like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

⚡️Vоlоdуmуr Zelenskyi met with the leader of the Labor Party and the UK's official opposition, Cyrus Starmer. pic.twitter.com/uTBF2HmkkZ

— FLASH (@Flash_news_ua) February 16, 2023

Cyrus talks to VZ in the same bad way he talks to everyone else, but with loud music to obscure it.

Last night I watched part of QUESTION TIME. Calzino may be amused to know that the Labour spokesperson on it was Stephen Kinnock. It took me a while to realise who he was.

Lionel Shriver was on it seeming rather like an old lady who had trouble with movement. She said "the UK should withdraw from the ECHR, though the Conservatives naturally don't want to do that".

It will give you an idea of the programme to hear that the most prominent principled and liberal voice was ... Ian Hislop.

Ugh, sounds hideous.

Good tweet!

Average age here (mean) is 60 and median is 62. The median age in the U.K. as a whole is 40.

It’s genuinely puzzling how normal this is. Someone in their 40s is considered young in the political media space when it’s older than the average U.K. citizen. What does that mean? > https://t.co/euWq9daqFJ

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) February 16, 2023

I had no idea Ruth Wishart was still around tbh.

Last night I watched part of QUESTION TIME. Calzino may be amused to know that the Labour spokesperson on it was Stephen Kinnock. It took me a while to realise who he was.

Lionel Shriver was on it seeming rather like an old lady who had trouble with movement. She said "the UK should withdraw from the ECHR, though the Conservatives naturally don't want to do that".

It will give you an idea of the programme to hear that the most prominent principled and liberal voice was ... Ian Hislop.

Lionel Shriver happily had a mug supporting the UFF who murdered hundreds of Catholics and some Protestants during the troubles but she is invited on to Question Time..🤔#bbcqt pic.twitter.com/4jM2eWK5Vb

— Tom Hagans. 🏳️‍🌈🌹 (@Tomhg) November 29, 2019

ugh! deport Lionel Shriver. I just caught the start of desert island discs and for a second I thought she was this week's guest and was going to say are you taking the fucking piss here. It was David Sedaris, who has a very similar voice and accent.

I heard Sedaris and had a slightly similar thought!

It was a funny programme because he kept saying things like - 'So how did you feel about your father, David?' 'I HATED him! I was so glad when he died!' - in a very blithe and camp way.

Had no idea about this UFF angle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association

How can she broadcast that affliation and be invited on TV ?!?

Didn't know she was quite that bonkers.

She's an outspoken white supremacist so no surprises

xxp

lol, I find that very relatable. Might even listen to the rest of it now.

Had no idea about this UFF angle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association🕸

How can she broadcast that affliation and be invited on TV ?!?

Didn't know she was quite that bonkers.

Didn't know she was quite that bonkers.

That's not being bonkers that's being scum.

Wonder if this formula had gone around the Labour right whatsapp groups. Note how, feeling confident that the public now associates Left with antisemitism (and that's been solved now), we get a return to why they really oppose the left: for being critical of NATO/police/business. pic.twitter.com/bB8hX2VVXf

— Ben Goren (@BanGaoRen) February 18, 2023

we don't get an ilx ban for fantasising about killing these cunts with a hammer, right?

I think you can get away with it now, without getting accused of being Thomas Mair!

officially worse than the Tories

to say that they might not actually be a vehicle for social change would be a fucking mike gapingly huge understatement at this point.

i wd rather eat a plateful of my own rich essence than enable these wankers

I know there is still some good people left in the membership, but I would be very judgemental against anyone who could still campaign for these cunts in good conscience.

Most of the ppl in the membership that I know of that are on the left aren't campaigning.

Looks like the University staff strike is not going great, many unhappy with UCU's handling of it.

so I gather we’re going to get a pension restoration that was probably already on the cards, some vague unenforceable promises on zero hours, and the pay offer that was recently rejected, and told well done on the grand victory

— migra falko (@migrafalko) February 18, 2023

UCU always felt like a feeb union when i was in it

UCU seem a very online 'militant' union.

i was in the grudgingly accepted non-teaching sector

Debate is healthy. Challenge is healthy. Criticism is healthy.

