cobol is nice its just doing its thing
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 22:41 (three years ago)
doubt anyones really gonna lose big money on this mb a lil haircut, tho the disruption could be bad for some businesses
379 8-Ks filed today, most declaring exposure to SVB
https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=&CIK=&type=8-K&owner=include&count=100&action=getcurrent
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 March 2023 22:48 (three years ago)
the amount of life sciences and tech companies in that list is pretty lolhere is the money 8-k, plucked from the middle of the list https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000719739/000119312523067777/d450664d8k.htm
― 龜, Friday, 10 March 2023 22:55 (three years ago)
presumably because biotech companies go public earlier (so file 8-Ks) rather than anything to do with SVB's customers being mostly biotech?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 March 2023 23:02 (three years ago)
it’s because a lot of biotech companies banked with svb. nothing to do with timing of their IPOs
― 龜, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:04 (three years ago)
ok but the timing of their IPOs is relevant because if it hadn't happened yet then they wouldn't need to file an 8-K. that's not a list of SVB customers. it's a list of public SVB customers.
why did so many (public) biotechs in particular bank with SVB?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 March 2023 23:09 (three years ago)
I vaguely remember some conspiracy theory stuff about SVB - like, if you're in the know, you know what that means...
George Soros written all over it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:10 (three years ago)
damn that guys everywhere
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:21 (three years ago)
george if youre reading this please send me a check i will do whatever woke activities you require
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:22 (three years ago)
kind of a wild situation, doesnt seem ideal
Practically all the founders I know have frozen accounts right now.Don’t think we ever fully appreciated how integral SVB is to the startup ecosystem.— Ed Elson (@edels0n) March 10, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:27 (three years ago)
Just got an email from Wrapbook, the entertainment payroll service, saying their accounts were with SVB. So, yeah, I think this scenario is more than likely.— Henry Baker (@econobaker) March 10, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:28 (three years ago)
another payroll company
We (Rippling) discovered yesterday that Silicon Valley Bank had unexpected solvency challenges. Just now, we learned that the FDIC had stepped in and effectively shut down SVB.— Parker Conrad (@parkerconrad) March 10, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:39 (three years ago)
"But if you need a few bucks to tide you over, send your paypal address and we'll see what we can muster up.."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:42 (three years ago)
My random clicking on the 8-K list only turned up companies with 0-5% of their cash with SVB
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 10 March 2023 23:56 (three years ago)
Someone link a “we’re fucked” one
too many. Go to make it a drinking game. "I bet Kintara Therapeutics, Inc. has more than 0.5% of their cash in SVB" "I bet more than 2%" "Liar!"
― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:03 (three years ago)
Practically all the founders I know have frozen accounts right now.
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:12 (three years ago)
Startup princelings deserve to sweat over the weekend.
lol, this includes many of of my closest friends, but yes
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:26 (three years ago)
They didn’t have to use the bank with “Silicon Valley” in the name
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:28 (three years ago)
eh, I’m a USAA member so I can’t talk
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:29 (three years ago)
My credit union technically has “Boeing” in the name but that’s mostly historical at this point
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:30 (three years ago)
we had a 'startup credit' company approach us, with the unfortunate name of Brex. They sold themselves as an all-new credit card company just for startups (which we're not) but they're actually just Mastercards
Anyway, they're jumping in right now to extend credit to all these poor starving founders so they can afford a little soylent over the weekend
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:42 (three years ago)
Non-military Navy Federal Credit Union members represent.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:47 (three years ago)
ok but the timing of their IPOs is relevant because if it hadn't happened yet then they wouldn't need to file an 8-K. that's not a list of SVB customers. it's a list of public SVB customers.why did so many (public) biotechs in particular bank with SVB?
― 龜, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:26 (three years ago)
I don’t know why everyone doesn’t bank with a credit union, seems like a no-brainer
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, March 10, 2023 1:58 PM (five hours ago)
credit unions are insured via a different acronym ... I actually don't know much about credit union insurance. Some of them are super cool and will refund customers the "foreign" ATM fees if you take cash out of an ATM that isn't for your bank. SF Fire CU does that.
One of the things that the very large omnipresent banks that have their dumb big bank names on everything have going for them is very responsive Fraud departments ... at least the dumb big bank I have my checking account and credit cards with.
