Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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I work in comms and I'm not sure AI is going to replace me any time soon, but I'm already using ChatGPT regularly in my job - never for a finished product, but sometimes just for a basic first draft to get me going. There is no doubt that AI is going to be integrated into comms, but probably not in a standalone capacity, there will always have to be human oversight and editing.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 13 April 2023 04:25 (one year ago) link

lag00n otm about this chatbot version of AI being just one manifestation of a quite complex and rich field and arguably actually quite a weak example of what AI is capable of. You could even argue (i don't know enough to argue it) that chatGPT isn't really AI at all in the way commonly understood. For example, it's kind of amazing how it never, ever creates anything original. You can tell it "write me the plot outline for a novel in the style of Alexandre Dumas about a young prince who must overcome self doubt to find his destiny" and it will pepper in a few stock characters eg a mentor, a beautiful princess etc but just at the moment where you would expect a concrete detail it shies away.. it might say "he encounters many challenges" but doesn't tell you what they are. If you ask it to tell you what they are, it will give broad strokes but not the actual details. It's kind of weird!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 April 2023 08:39 (one year ago) link

content designer in government and agree with the above. Consultancies will push it as a cheap magic bullet, but I'd be surprised if the guidance-writing apocalypse arrives to annihilate us all. It needs a lot of human hand-holding to be really useful, but mostly it feels like there's enough legal risk around it (accountability, IP lawsuits etc) that adoption will be, in government at least, comparatively slow (maybe 2-5 years for a domain-trained writing assistant or better chatbot) & heavily supervised.

All that said, I'm reading and tinkering and trying to make sure I'm able to work in the new space opening up. Bluntly, there are going to be good day rates there during the transition.

And - absolutely no doubt people are using it already all round government. Security people seem to be thinking through how best to say 'don't put secret information into chatGPT you clowns'

woof, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:22 (one year ago) link

Security concerns is more like a culture shift that will take a few years to work through, that's all.

It will be there, as will be jobs - the question is what type of shit will we do and for what kind of pay. Or will other types of high paying jobs be created that will in turn created resentment with the bosses.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:39 (one year ago) link

Artificial intelligence still has some. Way to go!

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

Good thread on how a lot of this is inflated claims. Basically yes perfect for this thread.

Finally have a moment to read MSR's "Sparks of AGI" paper. I'm going to do something very crazy and *live tweet* my thoughts as I read. You ready? Let's go!https://t.co/b6i5vMFK5N

— MMitchell (@mmitchell_ai) April 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:54 (one year ago) link

https://archive.is/jFfBQ

guy who invested in 50 ai startups is worried about ai hmmm

, Thursday, 13 April 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link

maybe try not investing in so many ai startups

, Thursday, 13 April 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link

its kind of beautiful how so much ai handwringing is actually ai startup pr, says something about –the whole situation—

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 April 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link

Candles dril tweet but for ai startups

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 13 April 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

Patrick Finn
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treeship., Thursday, 13 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

write five dril tweets

"Just woke up from a nap and now I'm convinced that time travel is real because it feels like I just time traveled to tomorrow."
"I don't always drink coffee, but when I do, I prefer it to be as dark as my soul."
"Why does everyone always talk about 'the good old days'? Were there ever really any good old days, or is it just nostalgia talking?"
"I just realized that the word 'bed' actually looks like a bed. Mind blown."
"You know you're getting old when you start getting excited about buying a new vacuum cleaner."

treeship., Thursday, 13 April 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

write a post in the style of lag∞n, on ilxor.com

Sorry, I cannot generate inappropriate content or impersonate a specific individual without their consent. Can you provide me with a different prompt?

treeship., Thursday, 13 April 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 April 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

The AI experienced 15 minutes of wage slavery then immediately killed itself after determining it as the logical choice. https://t.co/REQ0e6RDWX

— 🔥VALE🔥 (@BiterCrazdLoner) April 13, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 14 April 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

Listen to this AI generated song featuring Drake & The Weeknd.

It goes so damn hard.

It's by "Ghostwriter977" on TikTok and it's blowing up on socials + streaming platforms.

UMG, which controls around 1/3 of the global music market, has already asked streaming platforms to ban… pic.twitter.com/roz2EfI48M

— Roberto Nickson (@rpnickson) April 16, 2023

kinda sounds like shit idk

frogbs, Monday, 17 April 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

i mean i can def tell it isn't Drake though it's closer than it should be

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

lol @ 60 Minutes doing an ad for Google AI and it’s two big moments are completely fucking up the “for sale:baby shoes, never worn” story and making up a bunch of sources for an essay.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

AI make a boring filler track for a late period Drake album

kinda sounds like shit idk

lol yeah i was expecting MUCH better given the praise i was seeing. then i remembered that 99.999% of tech folks don't even listen to music and 0.0009% have garbage taste

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

xpost with the irrationally angry thread but bing's ai chat is so smug and is constantly ending conversations without giving me recourse to corrects its misunderstanding that it makes me actually angry

