But what if it's many a bacon
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
if you guys ever want to try going back to the stovetop try starting with a cold skillet, medium-low heat, keep it moving, nothing should burn
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 March 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
this is me at the moment with eggs šš½ and bacon šš½ TCB, talk to me of induction cook tops (and maybe other cooking appliances)
― mark s, Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
I e-mailed a kitchen expert last week to ask what the best way to season a cast iron was, and he replied "fry two pounds of bacon"
My bf is veggie so I did not do that (but I imagine it would be spectacular)
― touche pas ma planĆØte (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link
I get equally good results in both the oven and on the stove. Up to 3 slices, I'll generally use stove, and I'll use the oven for a lot of bacon. One thing that helps a lot is that I always use thick cut bacon.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
If you have a poorly ventilated kitchen the oven method is quite appealing. Iād rather my apartment smell like bacon for 12 hrs via the oven vs 48 hrs via the stove. I imagine the stove method makes crispier bacon though
― Josefa, Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
Bake in the oven on parchment paper or a grid rack for crispness.
FGTI - cold-pressed flaxseed oil works really well to season cast iron. Rub all over to coat, wipe off excess with a paper towel, bake inverted in a 350 deg oven for 1 hour min then turn the oven off and let the pan cool in there overnight.
― Jaq, Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
when I'm bakin' bacon it's 2 sheet pans' worth for several mealsshrugging takes effort and it's sunday, so*plays dead*xps
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
El-P appears prominently on The Veils album Total Depravity
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 19 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
Bacon cooked in an oven on parchment > bacon cooked in a skillet > buying already-cooked bacon
I don't think it's any more wasteful than using an oven to bake cookies or heat up a pizza; why would it be?
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 March 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
Well, a stove is not so suitable for the other things ā¦
― Alba, Sunday, 19 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
I guess because bacon is usually considered a side. presumably you are also cooking something else when you are making bacon
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 19 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
microwave for 20-30 seconds
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Sunday, 19 March 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
boil it in an electric kettle, fuck it like
― Ćr an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 March 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
Fry it with lard.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 March 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
ideal place for bacon is the grill aka broiler
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 19 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
EZ bake oven
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
"basic bike maintenance"
On a tangent, I've managed to avoid learning how to drive right up until my forties. It wasn't very useful in London, and now I'm fortunate enough to live within cycling distance of my workplace. But I'm reaching a point when I will probably need a car, so back in February I did my CBT. This is a day-long training course that teaches you how to ride a motorbike. At the end of it you can ride a 125cc motorbike for two years with L-plates. Which explains why there are so many Deliveroo drivers buzzing around with L-plates.
And so I am now the proud owner of a Peugeot Tweet, which does about 140mph and costs about five English pounds to fill up (the tank capacity is about a gallon). This gives me two years to learn about roundabouts and toughen myself up mentally for the inevitable time I crush a pram or something. And I now have a legitimate excuse to own a pair of leather trousers.
I remember the first time I went to Italy, I felt inadequate because I was surrounded by kids buzzing around on scooters. Crowds of them. When I was a kid I didn't buzz around on anything. This is a photo I took in Genoa last month, where even scooter drivers have trouble parking:https://i.imgur.com/i7nNdAh.jpg
It's a massive culture shock. For a mixture of reasons - climate, the law, the distances involved - scooters and motorbikes are a tiny tiny minority thing in the UK. We all have cars instead. Cars upon cars, parked on the pavement and all over. And tiny stand-on electric scooters. Of which there were masses in Genoa, sitting unused on the pavement because everybody already has a scooter. The problem is that it takes a certain amount of money and commitment to learn to ride a motorbike, so why not learn to drive a car instead? I'm digressing here.
I grew up with a bicycle, and one thing I learned is that the brakes are different for motorbikes. On a bicycle the right and left handles control the front and back brakes. And that's true for an automatic scooter. But for a geared motorbike the left handgrip is actually the clutch! Not the brake at all. You control the brake with a foot pedal instead. And the gears go 1-neutral-2-3-4-5-6, which makes a certain amount of sense but feels weird. I also learned that motorcyclists are legally allowed to pull trailers, but only if they have a proper licence. And that my dreams of riding a motorcycle with a sidecar are likely to remain dreams because (a) the Ural is a 745cc motorbike (b) it costs Ā£21! But there is still time to buzz around Morocco on a two-stroke.
The discussion of bacon reminds me that there is some debate as to whether you should spray cooking oil on the exhaust pipe. To season it, in the same way that you season a cast iron pan. It sounds like one of those things that might possibly work but wouldn't do any harm to try.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Sunday, 19 March 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
in that last scenario are you cooking the bacon rolled up inside the exhaust or laid in strips over it
― Ćr an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 March 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
it's hilarious that Linkin Park's founding bassist doesn't play on Hybrid Theory because he left the band for a year to focus on his other project, a ska punk band called Tasty Snax. might be one of the luckiest guys in rock because they let him rejoin after they sold millions.— Al Shipley (@alshipley) March 19, 2023
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 19 March 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link
Re: cast irons, I was shockingly old when I learned I didnāt actually need these cumbersome implements that are fussy as hell and donāt actually make the end product that much better.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 March 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link
(They are not any better than other cooking vessels, sorry yr in a cult)
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 March 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
i gotta dig out/reseason/start using my cast iron pans to try & up my iron intake, and they're convenient for recipes that go stove-to-oven, but yeah generally speaking fuck those pans. oooh i'm a fancy frying pan and i'm prone to rust and i don't like soap, oooh! like get over yourself cast iron, you're not all that.