This is not healthy and it’s not right. And I know the vast majority of our members won’t accept it.

Our members deserve better than this vile rubbish. pic.twitter.com/6E8imPRhlC

— Jo Grady (@DrJoGrady) February 18, 2023

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9SLXNI9pfP7L5zs67rjnWuT_ho1oVfYsJpQ&usqp=CAU

Labour’s YvetteCooper is pledging to introduce a beefed up version of Asbos - ‘Respect Orders’ - to tackle antisocial behaviour.

They can't wait to invade another country.

The really testing time of any Starmer govt will come if they have to cut spending (or not increase it all), while fighting alongside the US/ Nato somewhere. Then the tide of abuse - especially to women and Jewish MPs - will get very fierce indeed. Could get frightening. pic.twitter.com/tCW7efxM7m

— Glen O'Hara (@gsoh31) February 19, 2023

they're really hammering this line eh

“The vile misogynists and antisemites will come out of the woodwork when the department of value for money regretfully murders more people with austerity, could get frightening” lol this is so transparently ghoulish it’s approaching funny at this point

it's not very convincing and kind of absurd on its face but they can get enough people to believe it through brute force repetition. I know a few people who are by temperament much further left than they let on but have been convinced their own preferred polices are somehow antisemitic, I don't think they could explain why but they're good patriotic old labourites who trust what the BBC says, its a public service you know

the british war machine is inherently jewish and feminist now which seems as offensive as any conspiracist corbynite online rant to me but what do I know

it sort of feels like they're trying to provoke the more boneheaded elements of the left into being (even) more misogynist and antisemitic while provoking the left in general into anger so it can all be conflated, because they seem to really that outcome in spite of their words

I am just so sick of millions of decent people being othered like this.

Yes. It has been a massive anti-racist campaign aimed at increasing racism, and fear, anger, division and confusion about racism.

It’s Kate Forbes’ to lose https://t.co/mqshXFzZvX

— Rory Scothorne (@shirkerism) February 20, 2023

let's fucking hope not

I think more christian fundamentalism is not what Scotland needs right now

My wife's friend has the same name, so that's going to be a drag for her.

Actually no, she remarried.

Ok, as you was.

serves me right for not paying attention to the news or apparently this thread closely enough but was shocked to get a letter informing me that I would need photo ID to vote in the forthcoming local elections. I had vaguely assumed this was some duplicitous tory scheme that they had floated the idea for but hadn't actually gone through parliament yet. as my mum said they're determined to get election turnout below 30% come the next general election.

the local council will give you a voter registration card. requirements are almost stupidly low, considering, like digital photo and a NI number.

and postal voting, which is the thing they've flagged up in the past as being fraudulent, doesn't need id

but yes, lower than vermin.

https://www.gov.uk/how-to-vote/photo-id-youll-need

https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificate

still too much hassle just so i can turn up and write "Kieth is a cunt" on my ballot paper

(expired passports are ok as long as the resemblance is still there. which would be my route but there are no local elections around my way this time)

thx koogs . I do actually have a passport which i need not because I've been abroad in the last twenty years(I haven't) but so I could get and renew my airport id for working at Gatwick. just seems like this requirement is so transparently targeting the poor when noone in good faith really believes there is a big problem with voter fraud in UK elections

I don't have fuck all photo ID either, only ever drove the roads on a push iron and never had a passport in my life. But my problem is that I suspect with a lot more than just a nagging hunch, that Labour will be targeting the poor and disabled people with just as much cold contempt as we have become accustomed to in the last 13 years - or with some reasonable suspicion, maybe even a bit more!

Campaign update pic.twitter.com/qgHqeajiM0

— Euan Yours (@EuanYours) February 20, 2023

Just amazing.

It is deeply funny that Forbes’ supporters spent days performing an elaborate dalliance around her highly conservative political views only for her to loudly proclaim them on day one. https://t.co/qqqHEOnXDM

— Ewan Gibbs (@ewangibbs) February 20, 2023

"she's the one the Tories fear the most" - The Spectator

lol, yeah one hell of a smart right-wing politician!

What did anyone expect? She's a Wee Free!

she is a great example as to why after independence the very first thing many scots would seek is to get rid of the SNP.