already dreading having to wake up when it's still dark Monday morning (or Monday night really, it's not morning until the sun comes up). I'm going to be in a bad mood for a couple of weeks.
― silverfish, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:16 (one year ago) link
what was the deal with the senate bill in the us that passed last year unanimously to make dst permanent? like .. it just died afaict? i think rubio reintroduced it this year. probably has some awful riders in it or something but barring that it's gotta be the only good thing rubio has ever done.
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to never have to think about changing the time again
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
I know this doesn’t matter to most of you who think this is a serious issue but evenings being lighter for longer is actually extremely good if you’re female - or indeed just someone who doesn’t like going out by themselves in the dark or can’t exercise till they finish work or w/e - and like going out and about by yourself and don’t have to worry about getting home earlier. It might have positive effects on anxiety, who can say?
― giant bat fucker (gyac), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
The country most recently experimented with permanent daylight saving in 1974, but that ended less than a year later, after eight Florida children died in traffic accidents attributed to the change.
And how many children in Florida in the last year have died from gun – ok, this isn't the thread for that.
― pplains, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
8 year olds shouldn't have been driving imo
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
― ꙮ (map), Friday, March 10, 2023 5:19 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this was a bit of a fluke, and there's not much chance of it passing house last I checked
― a (waterface), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
As has been noted, lots of people hate changing, but can't agree on which direction to not-change.
Previous attempts to not change were greeted with... everybody hating that too. My proposed compromise of shifting a half-hour, and leaving it there, has gotten no traction whatsoever. Eh.
People are just incorrigible grouches who will hate anything, present company very much included. Which makes me wonder whether the borad name "I Love Everything" carries more than a trace of irony.
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
definitely want more daylight toward the evening fwiw, can never keep my directionality oriented correctly when this topic comes up
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 10 March 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
Honestly, I'd be fine with just going back to the previous dates for the time changes (around 20 years ago). Just make it so the Sun rises later than 7am for the fewest days possible in a year.
― silverfish, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
act like it's normal (it isn't)
I can sympathize with the feeling that prompted that statement, but all clock times and time zones are contrivances imposed on natural cycles and rhythms in order for society to regulate itself more efficiently. normal is whatever people accept as the norm. you happen not to accept DST and therefore it isn't normal for you, but individuals don't decide norms. that's societal. it's natural for you to object to DST, but it is normal.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 March 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
Think instead of four time zones across the contiguous 48 states, there should be eight.
― pplains, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
That's not far off from the "local time" state that existed before time zones.
Aimless makes a reasonable point that it's all pretty arbitrary
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
the sun is the same in a relative way but it's later
― mookieproof, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
I'd rather have fucked up health effects than lose an hour of evenings in the summer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
Yeah, but I meant by latitude, not longitude.
― pplains, Friday, 10 March 2023 20:01 (one year ago) link
I meant by latitude
Let's get 'er done! But first, we must prioritize the abolition of the US penny, because we're already this close to living that dream!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 March 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link
lol mookie
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link
We have a new AZ employee, and they don't adhere to Daylight Savings there - except, she tells us, on the Navajo Nation where they do adopt it, since their land covers multiple states and they all want to be on the same clock
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 March 2023 23:54 (one year ago) link
you guys know about India Standard Time, right? there are several areas of the world that do much wilder shenanigans with time zones than DST
― mh, Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Gz0SBwR.jpg
― calstars, Saturday, 11 March 2023 23:18 (one year ago) link
when will the madness end? hopefully in my lifetime, wish there was a grave I could piss on
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/02/1210212060/daylight-saving-time-states-2023
fuck off, Marc Rubio. Permanent Standard or GTFO
anyone defending DST will immediately be FPd, just be honest and admit that you don't care about the increased death rate
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:26 (seven months ago) link
admit that you don't care about the increased death rate
iirc, the increased death rate mainly applies during the week or two immediately following the change of clock time and the consequent disruption in sleep habits. which implies that the solution is choosing a permanent clock setting, which could be either STD or DST, as long as you stick with it. My own preference would be shifting the window of daylight forward through the entire year, iow permanent DST. So-called 'morning people' would probably disagree. If you think that's worth an FP, go ahead.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:40 (seven months ago) link
Not arguing anything just have to say it's never bothered me and I didn't realise it had serious ill-effects. I weirdly think I kind of like it because it feels like a signifier of fall and spring at times when I welcome them? I mean I'd be fine if it stopped but it hasn't ever bothered me.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:45 (seven months ago) link
When will it endHow did we get here What wrong turn did we makeIs there any fixing thisWith all my heart I wish there were a way we could turn back the clock
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:47 (seven months ago) link
ENBB otm.
