Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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a funny thing about facebook going meta is that it was to some extent in response to the fact that wall street wants constant rapid growth and facebook was starting to look like a slow mature company so they just threw some techno bullshit at the wall to goose the stock price but then the idea was so bad that no believed it lmao a tech vision has to be genuinely awful for wall street to not get stoked on it at all

lag∞n, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:34 (three years ago)

they had the requisite media rollout many will this change the world think pieces and just nothing no one wanted it

lag∞n, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:35 (three years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrquSP4aEAE3xIK?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:37 (three years ago)

where do I cop that t-shirt though

mh, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:06 (three years ago)

a funny thing about facebook going meta is that it was to some extent in response to the fact that wall street wants constant rapid growth and facebook was starting to look like a slow mature company so they just threw some techno bullshit at the wall to goose the stock price but then the idea was so bad that no believed it lmao a tech vision has to be genuinely awful for wall street to not get stoked on it at all

― lag∞n, Monday, March 20, 2023 2:34 PM (two hours ago)

yeah it's like a very, very basic law of finance/economics that growth is not infinite. your product can be growing at 50%, 100%, 200% or w/e but sooner or later you will saturate the market, growth will begin to slow down, will settle down to a steady 3-5% a year like an IBM or proctor and gamble. facebook basically is over the hump, reached peak user growth, they've got what 2 billion users or w/e? that's almost 1/3 of the global population, pretty good, even though all your younger users are fleeing the platform!

apple's facing the same situation with their iphones - they've probably reached peak iphones, sales right now probably represent replacement more than growth, they are needing to target lower, more price sensitive markets like india since the good getting's been got.

i think the other big factor in zuck's decision is apple pulling the rug out from under them with their privacy settings that took away all of fb's ad-tracking abilities, it really hammered fb at the time. zuck realized that his entire empire was subject to tim apple, because zuck didn't control the hardware that his product was being consumed on. meta is a reaction to that - i can certainly see the beautiful, robot logic of throwing $36 billion at meta from zuck's perspective - a hardware/software stack that he controls from top to bottom, once he gets it going, tim apple will never be able to take it away from him. problem is nobody wants a second life that costs $2000 to play. also you don't will a market into existence. if the original iphone had not been a success i am sure steve jobs would have let it go the way of the newton. you don't throw good money after bad. but it's OK, because facebook the website itself is still a money printer even tho tiktok is hoovering its young users, i applaud the effort because it's sort of like corporate communism, full maximum employment for anybody who has "VR" on their resume. it almost resembles us defense department spending in a way, just billions and billions thrown after perverted objects that are utterly useless, meta a modern day fitzcarraldo.

, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:20 (three years ago)

There was an arcade here that had similar VR setups to that + the Mechwarrior game where you sat in a cockpit that moved on hydraulics. So expensive I only got to go once but it really did feel like the Future of Gaming in 1994... then the next summer I got a job watching over a play by hour LAN that had twelve spaces networked for Duke Nukem, Doom and Command & Conquer and $50 a match Mechwarrior did not seem quite so likely.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:26 (three years ago)

tech people who claim they are into "atoms not bits" are the absolute worst

Today is the 50th anniversary of one of the most destructive acts of industrial vandalism in history: the ban on supersonic flight over the US.

It's why we're not flying NY-LA in 90 minutes.

Congress can end the ban this year. Make America boom again.https://t.co/BrpbCBCXfT

— Eli Dourado (@elidourado) March 23, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:57 (three years ago)

the funny thing is theres just no demand for supersonic commercial flights its too expensive

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:05 (three years ago)

lmao

I’m struck by the fact that American economic growth went off the rails in 1973, the same year the overland ban on supersonic flight came into force. The speed limit cannot be responsible for the entirety of the Great Stagnation, of course. The cumulative amount of missing growth is comparable to the entire economy, not to the size of the aviation industry. The numbers don’t add up.

Yet, the ban is not unrelated to economic stagnation. To borrow a term from Ross Douthat

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:05 (three years ago)

I used to hear sonic booms fairly often growing up, because we lived near a Navy base where supersonic jets would sometimes fly.

o. nate, Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:18 (three years ago)

lol cmon

Mark Zuckerberg is really naming all his kids with Roman imperial names. Respect 🫡 https://t.co/OtkWp9rPV9

— Bryan Cheong (@bryancsk) March 24, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 24 March 2023 17:57 (three years ago)

things are certain to end well for the imperial line, as they always do

mark s, Friday, 24 March 2023 18:36 (three years ago)

also the first hapsburg was called RADBOT ffs

mark s, Friday, 24 March 2023 18:38 (three years ago)

Literally the conclusion of PALO ALTO is Silicon Valley tech firms becoming prime military contractors after avoiding doing that for 100 years https://t.co/cvFJSxqaDf

— Malcolm Harris (@BigMeanInternet) March 27, 2023

ꙮ (map), Monday, 27 March 2023 15:04 (three years ago)

Well, after they've show real promise as grifters they're invited to play in the big leagues of scamming citizens out of their money: defense contracting.

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 27 March 2023 16:00 (three years ago)

bout how much i keep in my checking too

Gruenberg: The ten largest deposit accounts at SVB held $13.3 billion in the aggregate.

— Nick Timiraos (@NickTimiraos) March 27, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 27 March 2023 20:38 (three years ago)

lol

NEW: An internal model at Silicon Valley Bank warned that higher interest rates could have a crushing impact on its finances. So executives changed it: https://t.co/Ru5ZOn6wxF with @tcfrankel @josephmenn

— Daniel Gilbert (@ByDanielGilbert) April 2, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:36 (three years ago)

+ Theoretically, if publicly hanging say, 5 fentanyl dealers led to saving the lives of hundreds, is it morally reasonable?
+ Why would most San Francisco residents view my question above as horrifying and immoral?
+ What do other countries do with their fentanyl dealers?

