HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

it's very Arrested Development

Feels like everyone is taking Matson at face value and I’m not sure why.

Shiv was def making fun of this, like "oh really, if he said it then it must be true, surely there is not the possibility of saying an untrue thing" or whatever, but I'm on the hook to see how it goes down.

yeah i guess kendall getting a read that matsson wld pay more is the most likely answer, it felt like he had some emotional reaction to the call tho, i guess that emotion could just be recognizing an opportunity for business wins, or maybe he believed him and decided it would be fun to kill the deal

I do love that the sibling alliance has fallen apart before it even started, they’re all shiftily making calls and making moves behind each other’s backs and then without knowing it playing each other and potentially wrecking multiple deals.

I think as always the issue with this show is the alliances and plots are built on shifting sands and what’s an established group now may be at each other’s throats soon. Logan knows divide and rule has been a winning strategy for generations of tyrants!

theres no trust theyre weak not serious people

now help me down from these paper boxes

that speech was so good im ready get on the pirate ship

i kinda wanna watch the ep again before we get ep 3--it was so good. ha! I forgot about Con wanting a Hoegarden

his whole speech about the kinds pf people at bars with blood on their heads & sweating through their hands or whatever

then talking about howd hed only seen karaoke in the movies, a very sheltered boy

where the rest of the siblings prob have rubbed shoulders with the plebs plenty

Connor is what would’ve happened to Cameron in Ferris bueller if he hadn’t wrecked his dad’s ferrari and actually seen karaoke irl at a parade.

heh

looool this feels otm

Tensed up for a moment when those paper boxes looked unsteady!

And assumed Tom would get up to speak and take a tumble in front of everyone.

i was hoping the boxes would just gently crumple slightly for Tom

I keep coming back to that 'you're not serious people' line as a very 'game unwittingly recognize game' comment from Mr. My News Network is a Pirate Ship

Except you just saw the reporters get carried along with it? The guy who can fire you at will is a serious person. The kids can’t get it together enough to settle on an agreed strategy and are constantly stabbing each other in the back.

plus idk this is just me but i think Logan knows that they are all far more motivated by “get back at Dad” than “succeed in business” and i think he clearly sees that in their shenanigans (maybe more than they think?)

so some people on this board may know one of my jobs is hosting karaoke in portland, so anyways I used to have this whole bit I’d do threatening an all-Leonard Cohen karaoke night, so when Connor was caught mid-famous blue raincoat you can imagine I had to pick myself off the floor

lmao

just incredible

amazing

lool

first they take Manhattan

My partner has said for a long time that he wants Famous Blue Raincoat played at his funeral, so that was a hands-over-mouth moment for us both.

“You’re note serious people”

Logan is an evil evil evil man, but you have to respect that he has this hard to define quality, let’s call it competency(which, crucify me, but I do see as a virtue). It by no means outweighs his horribleness, but he’s operating on a higher plane and if his kids could just respect that, while still acknowledging his horribleness, things would be going much better for them.

This is the key element that draws me to this show: terrible man is very good at what he does and all his naysayers keep rejecting that to their own downfall

I don’t think shiv’s “you say it and it makes it true, confirmation bias” but was accurate. Just a scapegoat to allow herself to think she’s smarter and better than dad it’s just that everyone listens to dad and not her

agree with that. it has been true in some situations but not this one

just here to third the brilliance of the Jaws line. Genuine LOL here.

I just realized that the actress who plays Willa, Justine Lupe, is also in Mrs Maisel (she’s Astrid, the gentile wife of Midge’s brother!)

anyway. as you were.

Willa in her moment near the end was really wonderful in this, as if to say to Connor, you asked a simple question because you're simple but it has a complicated answer and you're going to get it because I'm not as simple as you are and I want you to know that -- or maybe, in a sense, she was saying to Connor "I love you but you are not a serious person"

damn, that last shot tonight...jeremy strong is a fantastic actor

Well that was a good episode. Everybody got their moment or moments, and we know them all so well by now that we understand where each of them is coming from and all of their conflicting feelings and motivations.

cant believe they killed off the big man! whatre we gonna do now

they had to! it’s in the name of the show

really powerful episode, all the kids are such great actors

yeah it was tremendous

they had to! it’s in the name of the show

I said that to my wife at the start of the season, he had to die somewhere in it if just to manifest the title of the show. I didn't expect it so early but I think it's good timing, gives plenty of time to let everybody's stories play out.

And yeah, the whole cast was so good. Even down to the guy who plays Colin, with just a little moment by the car at the end.

xp Was not so sold on the kids in this ep but structurally speaking, the death now, while it took me totally by surprise, is in retrospect clearly the right way to do it, leaving a decent amount of show to actually be about the, you know, succession. Having the death at the end would be too neat, having it not happen at all would be a copout, having a big lead-up to it would I think have been too much like what's come before.

I was worried they'd do some drawn-out coma deal, I'm glad they made it neat and clean. I was sure he wasn't going to just pop back up, because the series started with him almost dying, doing it again would have felt cheap.

i just watched their post show interview thing and they said they filmed the whole boat part all in one go they were really just running around the boat doing everything in order without setting up for each shot and whatnot pretty cool

totally a good move, but i will miss the old bear. every week i always think who's the most fucked--in a way this fucks so many people, kids included. it was pretty heavy too--which was fine, but I appreciated the humor in Kendall's line, "We’ll get a funeral off the rack... We can do Reagan’s with tweaks.”

and yeah how they shot it was cool--seems like the rest of the season will be total chaos

I want it to be "war between the kids and the seasoned professionals" but I fear it's going to be way too much about the presidential election and ATN, which is where the show has been least strong

i have faith they'll land the series in a great way--was such a powerful episode and all the actors are at the top of their game

also what if Kerry is pregnant ;)

you mean chuckles the clown??