google is the best company i love how they work using their advertising empire to fund wacky ideas they then forget about and discard
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:37 (three years ago)
they built an entire video game platform then didnt do anything with it lmao
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:38 (three years ago)
yeah, and they're a distant third when it comes to being a cloud service provider. part of that is this instinct that their data centers are for google projects because they're going to come up with something huge any day now and they're going to need all of their capacity for their own shit
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:43 (three years ago)
um its called dogfooding
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:44 (three years ago)
i use their cloud (free tier)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:45 (three years ago)
theyre actually very generous shout out to google cloud
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:47 (three years ago)
tbf all of their service offerings seem pretty good and some of them have mock or local versions you can run to proof out your software or run on your own!
they just have no chops for marketing to businesses, really. kind of a fluke that outside of search they ended up settling on email
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:49 (three years ago)
firebase is really good, i tried to use amazons equivalent and boy was that a mess, tho tbf its basically the opposite of the thing aws does well
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:51 (three years ago)
amazon's sloppy as hell with their new shit
half of it is a thin wrapper over a couple open source products, and the in-house stuff is basically "this other company has a product that does this, let's stand up a team to crank out something that does that"
if the latter ones are successful, they throw a little more effort in. if it's not, it goes into zombie mode and bug reports take a year to get fixed, if ever
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:55 (three years ago)
they basically do the google thing of coming up with little projects and then never retire any of them
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:56 (three years ago)
yeah the shear number of aws products is well a lot too much probably
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:57 (three years ago)
― mh, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:55 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the aws firebase "amplify" was the former tho it was a wrapper on top of other aws products some of which are prob wrappers of open source things
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:00 (three years ago)
their pitch was like once your app gets big its already on enterprise scale stuff, buddy no app built with this baby stuff is ever getting big lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:01 (three years ago)
it's pretty funny that their stance is "well, we only have 100 customers using this product and they file bug reports on it constantly. lets just leave it up and if people keep paying who cares"
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:02 (three years ago)
truly some ruthless bullshit
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:03 (three years ago)
one of my coworkers found a bug in one of their lesser-used services that had open source components, made a fix and pull request, and then amazon didn't look at it for a full year
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:08 (three years ago)
just like a real open source maintainer lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:10 (three years ago)
silicon valley like a lot of industries have a social media problem where the loudest voices become defacto spokespeople, the mediating professional pr layer has been deleted
All these founder types waking up to discover a deficit of sympathy for them among the public at large should consider what making lames like Elon Musk and Mark Andreesen the "faces" of their industry has done for them. You guys need faces that are slightly less grotesque.— Will 🦥 Menaker (@willmenaker) March 14, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:39 (three years ago)
the top selling signature basketball shoe was kyrie irvings and nike had to drop him cause he was racist online, its tough for the brands right now
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:40 (three years ago)
xp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snRlPpAZMuo
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:42 (three years ago)
now i get it https://t.co/aLTWnSZsWc— sophie (@netcapgirl) March 13, 2023
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 16:11 (three years ago)
they basically do the google thing of coming up with little projects and then never retire any of them― mh, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:56 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mh, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:56 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
the "never retire any of them" thing is really part of the DNA, to a fault.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 16:34 (three years ago)
that is not too unusual at any tech company - there are usually a bajillion more urgent things that devs need to get done, they'll never get around to the super low priority stuff affecting a relatively small number of users
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:00 (three years ago)
duh! that stuff won't get you promoted!
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:29 (three years ago)
you have to go through lawyers to launch anything here and one of the things they emphasize during that is that you are going to have to have another very long conversation with them if you ever want to shut it down, and you therefore need to have a plan for long term maintenance. the downside of this is this:
yeah the shear number of aws products is well a lot too much probably― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:31 (three years ago)
why are the lawyers the boss of that situation just cause of all the contacts aws has w clients
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:37 (three years ago)
yup.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:54 (three years ago)
google cloud is presumably constrained in similar ways, but they have fewer customers/contracts and 5 years less cruft.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:55 (three years ago)
And then Andrew Jassy names your product something completely stupid
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:56 (three years ago)
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 18:02 (three years ago)
Etsy sellers left in the lurch:
"As you may have seen, we recently experienced a delay in our ability to issue payments to some of our sellers," Etsy posted on its website. "This was related to the rapid and unexpected collapse of Silicon Valley Bank.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 18:04 (three years ago)
calling one of the most fawning, uncritical tech reporters of the last two decades the most "vitriolic voice in the tech ecosystem" is an incredible indictment of how unrigorous the press as a whole has been toward these dweebs https://t.co/VzivxfS2VH— lauren (@NotABigJerk) March 14, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 18:10 (three years ago)
lauren otm
although the distinction where Sacks says "in the tech ecosystem" is kind of telling -- reporters should be reporting on that, and not in it, right?
― mh, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 18:33 (three years ago)
Is there a Sy Hersh type of reporter in tech? I can't think of one
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:47 (three years ago)
interview is a nice overview of california capitalism as it relates to this moment
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/malcolm-harris-palo-alto-interview/
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:58 (three years ago)
we need more mike davises, not more sy hershes
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:59 (three years ago)
well sure, but by Hersh I mean someone who is embedded but actually critical of the tech industry
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 19:49 (three years ago)
mike isaac (NYT) and john carreyou (WSJ) turned their reporting into books about uber and theranos. wirecard was brought down by reporting in the FT (now a major motion picture). etc. etc. and there is a decent amount of less journalistic more cultural criticism in the mainstream press these days.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:07 (three years ago)
kara swisher is worthless obviously
casey newton, zoe schiffer, will oremus, matt levine (sometimes), kate conger, julia carrie wong, nitasha tiku, sam biddle etc. are all good reporters afaict. they don't get 20k words in the new yorker, but neither does hersh these days haha.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:12 (three years ago)
the end of valleywag and the resulting anti-gawker media shitstorm changed the focus from gossiping about weirdos and their goofy business ideas for a while
a lot of the regulation-dodging hacks by uber, the theranos stuff, etc. kind of drifted until there was enough solid material to be published by larger entities with less legal risk
― mh, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:19 (three years ago)
I'd add Molly White to that list, she's my favorite crypto chronicler.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:33 (three years ago)
But yeah, on the Twitter story especially Zoe Schiffer and Casey Newton have been great.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:35 (three years ago)
Malcolm Harris’ latest book seems worthwhile https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/malcolm-harris-palo-alto-interview/
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 23:24 (three years ago)
Article called
“The Obscene Invention of California Capitalism”A conversation with Malcolm Harris about his new history of Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, the West Coast’s settler ideology, and recent turbulence in the world of tech.By Emma Hager
A conversation with Malcolm Harris about his new history of Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, the West Coast’s settler ideology, and recent turbulence in the world of tech.
By Emma Hager
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 23:25 (three years ago)
just posted that hun, and yeah, it's really good
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 23:26 (three years ago)
The NYT is currently running an intense hate campaign against generative AI technologies, and is thereby creating immense damage not only to tech companies but to society and culture itself. I think it is crucial that we get together to create a counter movement.— Joscha Bach (@Plinz) March 15, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 23:59 (three years ago)
The Clone Wars are finally here.
― nickn, Thursday, 16 March 2023 00:20 (three years ago)
Oh snap, you did. My mistake
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 16 March 2023 05:41 (three years ago)
wirecard was brought down by reporting in the FT (now a major motion picture
and a comedy series running on Netflix ... not as funny as Silicon Valley tho tbh
― sarahell, Thursday, 16 March 2023 15:14 (three years ago)