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We switched from French press to Chemex a few years ago and I do prefer it, I think it's smoother, but obv I don't turn my nose up at French press either. After we're done brewing, we pour off fresh cups and then put the rest in an insulated carafe, which keeps it warm for as long as it takes us to finish out the pot. An extra step but well worth it imo.

can’t stand cold coffee

flopson, Sunday, 22 January 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

i think if you make more it stays warm longer, because the volume gets bigger faster than the surface area. but yes, that’s the classic pitfall with chemex, that the coffee cools down pretty fast.

i have the handblown glass one and would not put it on an electric coil or gas stove. even pyrex can crack if it’s not thick (the chemex isn’t) and heated too quickly

what i do is heat my kettle to boiling and pour the whole thing in my chemex before i wet the filter. then i heat the kettle to 204. then i pour out the water. it cleans the chemex and warms it up enough that it doesn’t cool down too fast. i also put boiling water in my mug while i make my morning three cups. i also don’t like scalding hot coffee anyway!

there are people that make snuggies for chemexes that look like cute like zip up sweatshirts. bit twee for me!

the late great, Sunday, 22 January 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

not wanting to waste a paper filter for a single cup is a good reason not to use a chemex!

the late great, Sunday, 22 January 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

flopson you want the technivorm moccamaster which brews directly into an insulated carafe

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0528/3545/1043/products/MoccaMaster_Set_79317_KBGT_StoneGrey_3467-02_1001f408-c325-46d1-93d5-ce8190fd620e_800x.png?v=1672772472

, Sunday, 22 January 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link

Technivooooooooorm

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 22 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

i do the heat-up tricks (and also tend to drink smaller stronger cups) on ceramic hario v60. i don’t really mind making coffee multiple times a day; always looking for a reason to procrastinate

flopson, Sunday, 22 January 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link

who’s a handsome boy

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

I stayed at a friend's place who has a Moccamaster and it was truly good coffee, as good as a good pourover.

Another friend got one, liked it, then became disillusioned with it, cleaned it, and then liked it again, lol.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 22 January 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

flopson you want the technivorm moccamaster which brews directly into an insulated carafe

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0528/3545/1043/products/MoccaMaster_Set_79317_KBGT_StoneGrey_3467-02_1001f408-c325-46d1-93d5-ce8190fd620e_800x.png?v=1672772472

― 龜, Sunday, 22 January 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hm this actually looks sick. we were just talking about how we need a way to make coffee when we have guests over and it looks like there’s one 50% off at wayfair… might cop

flopson, Sunday, 22 January 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

oh those are great. If I was going to buy another drip maker, that's the one I'd get.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

people

i’ve cut back to one cup a day :(

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

Says who, some quack doctor??

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link

Says who, some quack doctor??

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link

yeah i’m down 1 cup a day on weekdays but i cheat it to two cups on weekends because coffee fucking rules

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link

i only drink one cup most days, but its very large

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 04:11 (one year ago) link

It’s nighttime but I’m drinking coffee right now

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 23 January 2023 05:01 (one year ago) link

moccamasters look great. appreciate that they’re not too “interior design”-y. i see these more expensive ones made with walnut and other fancy wood. around hot water? or they have lots of thin-looking glass parts. these on the other hand look suitably utilitarian

the late great, Monday, 23 January 2023 05:18 (one year ago) link

voooorm

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 23 January 2023 05:32 (one year ago) link

I like that sort of sweet flavor you get when you really dial in the proportions on a light roast. Might get a chemex and see if I get more of that.

That's generally the type of flavor that I go for with my pour-over setup. Somewhat light-bodied, light roasts, freshly roasted, generally made not too strong (I use 30g of coffee for about 550ml of coffee - enough for two 10oz mugs). I switch between a Hario V60 and a Kalita Wave, depending on my mood. Results are similar with either. When I want to make a smaller amount I use an Aeropress. In my experience, that often produces a slightly sweeter, less bright flavor than the pour-over. But it only makes enough for one small cup (after adding some hot water to dilute it).

o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

how many grams of coffee in this big cup?

i started doing 25g in 400ml instead of 500 to accommodate new thermoses. i wonder if i lost out on some kick

Our Bonavita died and i got a metal French press I'm going to use forever. Costariccan sock when I'm feeling fancy.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 23 January 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

I am doing 50g coffee to 800g water in french press for my wife and I to each have two small cups. I'm starting to think my brew time is too long, especially with this natural coffee I have now.

