ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!

I've loved being able to read on my morning walks; I guess it'll be even brighter now? I forget.

darker

• Teenagers and others with night owl tendencies and people with work start times before 8 AM will be disproportionately affected.

cool let's all just ignore the extensively documented actual harm this does, and act like it's normal (it isn't)

sleeve otm, fyi

the current system is good

strong disagree

cool let's all just ignore the extensively documented actual harm this does, and act like it's normal (it isn't)

What are the health effects of getting angry about this for several weeks a year vs getting on with your life

But daylight savings isn't an individual choice one gets to make on their own, so I don't think "voluntarily" has anything to do with this.

Yeah that’s why I was contrasting it with things people do voluntarily???

Yeah that’s why I was contrasting it with things people do voluntarily???

Like if I was concerned about cardiovascular disease there are things I could do to prevent that myself, rather than shaking my fist at the sky and going DAMN YOU DST

current system works fine for me at my latitude

but i do like complaining about the hour of sleep being stolen from me in spring and having to change the clocks with 23 button pushes in the fall

I personally like it when the government tells me to sleep an hour longer, yes sir 🫡🫡🫡

my least favorite part is when we roll clocks back in the fall and i wake up from sleep at 1 am and have to think to myself "is this proper 1 am, or is this 1 am after we rolled back".

sleeve otm, fyi

Seconded.

There are some days when I work late and I don't get home until 5:30 or 6:00. And then there are the days where I pick the kids up from school and get home around 4:30.

And I swear that one hour difference fucks me up. Looking up on those late days and going, What the hell? It's already 10:30? Of course, this situation is semi-voluntary and not the fault of the federal government.

But next week is going to be a ride, I can feel it.

fwiw, apparently this does need to be said, having strong feelings about DST is not a personal attack on anyone's own preferences

please read the posts you think you are replying to thx

already dreading having to wake up when it's still dark Monday morning (or Monday night really, it's not morning until the sun comes up). I'm going to be in a bad mood for a couple of weeks.

what was the deal with the senate bill in the us that passed last year unanimously to make dst permanent? like .. it just died afaict? i think rubio reintroduced it this year. probably has some awful riders in it or something but barring that it's gotta be the only good thing rubio has ever done.

i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to never have to think about changing the time again

I know this doesn’t matter to most of you who think this is a serious issue but evenings being lighter for longer is actually extremely good if you’re female - or indeed just someone who doesn’t like going out by themselves in the dark or can’t exercise till they finish work or w/e - and like going out and about by yourself and don’t have to worry about getting home earlier. It might have positive effects on anxiety, who can say?

The country most recently experimented with permanent daylight saving in 1974, but that ended less than a year later, after eight Florida children died in traffic accidents attributed to the change.

And how many children in Florida in the last year have died from gun – ok, this isn't the thread for that.

8 year olds shouldn't have been driving imo

what was the deal with the senate bill in the us that passed last year unanimously to make dst permanent? like .. it just died afaict? i think rubio reintroduced it this year. probably has some awful riders in it or something but barring that it's gotta be the only good thing rubio has ever done.

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this was a bit of a fluke, and there's not much chance of it passing house last I checked

As has been noted, lots of people hate changing, but can't agree on which direction to not-change.

Previous attempts to not change were greeted with... everybody hating that too. My proposed compromise of shifting a half-hour, and leaving it there, has gotten no traction whatsoever. Eh.

People are just incorrigible grouches who will hate anything, present company very much included. Which makes me wonder whether the borad name "I Love Everything" carries more than a trace of irony.

definitely want more daylight toward the evening fwiw, can never keep my directionality oriented correctly when this topic comes up

Honestly, I'd be fine with just going back to the previous dates for the time changes (around 20 years ago). Just make it so the Sun rises later than 7am for the fewest days possible in a year.

act like it's normal (it isn't)

I can sympathize with the feeling that prompted that statement, but all clock times and time zones are contrivances imposed on natural cycles and rhythms in order for society to regulate itself more efficiently. normal is whatever people accept as the norm. you happen not to accept DST and therefore it isn't normal for you, but individuals don't decide norms. that's societal. it's natural for you to object to DST, but it is normal.

Think instead of four time zones across the contiguous 48 states, there should be eight.

That's not far off from the "local time" state that existed before time zones.

Aimless makes a reasonable point that it's all pretty arbitrary

the sun is the same in a relative way but it's later

I'd rather have fucked up health effects than lose an hour of evenings in the summer

That's not far off from the "local time" state that existed before time zones.

Yeah, but I meant by latitude, not longitude.

I meant by latitude

Let's get 'er done! But first, we must prioritize the abolition of the US penny, because we're already this close to living that dream!

lol mookie

We have a new AZ employee, and they don't adhere to Daylight Savings there - except, she tells us, on the Navajo Nation where they do adopt it, since their land covers multiple states and they all want to be on the same clock

you guys know about India Standard Time, right? there are several areas of the world that do much wilder shenanigans with time zones than DST

https://i.imgur.com/Gz0SBwR.jpg

when will the madness end? hopefully in my lifetime, wish there was a grave I could piss on

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/02/1210212060/daylight-saving-time-states-2023

fuck off, Marc Rubio. Permanent Standard or GTFO

anyone defending DST will immediately be FPd, just be honest and admit that you don't care about the increased death rate

admit that you don't care about the increased death rate

iirc, the increased death rate mainly applies during the week or two immediately following the change of clock time and the consequent disruption in sleep habits. which implies that the solution is choosing a permanent clock setting, which could be either STD or DST, as long as you stick with it. My own preference would be shifting the window of daylight forward through the entire year, iow permanent DST. So-called 'morning people' would probably disagree. If you think that's worth an FP, go ahead.

Not arguing anything just have to say it's never bothered me and I didn't realise it had serious ill-effects. I weirdly think I kind of like it because it feels like a signifier of fall and spring at times when I welcome them? I mean I'd be fine if it stopped but it hasn't ever bothered me.

When will it end

How did we get here

What wrong turn did we make

Is there any fixing this

With all my heart I wish there were a way we could turn back the clock

ENBB otm.

I like being able to see when I walk in the morning.

giant bat fucker (gyac)
Posted: 10 March 2023 at 17:21:47
I know this doesn’t matter to most of you who think this is a serious issue but evenings being lighter for longer is actually extremely good if you’re female - or indeed just someone who doesn’t like going out by themselves in the dark or can’t exercise till they finish work or w/e - and like going out and about by yourself and don’t have to worry about getting home earlier. It might have positive effects on anxiety, who can say?

And when the opposite is true, you’re not getting up and going to work in the dark. Crying about this is a crank opinion.

I had never even considered that but it's a good point. I'm sure there is a ton of people who that really impacts. Weirdly I don't love long days - it throws me off so much. I don't like it being dark at 4 (or 3:30 here) but the sun going down around 6 is my sweet spot.

Crying about this is a crank opinion.

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