― sarahell, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:27 (three years ago)
I instinctively don't trust "mark to market" because I feel like it's a rationale for making up numbers and claiming that's the market value ... but maybe that's holdover from the mortgage crisis and my instincts are wrong here
― sarahell, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:31 (three years ago)
mark to market is good when the market is going up and bad when the market is going down, is how i break it down to an extent
― 龜, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:32 (three years ago)
it sounds right its a nice phrase
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:34 (three years ago)
i still think it's a sketchy ass accounting method
― sarahell, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:35 (three years ago)
i don't hate it as much as the Trump tax plan concept of being able to expense an entire building in the year purchased ... it was a small victory when that didn't get passed.
― sarahell, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:37 (three years ago)
lol remember crypto
Silicon Valley Bank collapse causes crypto contagion concernsMarch 10, 2023https://t.co/ZSM3G2FJ35 pic.twitter.com/QWxz6PCWKZ— web3 is going just great (@web3isgreat) March 10, 2023
https://t.co/uJghPrxQ4k— web3 is going just great (@web3isgreat) March 11, 2023
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:40 (three years ago)
https://twitter.com/web3isgreat/status/1634398599944470528
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:41 (three years ago)
Per Circle: $3.3 billion, or about one third of USDC's $9.88 billion cash reserves, are with Silicon Valley Bank. https://t.co/i6p2HJdvw1 pic.twitter.com/Qvd7EzmjCC— web3 is going just great (@web3isgreat) March 11, 2023
who could forget this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVQd6ykDL-Q
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:56 (three years ago)
Personally if I needed to keep $3 billion somewhere I’m not sure if I would feel so good about keeping it in cash!
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:57 (three years ago)
lol that commercial i like how its all mountain climbers astronauts and then two people about to make out at the club
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2023 04:02 (three years ago)
that’s the crypto life baby it’s how we’re all living
― Clay, Saturday, 11 March 2023 04:03 (three years ago)
sailing around the world in an old timey ship, ehhfreezing up on some big mountain, idktaking drug in the club with some hot girl, ok yes sold how do i buy the computer money
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2023 04:06 (three years ago)
usdc breaking the buck is… not… good…tether when???
― 龜, Saturday, 11 March 2023 04:13 (three years ago)
not good ...for whom?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 March 2023 04:16 (three years ago)
https://ir.firstrepublic.com/static-files/295faa27-f208-4936-81ff-6c8bfa0fb6b5
🤔
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 11 March 2023 06:47 (three years ago)
Scoop: Vox Media has a substantial portion of its cash at Silicon Valley Bank. The media angle, w/@eringriffith:https://t.co/md8gNCxkwH pic.twitter.com/sZaJod6jmY— Ben Mullin (@BenMullin) March 11, 2023
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 11 March 2023 07:50 (three years ago)
Exciting week ahead for a bunch of FDIC employees tho huh
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 11 March 2023 07:56 (three years ago)
Gift link to new NY Times story, including that Vox Media info above and a dozen or two more anecdotes.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Saturday, 11 March 2023 08:07 (three years ago)
https://ir.firstrepublic.com/static-files/295faa27-f208-4936-81ff-6c8bfa0fb6b5🤔― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, March 11, 2023 1:47 AM (six hours ago)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, March 11, 2023 1:47 AM (six hours ago)
“Every banker knows that if he has to prove that he is worthy of credit, however good may be his arguments, in fact his credit is gone.” — Walter Bagehot, “Lombard Street,” published in 1873.
― 龜, Saturday, 11 March 2023 13:02 (three years ago)
I never face this problem because I never have more than $250K of liquid assets
― mh, Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:16 (three years ago)
Still remarkable that a lot of the crypto/vc types who argued expansionary monetary and fiscal policy would bring about the destruction of the Republic appear to have only themselves existed because of those expansionary policies. Like a scifi movie lol— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) March 11, 2023
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2023 15:46 (three years ago)
bros are sad u_u
I suppose I've learned today how many people are excited to see our technology industry fail. It's unfortunate that it went from something exciting and futuristic to something political where people root for it to fail--even if others are collateral. I guess we broke something.— Suhail (@Suhail) March 11, 2023
Watching people delight in the collapse of a bank that’s been vital to the greatest wealth generation engine this country has had for the last 2 decades is really disheartening to see. I think this is a Twitter problem.I’m gonna be spending less time here.— Austin Federa (@Austin_Federa) March 11, 2023
maybe they can go galt after the bailout
― mookieproof, Saturday, 11 March 2023 15:48 (three years ago)