— Michelle Tandler (@michelletandler) April 9, 2023

Whole thread is nuts obviously but the application of the logic of effective altruism is wild

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 9 April 2023 20:45 (three years ago)

Timothy @_timothyjm
21m Replying to @michelletandler
Theoretically, if publicly hanging say, 5 venture capitalists led to saving the lives of hundreds, is it morally reasonable?

Timothy gets it.

nickn, Sunday, 9 April 2023 21:42 (three years ago)

ha nice

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 April 2023 21:42 (three years ago)

Theoretically, if my granny had two wheels, would she be a bicycle?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 9 April 2023 21:42 (three years ago)

xxp hahahahaha yes more of that please

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 9 April 2023 21:55 (three years ago)

Just drumming up angel investors for her lnchmb startup

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 9 April 2023 23:40 (three years ago)

someone plz explain ichellemay andlertay’s grift to me… idk how she still has oxygen

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Monday, 10 April 2023 02:50 (three years ago)

People who have always been disappointed the trolley problem is only theoretical.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 10 April 2023 02:57 (three years ago)

incredible

Hey Michelle, this you? https://t.co/d6jIJcw6Wa pic.twitter.com/vTXVeKR9Ft

— Czarina (@fishontherun2) April 10, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 10 April 2023 03:32 (three years ago)

of course

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Monday, 10 April 2023 03:35 (three years ago)

I wonder if she knew Buttigieg?

nickn, Monday, 10 April 2023 05:08 (three years ago)

this lady is insufferable, like Michael Shellenberg, they start with a statement I agree with: SF is fucked up, shit is NOT working, it is indeed extremely, extremely bad and dire; and then they take that to places where I would never wind up. That thread started with how horrible it is that no one in this tech executive meeting said they would have stopped and responded to Bob Lee's cries for help. That is fucked. How that leads to "let's hang drug dealers" is beyond me. Leave alone the fact that no one knows yet why that guy got killed but I have a feeling it wasn't some rando homeless crazy drug addict attack; I suspect he was murdered by someone for some reason. Which has nothing to do with the situation in SF.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 10 April 2023 05:29 (three years ago)

SF America is fucked up, shit is NOT working

FTFY

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Monday, 10 April 2023 05:41 (three years ago)

that too

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 10 April 2023 05:46 (three years ago)

sorry that was not supposed to be snarky, just a recognition that shit is hard (esp for you, been thinking of yr hospice sitch and wishing well)

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Monday, 10 April 2023 06:02 (three years ago)

wow, I wonder how she would solve Oakland's problems! ... if she thinks SF is fucked up ...

sarahell, Monday, 10 April 2023 06:25 (three years ago)

*Update* - For those who are confused, I am not advocating for public hangings.

I've been reading The Barbary Coast (a book about crime in SF after the Gold Rush) so it was top of mind.

With that said, I *do* believe that fentanyl & meth dealers should serve time in jail. pic.twitter.com/2T28BqRi5F

— Michelle Tandler (@michelletandler) April 10, 2023

lol I WAS JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 10 April 2023 06:43 (three years ago)

The lesson I took from reading 19th century American history is that everything was groovy.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 10 April 2023 06:44 (three years ago)

SF seems considerably more fucked up than oakland to me.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 10 April 2023 06:55 (three years ago)

Start regularly recording your parents, elders and loved ones. With enough transcript data, new voice synthesis and video models, there is a 100% chance that they will live with you forever after leaving physical body. This should be even possible by end of the year.

— Pratik Desai (@chheplo) April 8, 2023

mookieproof, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:12 (three years ago)

why

mh, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:13 (three years ago)

like my to do list wasn't long enough already

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:15 (three years ago)

My kids, into an app, years after I died: Dad...we could really use your advice right now
The app, after loading for 30 seconds: CHILdren..you must resPECT..MY BIG round Ass https://t.co/gFXsFgmWtE

— Mr. Bedtime (@InternetHippo) April 10, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:25 (three years ago)

*Hearing my reedy, wheezy 75-year-old voice reading an article about the Sino occupation of Peru*

GREAT-GRANDKIDS: "And he use to work on the 'radio'?"

pplains, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:31 (three years ago)

lol about a year ago I told my mom that she should do something like this and have it integrated into the GPS on my dad's car, so that even if she is no longer there, she can still give my dad driving directions so he doesn't get lost.

sarahell, Monday, 10 April 2023 15:58 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdfeXipkBt4

, Monday, 10 April 2023 16:08 (three years ago)

Years ago, an older relative bought one of the kids a teddy bear that when squeezed, played a very loving greeting from the older relative.

The older relative is still with us, but I still have thoughts that I've kept to myself.

pplains, Monday, 10 April 2023 16:27 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg29TuWo0Yo

"The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 10 April 2023 17:28 (three years ago)

this was the premise of the pretty good Battlestar Galactica spinoff Caprica which was unceremoniously cancelled.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 10 April 2023 22:48 (three years ago)

Has Michelle Tandler been kicked in the head by a mule or something pic.twitter.com/D9SwXHShEH

— Elai (@elaifresh) April 10, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 00:53 (three years ago)

lmao

Saw the Black Mirror episode everyone is suggesting. I get it now. It’s very personal issue and I sincerely apologize for hurting anyone’s feeling. 😔

— Pratik Desai (@chheplo) April 10, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 02:44 (three years ago)

"I'm not a ghoul"

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:00 (three years ago)

that guy got a hell of a lot of attention for that tweet when he's just some rando

mh, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:38 (three years ago)


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