I like being able to see when I walk in the morning.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:55 (seven months ago) link
giant bat fucker (gyac)Posted: 10 March 2023 at 17:21:47I know this doesn’t matter to most of you who think this is a serious issue but evenings being lighter for longer is actually extremely good if you’re female - or indeed just someone who doesn’t like going out by themselves in the dark or can’t exercise till they finish work or w/e - and like going out and about by yourself and don’t have to worry about getting home earlier. It might have positive effects on anxiety, who can say?
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:57 (seven months ago) link
And when the opposite is true, you’re not getting up and going to work in the dark. Crying about this is a crank opinion.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:58 (seven months ago) link
I had never even considered that but it's a good point. I'm sure there is a ton of people who that really impacts. Weirdly I don't love long days - it throws me off so much. I don't like it being dark at 4 (or 3:30 here) but the sun going down around 6 is my sweet spot.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:33 (seven months ago) link
Crying about this is a crank opinion.
New board masthead.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:34 (seven months ago) link
99% of my life i am struggling to make myself go to bed at a reasonable hour, and by extension, get up on time
i am very annoyed that i am currently in one of the 1% phases where i pass out super early and wake up inexplicably long before my alarm, right as we enter the "free hour of sleep" weekend
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:39 (seven months ago) link
For me this signals the end of the “sit outside at the bar after 5” period and sends me inside
― calstars, Friday, 3 November 2023 21:23 (seven months ago) link
I don't care about the increased death rate. I want to get off work in the winter and still have an hour or so of sunlight left. DGAF about summer because I'll be inside 24/7 regardless. Bring on DST 365!
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 3 November 2023 21:34 (seven months ago) link
honestly I didn’t expect to open the thread and get hit with “DST body count” but let sleeve cook
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Saturday, 4 November 2023 15:06 (seven months ago) link
ahhh
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 November 2023 06:01 (seven months ago) link
Good morning!
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 November 2023 10:37 (seven months ago) link
Running a marathon this morning. I did not hate the extra hour of sleep.
― tobo73, Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:22 (seven months ago) link
Gonna be a long ass Sunday for sure
― calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 12:31 (seven months ago) link
for some reason I didn’t put two and two together with the thread being bumped and was irritated when I woke up early this morning. But it turns out I did not technically wake up earlycats still refuse to acknowledge clocks, afaict
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:12 (seven months ago) link
Is anyone reporting on what this year’s death toll was?
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:15 (seven months ago) link
Living in the US now while still administrating a business in the UK, which put its own clocks back last week (?), and now I don't know what is what or where I am, possibly due to having to wake up at 4am every day for the past 6 months.
Back to bed I think.
― like being cornered by a drunk gareth southgate (Matt #2), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:20 (seven months ago) link
In the UK the clocks went back a week ago FYI.
― Tim, Sunday, 5 November 2023 16:48 (seven months ago) link
(Weirdly I ready your post as "next week" and thought I'd help).
My wife texted me last Monday to say "I had no idea the clocks went back yesterday!" - all her clocks had re-set automatically and she'd just snaffled the extra hour asleep: perfect.
― Tim, Sunday, 5 November 2023 16:51 (seven months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Don't you get enough attention at home or something?
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 November 2023 17:09 (seven months ago) link
Today has already lasted a year
― calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:37 (seven months ago) link
Re: deaths.
Almost no one dies during the skipped hour in the spring, though. Statistically, that's the safest hour of the year!
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:39 (seven months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:43 (seven months ago) link
That descending riff would have so much more bite on a 6 ITS 434
― calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:34 (seven months ago) link
And if I played guitar, I'd be Jimmy PageDaylight savings time makes me rage
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:54 (seven months ago) link
Lol
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:04 (seven months ago) link