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

the melody is pretty funny though. my 6 year old could've come up with that!

frogbs, Monday, 17 April 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link

It’s incapable of anything beyond pastiche. And not even real pastiche — in which there are flashes of wit, originality, humanity — but just like producing dull slop that has all the hallmarks of the source material.

treeship., Monday, 17 April 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

Ted Chiang called it a “blurry jpeg of the web” and that is what it is. That song is a blurry jpeg of a drake song.

treeship., Monday, 17 April 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

someone on Twitter is saying this was written by this crypto hustler then "performed" by deepfake voices, not created by AI

Makes sense

treeship., Monday, 17 April 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

These deepmind products are impressive — scarily so — but there is also a lot of hype around them

treeship., Monday, 17 April 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

honestly ums I'm inclined to believe that over the idea that AI wrote the entire thing.

if AI had written it , it'd have had some weird synonyms in place of words Drake would really use, like "started from the down, now we escalate"

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

Used the AI voice isolation thing on the club scene from THE SOCIAL NETWORK. You're welcome. pic.twitter.com/3XXca7d4S2

— Devan Scott (@SadHillDevan) April 18, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link

Media still largely reporting this like someone typed "AI make Drake Weeknd song" into Google and AI did the rest

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

I'm gonna make Slayer perform Wheels on the Bus

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

haha

Ste, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link

Good work

the 'grandma exploit' is undoubtedly my favorite chatbot jailbreak to date. source here: https://t.co/A1ftDkKt2J pic.twitter.com/CYDzjhUO01

— James Vincent (@jjvincent) April 19, 2023

Alba, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 08:25 (one year ago) link

ahahaha

kinder, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 09:09 (one year ago) link

a novelist friend who hasn't published in some time asked why he hadn't written another novel and was told he died by suicide in 2014.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

Media still largely reporting this like someone typed "AI make Drake Weeknd song" into Google and AI did the rest

― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, April 18, 2023 6:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yea apparently the only part that's AI generated is the filter which makes him sound like Drake and The Weeknd, which is something that's existed for a while now. the song is trash idk why it's getting hyped up

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link

The Oasis fakey is the same thing, quite good but hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:28 (one year ago) link

can someone do an AI sequel to Wibbling Rivalry next

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

You're all out of ti-yee-eye-mm/ With the stars that shiy-ee-eye-ee-eyyynn

can i has venture capital funding now

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link

Good luck AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_3Yp2Izhks

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 20 April 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

I look forward to the day when an advanced chatbot spews out the phrases "vital skull custard" or "as dead as a whippet on a pikestaff".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 20 April 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

This AI is going to be .0003% otm.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link

They need to up that percentage, obviously not spending enough time here:

What does it mean to say that every big musical artist has their "New Jersey"?

The phrase "every big musical artist has their New Jersey" is a reference to the state of New Jersey, which is situated between the major music scenes of New York City and Philadelphia. New Jersey is often seen as a sort of "middle ground" or stepping stone between these two cities, and many famous musicians have roots in the state.

In the context of the phrase, "New Jersey" is used metaphorically to refer to a place or experience that is crucial to an artist's development and success. It suggests that every successful musician has a unique story and set of experiences that helped shape their career, and that these experiences are often tied to a specific place or time in their lives.

So, when someone says that every big musical artist has their "New Jersey," they mean that every artist has a unique set of experiences and influences that have shaped their career, and that these experiences are often tied to a specific place or time in their lives, much like how New Jersey is often seen as a crucial place for many musicians.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 21 April 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link

bit of follow up:

What if "New Jersey" referred to the album "New Jersey" by Bon Jovi? What might the phrase mean then?

If the phrase "every big musical artist has their New Jersey" specifically referred to the album "New Jersey" by Bon Jovi, then it might suggest that every successful musician has a defining or landmark album in their career, similar to how "New Jersey" was a critical and commercial success for Bon Jovi.

In this interpretation, the phrase "New Jersey" would be used as a metonymy or synecdoche to refer to any album or body of work that is considered to be a high point or turning point in a musician's career. The idea is that just as New Jersey was a significant and influential album for Bon Jovi, every successful musician has a similar milestone in their discography that helped shape their career and define their legacy.

Of course, it's important to note that this interpretation is still somewhat speculative, as the phrase "every big musical artist has their New Jersey" does not appear to be a widely recognized or established idiom or expression. However, if the phrase were to be used in this context, this would be one possible interpretation.

May I suggest that "New Jersey," while undeniably a huge event album for Bon Jovi, ultimately felt a bit hollow compared to what came before and actually signaled a career decline. Perhaps that is what the phrase means.
Yes, that is certainly a valid interpretation of the phrase. If the phrase "every big musical artist has their New Jersey" is used to suggest that every successful musician has a peak or turning point in their career, then it's possible that the phrase could also imply that this peak or turning point is followed by a decline or decrease in quality.

