelin II! (When I first encountered the album as a kid, I focused on the four members of LZ and didn't pay any attention at all to the other people.)

Here is the album cover side by side with the photo from which it was taken

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b0T05NgBjPc/U6sIBxegFDI/AAAAAAAAC4Q/4bjEO9o9WjY/s1600/Led+Zeppelin+II+Album+Cover+1969.jpg

Who are the other people on the cover I wonder?

Thats the Red Baron sat in the cockpit of the plane iirc xp

I always thought it was Led Zep hanging with some Hells Angels

(xp) Always thought it was Desi Arnaz.

I think they mostly just added facial hair and sunglasses to the other four.

It's Christopher Lee, James Coburn and Michael Parkinson

first time i saw it as a kid (on my stepmother's 8-track!) i assumed everyone on the cover was in the group, and i was like dang that is one big, tough-looking band

I definitely never realized that their faces were just pasted in there

same

also xxp that is amazing, ty

I think the first physical LZ release I saw was also an 8-track, circa 1975

LZII was the second album of theirs I bought (after HoTH). The label on side 1 was off-center, so the end of "Thank You" had an added "tsss . . . tsss . . . tsss." I can still hear it, even in digital format.

It's Christopher Lee, James Coburn and Michael Parkinson

Joe Cocker sang the co-lead on "Up Where We Belong"

The Louvin Brothers and John D. Loudermilk were cousins (the Louvins' real name was Loudermilk).

!

I knew this but not surprised others are shockingly old when they learn it.

Joe Cocker sang the co-lead on "Up Where We Belong"

among his many crimes

I didn't realize until about a year ago that the chorus of Run-DMC "It's Tricky" was interpolating the chant from Toni Basil "Hey Mickey"[...]

— jay smooth (@jsmooth995) September 3, 2018

Me, last week

It me as well.

yeah, despite hearing both songs a million times since I was a child, this somehow never occurred to me

Similarly I recently realised that on Money For Nothing, Sting sings “I want my MTV" to the tune of Don't Stand So Close To Me. Is this common knowledge to other people?

Turns out I am entirely deaf to tunes being reused elsewhere. Thanks, these last couple of posts, for blowing my mind.

I had no idea about both “Money For Nothing”/“Don’t Stand So Close” nor “It’s Tricky”/“Mickey” until just now.

It was a dirty trick by Sting, since he later got royalties and songwriting credit for that.

Wikipedia says that Knopfler wrote that line with that melody, thought it would be funny if Sting sung it so he asked him and he agreed.

And MTV used that bit as an ident for I don't know how long. Did they share the perf monies?

Sting blames his publishing company. OK, Sting.

the Wise Man in Army of Darkness is Pitt from Seinfeld

Today I learned that Sting sings the "I want my MTV" parts of "Money For Nothing"

That's shocking.

LOL indeed

I mean, that song is a bit before my time and I never paid much attention to it (I remember seeing and liking the video as a kid though). I guess it would be super obvious and well known to people ~3 years older than me.

i listened to it absolutely loads as a kid and never knew until now!

Sting singing it with Dire Straits at Live Aid kinda spelled it out, but only at the time — it’s not a performance many have regularly referenced or returned to in the years since.

If you listen to the album version, you can hear Sting doing some extremely in character vamping during the fade out.

"Stew Copeland's
An asshole
That prick is
Dead to me"

Willie Nelson’s name is Willie. It’s not short for William or Willard or anything. So that means 90 years ago there was a newborn baby named Willie Nelson. Happy birthday @WillieNelson

— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) April 29, 2023

Damn, I did not know that! Thanks Josh and by extension Jason.

One of my childhood friends was named Max (pointedly NOT Maxwell) but he is also a professional actor whose stage name is Maxwell, for sonic reasons.

I love that and Stevie being short for "Steveland" re: Stevie Wonder

ditto Frank Zappa, he thought his name was "Francesco" but it turned out to just be "Frank" on his birth certificate

I love when pretentious people in convo try to be faux-professional and calling celebrities by their perceived full name, only to get it wildly wrong when the celebrity's name either isn't short for anything or isn't short for what they thought it was

Mickstopher Jagger

Pinktopolous McFloydison

I find it funny that songwriter Fred Ebb of Kander and Ebb was just named Fred Ebb. No middle name. Just a seven letter full name.

In the fictional realm, I’ve noticed that Bobby Ewing on Dallas is just a Bobby, no one calls him Robert, and on official documents his name just reads Bobby.

Also J.R.s name was actually pronounced JER

Jerry Tolkien