What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

Map, with thanks for your reply - not wishing to derail the Critique of AOC Reason, I have redirected a reply here:

Perry Anderson

https://www.thecut.com/2021/10/partying-with-gabriel-ocasio-cortez-aocs-little-brother.html

seems cool! just to save the haters some time he used to be a real estate agent though

She's streaming on Twitch again right now:

https://www.twitch.tv/aoc

So I saw there was AOC discourse going on but when I clicked through it was a dang Freddie deBoer article and I just peaced right out.

I was going way back in some stuff I saved off twitter and I apparently still have FdB’s insane allegations screenshotted from when he tried to falsely metoo someone

I can’t think of a more spectacular pundit flameout. I guess he’s lucky it was mostly confined to the internet, so he can still get gigs in New York Magazine.

we’ve got taibbi conversation on the other thread the worse case is right there

Ha ha not really

Certainly not cash-wise

DeBore has a Substack newsletter that I assume pays his rent, or some portion thereof. Pieces of shit like him can always find suckers.

It will not shock anyone that he's a very active poster in the redscarepod subreddit

If you've received an angry email from Freddie deBoer complaining about me, drop me a line. Curious to know how many he's writing.

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) August 7, 2023

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/30/us/politics/aoc-third-term-congress.html

it turns out she doesn't have a single flaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yec4JDxo5eY

feels like her public profile has dipped but maybe that's just me not being on twitter/house republicans sucking up all the oxygen in the world

lmao “the book was given to us on day 1”

idk seems she actually is interested in doing the work and passing bills and stuff not just trying to be on TV all day

she'll be president some day, i think, if there is a "president" of the united states in the 2030s and beyond

feels like her public profile has dipped

Same thought occurred to me when I saw the thread, but I think the follow-up post about concentrating on governance answers that well. You can also wear out your welcome pretty quickly through over-exposure.

It also seems like the GOP stopped attacking her quite as much. A lot of her exposure came from Republicans shouting at her or stalking her.

We may also have reached a point where GOP congressmen may even silently agree with her.

good interview: https://www.offmessage.net/p/aoc-oversight-senate-democrats

The Pelosification is nearly complete https://t.co/oAkvyHTJoK

— cabral (@doctor_cabral) July 9, 2024

Yes, she abandoned the DSA goal of making Kamala the nominee

🙄

(sorry, that's a reaction to the tweet, not to AOC)

She’s just playing the long game until running for Senate

She's being trained up to bomb other countries.

Girlboss. Gatekeep. Gaslight.

The watusi. The twist.

a lot of the "it has to be Biden" people are leaning hard into the angle that it's Justice Democrats types and their supporters that are trying to change candidates, which just leads into the narrative that they're out of step with the party as a whole. it makes strategic sense to have them take the middle of the road on this one -- any call to swap out candidates needs to come from the center of the party

Leftists like to trumpet every AOC heresy as proof that electoral politics is corrupting and useless.

how dare people take strategic stances in... politics?

people are so gross about her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE5BWFRETdk

I'm sure insane Twitter people are doing their thing but it's not unreasonable to express disappointment at one of the ostensibly most left-wing Congresspeople going to bat for Genocide Joe who shouldn't even be running for President.

As far as a strategic stance, maintaining influence in the party, etc. - she doesn't seem to have much influence to start with. Toeing the line on this isn't going to make the unperson wing of the party any more supportive - as it didn't over the last six years - but it does cost her influence with the left of the country such as it is. The loudest official voices calling for Biden to step down are establishment lib media and centrists, if the Bidenistas are going to blame the Squad they're going to do it regardless of what any individual leftish person says, the exact same trap of trying to tailor messages to avoid criticisms from the right.

Hard for me to understand why people go into politics. If you criticize your own party you’re excommunicated forever. To get ahead you have to debase yourself by saying things like “criticism of Biden is ageist.” Doesn’t seem like a good time

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) July 9, 2024

I don't know why you're dragging me into this. Ocasio-Cortez is great for her district and a valuable voice in hearings. I don't think she should switch over to the Senate, or run for president, though. She's much more influential where she is.

people are so gross about her

― budo jeru

As far as a strategic stance, maintaining influence in the party, etc. - she doesn't seem to have much influence to start with.

In the context of the House of Representatives influence comes in a lot of different forms. The most important one is seniority, but that can't be acquired through strategy, only by longevity. For someone like AOC with only a few terms of seniority influence comes with membership -- in the Democratic caucus as a whole, the progressive caucus, her state delegation and any other personal alliances she can maintain.

Because her influence is group-based and/or interpersonal, she constantly has to mesh her own position within the context of those networks of relationships according to her best judgment. She could just say fuck it I'll go it alone, but she apparently has different goals than just standing outside the system and speaking her truth. I agree with her on that. She could stand outside the system without going to all the trouble of getting elected into it.

OTM

it's strange to see Jamaal Bowman falling in line with the Biden endorsement too, like what does he even have to lose

He thought replacing Biden was a bad idea all along

oh sorry maybe I was wrong

Thought democracy was on the line, why are we positioning and playing the long game?

^ ^ ^

Careerism and ego will always win out.

They won't need to cancel elections if the Dems just throw them

honestly not getting my panties in a bunch over this--what she says wouldn't make a difference to Biden, he probably thinks she's his home health aide if he even knows who she is

Its not about making a difference to Biden is it now.