clowning her for killing her mom is totally fair game
iirc the major objection to her is her inability to imagine the humanity of those she sees as 'other'. crut seems to be the only person besides me who understands that dehumanizing humans is never a good look no matter who is doing it. she didn't kill her mom. her mom was going to die no matter what she decided.
based on her description, at age 16 she was required to decide whether or not it was worth prolonging her mother's life via massive medical interventions that would only allow her mother a bare chance to not die immediately. her mom was dying rapidly anyway. this only was a stepping aside from useless interventions. she is so ignorant that she called it euthanasia, when it was nothing of the sort. the fact that you insist on calling this 'killing her mom' is just a measure of your own ignorance of this kind of situation.
there are people on this board who have specific experience with shutting off a ventilator to a loved one. show some fucking respect
otmfm
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:53 (one year ago) link
"My lovely children Altima, Tercel, Ranger, Corolla & Toyotathon"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:54 (one year ago) link
Miata wants to change her name to MX-5.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link
crut seems to be the only person besides me who understands that dehumanizing humans is never a good look no matter who is doing it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, March 18, 2023 10:53 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i worry you may pull a muscle patting yourself on the back
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link
fuck off
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:57 (one year ago) link
did spending hours scolding people not get you what you were looking for
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link
Nazis and people who punch Nazis are really the same if u think about it.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:00 (one year ago) link
aimless otm
― c u (crüt), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link
Let's not argue about who killed who.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link
not sure why so many of you are digging in on *this precise* reason to hate bethany s. mandel -- it's a cornucopia -- but fucking lay off people who have experience you lack
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
Guys let’s stop fighting and go out and kill tonight
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
some people are showing more generosity of interpretation to bethany fuckin mandel than they are to the posters itt
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
but also there are people on this board who have specific experience with shutting off a ventilator to a loved one. show some fucking respect
I did this for my father-in-law. Does that entitle me to say that "Glenn Danzig" is right, Bethany Mandel is a piece of shit who should live in misery, and Aimless is (once again) acting like a concern troll? 'Cause that's about where I'm falling on this issue at the moment.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
if she had just been normal no one wouldve been like haha your mom died
darvo stikes again
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
When you say “billionaires get the guillotine” you’re ignoring that Hitler used the guillotine to kill dissidents.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
Aimless is (once again) acting like a concern troll?
I recently did this for my daughter. you can fuck off, too.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
people were just goofin on a tweet and it quickly turned into bizarre accusations of dehumanization
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link
"bizarre"
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link
I recently did this for my daughter.
Legitimately sorry for your loss. I hope your pain eases soon.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:09 (one year ago) link
here's the thing - said person took that personal experience, inserted it into a very very VERY different scenario and used it as a valid reason to tell other people what to say or not say. there are other choices that person had, including asking folks to be sensitive on the subject, or just bowing out of the conversation altogether. we all have personal difficulties / awful experiences we've gone through, but i try not to generalize mine in a way that polices what other people are saying based on 'have you no decency sir' bs.
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:09 (one year ago) link
also, i'm sorry - joking about death is not dehumanizing
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link
this woman says awful things that dehumanize others, therefore we must say awful things that dehumanize her is so fucking normal it is hard to stop and realize that this norm is fucking awful
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link
No one has dehumanized her, they’ve treated her as what she is - a uniquely horrible person. We have evidence of this, her entire public life and political project.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link
She is using this story to humanize herself because everything else she posts is so utterly ghoulish and awful. It's an utterly cynical move and really doesn't deserve sympathy. And by saying that I am not implying that everyone who experiences loss is undeserving of sympathy.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:16 (one year ago) link
aimless im really sorry for your loss and sorry if this thread my posts or whatever caused you additional suffering im sure everyone here knows what its like to lose someone close to them
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:18 (one year ago) link
they’ve treated her as what she is - a uniquely horrible person
final comments then I will stop. one aspect of wisdom is knowing when a uniquely horrible person is still a person and recognizing that what is horrible about them does not disqualify them from being recognized as human. being recognized as and treated like a human is a human right.
joking about death is not dehumanizing
this is a more than charitable characterization of many of the comments directed at this (horrible) human being. not death as a subject, but her.
now you all can continue to be amazed at my reaction to all this joking and goofing and telling me why I am wrong to object to slagging off on her for what she did. I promise not to respond. Really.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2023 03:25 (one year ago) link
Aimless, I'm very sorry for your loss and pain, and sincerely suggest that stepping out of this thread for a few weeks might be a productive act of self-care.