― so amazing moments ever. . (cat), Monday, 20 March 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link
and so heavy, god, and the handles will burn your skin off!! fkn cast iron!
― so amazing moments ever. . (cat), Monday, 20 March 2023 02:36 (one year ago) link
that a sac fly doesnāt count as an at bat! what!!!?
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link
dr seuss-ass declaration
― mark s, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
Yeah itās interesting that hitting a deep fly that advances a runner from 2nd to 3rd counts against the batterās batting average but a fly that advances a runner from 3rd to home doesnāt. But I assume baseball people have thought these things over and maybe it all makes sense.
― Josefa, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
my initial read on that was that there's a species of, presumably, insect called a sac fly, & Tracer was astonished that they are not taxonomically grouped with bats. but desultory googling shows that crickets are involved somehow, and the baffling uk fauna gets bafflinger
― so amazing moments ever. . (cat), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link
wait there's baseball now, jesus
― so amazing moments ever. . (cat), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
i have been looking at baseball statistics and watching baseball games and reading box scores for my entire life, not in a professional capacity, actually wait yes, for one summer in a professional capacity, but mainly as someone pretty knowledgable about baseball and how the plays are accounted for, and i just never knew that. it seems impossible but there it is
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
thereās a lot in baseball that could have sprung from the mind of dr seuss tbh
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link
Lol!
― Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link
I love my cast iron pan and it's perfect for dual hob/oven cooking stuff like variations of tortilla or cornbread. I season mine with plain old vegetable oil and won't fuck with any teflon shit. When I first got it I watched lots of seasoning guide vids on yt and learned that the Chinese had been doing this for over a thousand years.
― calzino, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
I don't see what the big deal is about just washing them with a wire brush and hot water. At least they don't start bleeding toxic chemicals into your food if you scratch them, surely that is a major positive as well as the fact you only ever need to buy one.
― calzino, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
chain mail scrubber ftw
https://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/cast-iron-chainmail-scrubber
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
So Tracer, how do you think a sac fly should be scored? How about a sac bunt?
― Josefa, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
https://sacsplace.com/
― Bringing Up Initials B.B. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
I'm pretty skeptical of the idea of "situational thinking" which implies that batters can just sky 'em out to right field whenever they want to. so it all seems kinda arbitrary to me and I suspect it all just balances out in the end.
― frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
i do covet that chain mail scrubber. they feel and sound so ~~~slinky~~~
perhaps with time and familiarity i too will come to love cast iron, but idk, a nice stainless pan w/ wooden handle still feels like the ideal 2 me
and every time i see "sac" i think cyst :(
― so amazing moments ever. . (cat), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
you can do fried eggs on seasoned cast iron without it sticking, although I couldn't guarantee it every time and sometimes get a bit of sticking. But I'm not fussed about perfection. I think it definitely helps to warm the iron up for 3-4 minutes longer than you would do with that teflon stuff before cooking.
― calzino, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link
sac flie scoring predates sabermetrics and the league/coaches didn't want players refusing to do the one necessary thing to bring in a run or move a batter over because it'd hurt their standings in the batting race and taking unnecessary risks.
now it isn't even really necessary
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
"sac fly" also sounds like something that lays eggs in a scrotum
and then the eggs wld get fertilized by the dude's sperm
and then his balls would be pregnant
with jeff goldblum larvae
― so amazing moments ever. . (cat), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
just to note that i donāt use teflon or any shit like that, i use stainless steel and yes, once in a while a glazed cast iron that i can actually wash like a normal pan instead of fussing about it.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link
I'm a stainless steel/carbon steel wok enthusiast as well, table.
lol, just ordered a chainmail scrubber and in my enthusiasm I didn't notice it was a China based ebayer, so might not get it for weeks. No more wearing out wire brushes for this fool!
― calzino, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
we got a fancy carbon steel pan that we only use for eggs or egg-related dishes like shakshuka
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link
I would not, could not, with a batI would not, could not, wearing a hat
I will not eat them with a ballI will not eat them, Sam, at all
I would not eat them while playing TetrisAnd I don't subscribe to Sabermetrics
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
That sounded like it segued into a Flight of the Conchords song at the end there.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
it does count as a plate appearance, though. So it doesn't lower your BA, but it does lower your OBP. This is how you can have a lower OBP than BA, if you have more sac flies than walks (and HBPs)
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
enjoying all this sac talk
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link
My favorite sac is Sacagawea
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link