Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

don't think he'd be suited to something so english tbh

Elephant Man was great though.

I would love to see another David Lynch SF film, especially if it was one that he created completely from scratch rather than based on a novel.

It'd be rad if he made Ender's Game and Michael Anderson was Ender.

and in the future of Ender's Game, everyone eats only creamed corn, and they eat it in the most disgusting manner possible.

Many x-posts, but Duwayne Dunham said in a commentary on the season one DVD set that he was called in to edit the pilot because David was editing Wild at Heart simultaneously and needed the extra help. That, and the other stuff mentioned upthread, really puts to bed the whole "Wild at Heart led to Twin Peaks downturn" theory, for me.

iirc in Lynch on Lynch he said that he kind of relinquished control over the direction of the series because the network pressured them to solve the mystery of Laura's murder prematurely and it screwed up the whole structure and momentum of the story. i seem to remember him specifically saying that when Agent Cooper took off his suit (and started wearing flannel,) that's when he ceased to be Agent Cooper.

though i think he qualified it by saying "for me" that's when he ceased to be Agent Cooper.

It's so strange that the network pressured them to solve the murder-- it was the engine of the show, and they hadn't even done that many season 2 episodes yet! Even if the ratings were disappointing, come on! That reveal should at least wait until the end of season 2.

I remember reading the original Harley Peyton outlines for the final episode before Lynch decided he was directing himself and hacked it up to focus on Black Lodge/Man From Another Place - at this point is was very Windom Earle-centric - and by christ it was a car crash. Read like Basil Woolverton drawing Wile E Coyote.

It's so strange that the network pressured them to solve the murder-

ABC propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBFklkOSibo

it's amazing they would ambush one of their own shows like this!

7 episodes? That's the patience level?

So dumb that they use The Fugitive as a contrast, as if that show didn't set the standard for stringing viewers along year after year.

"more weird plot twists than the Today Show" lol (assuming that's a reference to Pauley/Norville drama).

aside from the propaganda aspect, which is unforgivable, the whole tone of that piece is so glib and condescending. fuck tv journalists.

"You brought all that grease into the house today and you spilt some on my cotton balls."

I've just started Season 2 and am finding it very frightening. Those first two episodes are properly scary.

Donna Hayward's mom was on Top Chef tonight, the remaining chefs cooked for her daughter Zooey.

Something i've wondered about since i watched the Season 2 DVDs: was Windom a direct ripoff of Hannibal Lector or was that "intelligent serial killer" bullshit just flying around at the time? I see that the Windom episodes started a bit before the SotL movie was released.

100 Stupid Movies About Ridiculously Improbable Serial Killers

Episode 14, oh my.

still re-watching the series. we hit the first episode of season 2 last night and i was like "oh yeah, that's what i remember twin peaks being like." the weirdness of pretty much everyone's performance gets cranked up, it's so much more entertaining that most of season 1 (along with some genuinely disturbing shit).

yeah give it a couple episodes

it's a labour of love in the middle, kind of. but then when you think about it after it is fairly amusing. would prob watch season 2 again.

the comedy bits can be unbelievable, tho I think the best ones are still in season 1. my favourite is hawk/coop/sheriff at the shooting range talking about women.

always wondered who did the drumming/brushwork on twin peaks. turns out it's grady tate:

http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum/dpa20/GradyTate4.jpg

and i don't know who was the main bassist for the series, but the credits on FWWM are serious -- ron carter, buster williams, and rufus reed.

no shit! wow

donald bailey is credited with drums on FWWM too. someone should hire lynch to produce on a jazz album.

uh, yeah. grady tate IIRC is all over the julee cruise albums too. badalamenti was an arranger so he knows all these jazz dudes.

a lot of the music cues from the series (esp. 2nd season) are all synthesized, by badalamenti as often as not. not a ton of full-group arrangements.

i sort of feel like jazz heads would turn up their noses at that julee cruise stuff, since it's so obviously "jazz-esque" without being jazz. obviously way more stylized than say norah jones but has a similar relation to jazz as a variety of motifs and figures rather than as an approach.

the one-chord walking bassline "jazz" cues (audrey's theme or whatever) are way better in the 2nd season. that's when i really noticed the sick brushwork and had to find out who was behind it.

y'all have this: http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Peaks-All-Season-Music/dp/B000W4HFY8/

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yep, great album

badalementi going through the composing of laura palmer's theme for the extras on the gold box is amazing.

oh look, here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvSFOEfHJE

Wow! Thanks for posting that.

i was in the milwaukee airport waiting for my plane and heard the twin peaks theme over the pa system. very surreal.

I would be afraid if I heard that.

If I even start imagining Twin Peaks music when I'm doing night hiking, I get freaked out and have to give myself a pep talk.

at the time there was a small robotic santa flopping around on the ground, laughing maniacally.

ok yeah thats fucking terrifying

roxy thinking about hiking

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AkrZ09GYiws/SkpNuxZSb0I/AAAAAAAAJ8o/c1C9BJYZeKw/s400/twinpeaks100b.jpg

otm thats my friend cmac reflected in mirror

That video gives me chills! The Love Theme and the main title theme are probably the best pieces of music he ever made.

a hike sounds nice.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8574/lodge.jpg

<3<3<3 the Badalamenti video upthread. Made my night.

Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3a4aPvhdCo

I got the box brand-new on Boxing Day for $40 after discount, postcards included. I'd love to get the whole set (the base 61, not the extras), but there doesn't seem to be any shortcut...So far, I've watched the pilot plus first episode. I think it was about fifteen years ago when I watched the whole thing in re-run on Bravo. It reminds me of the O.J. saga in one respect: before it went off the rails and was reduced to camp, there was something really dark and grim there. Some of the pilot even seems to anticipate Elephant.

i just bought series one on dvd today

guy in the shop told me that series 2 was banned in ireland until recently (?)

doubtful. it's certainly not banned in the UK, but it's not officially available on dvd here either. looks like S2 isn't available on Region 2 DVD (UK, Ireland, etc.) until early next year.

watching down the last 8 or so episodes of Season 2 at the moment and am very tempted to skip through all this Windom Earl/corny subplots business and just get to that glorious final episode. Anyone recommend this? I never bothered watching these first time around.