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Sunday, 19 March 2023 06:59 (one year ago) link
Here’s what it is: I shouldn’t be forced to recognize the humanity and trauma of someone who would like me and many people like me to be dead, and who spreads vitriolic abuse invoking real violence against us all over the place, and in fact seems to get off on being a cruel person. I don’t envy anyone the position of having to decide to take a loved one off life support, and Aimless, I am sorry for your loss. But when someone displays their trauma for the world to see and then continues to inflict trauma of another sort on an entire population, then all bets are off. The cruelty is on the table, and it is not the job of trans or queer people to act like Jesus turning the other cheek when the validity of our very existence is being called into question.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 March 2023 12:39 (one year ago) link
She does a good job of dehumanizing herself
Not nuking these fucking animals is the only restraint I expect and that's only because the cloud would hurt Israelis.— Bethany S. Mandel (@bethanyshondark) June 30, 2014
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 March 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link
i agree with moodles and table on the subject of bethany mandel.
on reflection, i realize i was unnecessarily dickish to crut itt - i'm sorry for that.
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 19 March 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link
LMAO pic.twitter.com/hLJSpDLL7L— High Ter Kite (@H1ghTerK1te) March 19, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 March 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link
no worries map, no offense taken. i accept that many ilxors feel differently than i do about this and that they have their reasons for it
― c u (crüt), Sunday, 19 March 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
Our focal metric is hate speech impressions, not the number of Tweets containing slurs.Most slur usage is not hate speech, but when it is, we work to reduce its reach. Sprinklr’s analysis found that hate speech receives 67% fewer impressions per Tweet than non-toxic slur Tweets— Twitter Safety (@TwitterSafety) March 21, 2023
"Most slur usage is not hate speech"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
non-toxic slur treats
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
So what does the loss of two-step authentication mean for most (super casual) users? I'm not sure, but I suppose the first sign of anything hinky is a signal for me to delete. Or at least change my password.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
you can still use 2fa fwiw just not via sms which is a bad method anyway
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link
I never used it, 2fa is a pain in the ass (I know it's more secure but it's also a pain in the ass so I avoid it when possible).
I created a new, 'professional' account (which uses the same handle I used to use before I started liberally telling people to go fuck themselves on twitter) and I see hardly any ads on it when I use the app on my phone. It is very strange. But my god does TWitter want to shove terrible people in my 'for you' now.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
I use two-step stuff for anything that has a linked credit card. otherwise, it's never seemed that important to me. but then, Twitter has never been important to me, or at least I don't use it for anything important.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link
Use 2FA everywhere you can bc one way or another anything that gets compromised will be a vector to getting all your other shit wrecked sorry if this offends
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link
Yeah, 2FA or bust, preferably through an authenticator.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
But I don't need this just to scroll twitter, do I? Otherwise I think I do use 2-step everywhere prompted.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
lol
My reach (impressions/tweet views) went down hugely, immediately after my blue check appeared - from tens of thousands per tweet to single digit thousands. I’m not thrilled. https://t.co/V8WEqcSMFY— Tweet (@tweet) March 23, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 March 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link
On April 1st, we will begin winding down our legacy verified program and removing legacy verified checkmarks. To keep your blue checkmark on Twitter, individuals can sign up for Twitter Blue here: https://t.co/gzpCcwOpLp Organizations can sign up for https://t.co/RlN5BbuGA3…— Twitter Verified (@verified) March 23, 2023
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 23 March 2023 23:56 (one year ago) link
They’re really going through with their suicide pact.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 23 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
they’ll wait a bit and then introduce a dunce cap or something for national newspaper/magazine writers
― mh, Friday, 24 March 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link
eh, they were supposed to open source The Algorithm last week. Don’t hold your breath.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
I imagine the last remaining person on their security team was like "uh, wait a minute"
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 24 March 2023 04:06 (one year ago) link
cannot get enough of boring people complaining that [wokeness/an agorithm] has robbed them of the attention they are owed
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 March 2023 04:48 (one year ago) link
One thing I'm noticing now is that when I click on a trending topic all the 'Top' tweets are often several weeks (and sometimes months or even years) old, usually from a previous time that topic was trending.
― groovypanda, Friday, 24 March 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link
The account for sitting California Congresswoman Grace Napolitano got hacked by crypto scammers three days ago. Nobody has bothered to fix it. https://t.co/6aIig1ncQq— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 24, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 March 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link