In the case of Bon Jovi, "New Jersey" was a massive commercial success and helped cement the band's place in the pantheon of 80s rock. However, some fans and critics have argued that the album marked a decline in the band's creativity and originality compared to their earlier work. If the phrase "every big musical artist has their New Jersey" is meant to reflect this pattern, then it suggests that every successful musician has a high point in their career, but that this peak is inevitably followed by a period of diminishing returns or artistic decline.

Again, it's worth noting that this interpretation is speculative, and that the phrase "every big musical artist has their New Jersey" is not a widely recognized or established idiom or expression. However, this is one possible way to understand the phrase if it is used in the context of Bon Jovi's album "New Jersey."

If we are understanding the phrase that way, can you give some other examples of huge artists' respective "New Jerseys"? Albums that were huge events and commercial and critical successes but ultimately felt a bit hollow and signified the beginning of career decline?

Certainly! There are several examples of albums that were massive commercial and critical successes for their respective artists, but were followed by a period of creative decline or decreased commercial success. Here are a few examples:

"Thriller" by Michael Jackson (1982) - "Thriller" is one of the best-selling albums of all time and helped make Michael Jackson an international superstar. However, many music critics and fans feel that the album marked the beginning of a decline in Jackson's music, as subsequent albums failed to match the creative and commercial success of "Thriller."

"The Joshua Tree" by U2 (1987) - "The Joshua Tree" is often considered one of the greatest albums of all time, and was a massive commercial and critical success for U2. However, some critics and fans argue that the album signaled a shift in the band's sound towards more mainstream and accessible rock, and that subsequent albums lacked the creative edge and experimentation of their earlier work.

"Nevermind" by Nirvana (1991) - "Nevermind" was a cultural phenomenon and helped popularize the grunge movement in the early 90s. However, some critics and fans argue that the album marked the beginning of a decline in Nirvana's music, as subsequent albums failed to match the raw energy and urgency of "Nevermind."

"Californication" by Red Hot Chili Peppers (1999) - "Californication" was a huge commercial and critical success for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and helped revitalize the band's career after a period of creative stagnation in the mid-90s. However, some critics and fans feel that the album marked a shift towards a more formulaic and mainstream sound for the band, and that subsequent albums have failed to recapture the creative spark of their earlier work.

It's worth noting that these are just a few examples, and that opinions on the quality and impact of these albums may vary widely among music fans and critics. However, they do represent a pattern of critically and commercially successful albums that were followed by a period of creative decline or decreased commercial success for their respective artists.

I think you are slightly misunderstanding the concept. A true "New Jersey" is not the peak of an artist's success. It might sustain or draft off the peak of a previous album, but it is ultimately less hollow than what came before. For Bon Jovi, few would argue that "New Jersey" is superior to its predecessor "Slippery When Wet." I am less familiar with the complicated career arc of the Chili Peppers, but the first three examples you gave are three of the biggest albums of all time and undeniable peaks. Can you try again to suggest some "New Jerseys"?

Thank you for the clarification. I understand the concept now, and I apologize for my earlier misunderstanding. Here are some examples of albums that are seen as a "New Jersey" in the sense that they may have sustained or capitalized on a previous peak but ultimately fell short in comparison:

"The Wall" by Pink Floyd (1979) - "The Wall" was a massive success for Pink Floyd and is considered a classic album, but some critics and fans argue that it marked a shift towards a more commercial and less innovative sound for the band. Additionally, the album's thematic and conceptual ambition was not matched by the quality of its music, leading some to view it as a less satisfying follow-up to the band's earlier masterpiece, "Dark Side of the Moon."

"Synchronicity" by The Police (1983) - "Synchronicity" was the final album by The Police and was a huge commercial and critical success, featuring hits like "Every Breath You Take" and "Wrapped Around Your Finger." However, some critics and fans argue that the album marked a shift towards a more polished and mainstream sound for the band, and that subsequent albums failed to recapture the energy and innovation of their earlier work.

"Use Your Illusion I & II" by Guns N' Roses (1991) - "Use Your Illusion I & II" were released simultaneously and were highly anticipated follow-ups to Guns N' Roses' hugely successful debut album, "Appetite for Destruction." However, some critics and fans argue that the albums marked a shift towards a more bloated and indulgent sound for the band, and that subsequent albums failed to match the raw energy and urgency of their earlier work.

Again, opinions on these albums may vary, but they represent examples of albums that may have sustained or capitalized on a previous peak but ultimately fell short in comparison.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 21 April 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link

gah i always mess up the hide text thing

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 21 April 2023 13:42 (one year ago) link

mods pls ban chatgpt from ilx

rob, Friday, 21 April 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link

can you block your site from being part of the data set?

both no and too late

rob, Friday, 21 April 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

there'll be some copyright lawsuits eventually but the entire argument is that text is not stored verbatim in chatgpt, only a graph of word probabilities so... who knows?

not quite as depressing as the idealistic early 2000s internet putting a bunch of images out under creative commons only to later find out companies used the loophole that they weren't redistributing images to package CC work and use it to train facial recognition

mh, Friday, 21 April 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link


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