My wife makes the coffee half the time and just eyeballs everything. I think I'm more consistent, but it's not like night and day.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

I figured out approximately how long it takes my grinder to crank out one unit of ground coffee and just leave it at that setting

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

re brew times i will share with the coffee thread a fun coffee brewing knowledge, coffee brews in three phases which we can detect the smells of, the first one smells vegetal sort of grassy if you will and the coffee has very little body if you stopped here it would be the classic weak under extracted cup of cof, the second phase is the good stuff it smells like chocolate and has body and other good things like caffeine, the third phase is where the bitterness comes in you want a lil bitterness but not too much a very bitter cup is over extracted coffee, so you want to complete the second phase a do a little of the third thats the ideal cup of coffee more or less

so with a french press say you could remove the top give it a lil stir and smell it a few times during the brew, or even better is to make cowboy coffee and just smell it the whole time

i found that learning to detect those phases helped me to become a better and more fulfilled coffee person and its just interesting, also when someone steals coffee from a pot thats still brewing and thinks theyre getting the good stuff when really theyre getting the bad stuff and fucking up the balance of the whole pot its kind of funny

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

damn, lag∞n dropping the deep knowledge

also, I pulled my carafe out mid brew this morning to pour a cup :(

mh, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

smh

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

when someone steals coffee from a pot thats still brewing and thinks theyre getting the good stuff

I hate it when baristas do that, but I bite my tongue. It happens sometimes because they didnt notice the pot was empty. So they start it brewing and then fill your cup from the pot while its still brewing.

o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

thats a major violation

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link

lol thanks for this. venturing out to the coffee internet only confuses me

been getting on well with the 50g in 800ml, 4 minute French press for me and the missus daily. 91 Celsius. naturally

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link

thats a major violation

Yeah, probably what I should do is when I see them start brewing a fresh pot, is to change my order to an Americano.

o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

800ml yield

🤔

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

re brew times i will share with the coffee thread a fun coffee brewing knowledge, coffee brews in three phases which we can detect the smells of, the first one smells vegetal sort of grassy if you will and the coffee has very little body if you stopped here it would be the classic weak under extracted cup of cof, the second phase is the good stuff it smells like chocolate and has body and other good things like caffeine, the third phase is where the bitterness comes in you want a lil bitterness but not too much a very bitter cup is over extracted coffee, so you want to complete the second phase a do a little of the third thats the ideal cup of coffee more or less

so with a french press say you could remove the top give it a lil stir and smell it a few times during the brew, or even better is to make cowboy coffee and just smell it the whole time

i found that learning to detect those phases helped me to become a better and more fulfilled coffee person and its just interesting, also when someone steals coffee from a pot thats still brewing and thinks theyre getting the good stuff when really theyre getting the bad stuff and fucking up the balance of the whole pot its kind of funny

― lag∞n, Monday, January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ah, this makes so much sense. I have actually tried pouring from the carafe before the brew is finished and noticed it doesn't taste right. I have also definitely noticed in doing my pour-over that pouring too little or too much water (or taking too little or too much time) can really impact the taste.

I've always been too lazy to measure water and grinds, but I should probably start. I just kind of eyeball it. TBF sometimes I feel like I can tell a lot from the quality and color of the foam that bubbles up on the coffee while I'm pouring. The grinds speak to me.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

your bog standard hardware store food scale is now so good, i can't imagine measuring beans any other way. i get roasts all over the map so not going to try to get to eyeballing.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

shd add that theres kind of a phase zero too think a lot of people know about this "the bloom" where the grounds are gassing off and brewing isnt happening at all its just air coming out, thats why people sometimes throw away the first bit of a pour over then continue

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

^^^^^ a scale is like 25 bucks

a (waterface), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

I've heard that as a thing to do with recently roasted beans. Doubt I could ever tell the difference between bloomed and not.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

i think just dilutes the cup a little, yr basically pouring water through grounds and theyre releasing gasses instead of liquid so what comes out the other end is more water than coffee, personally dont think its a big deal, its is kind of fun to watch it bloom in a french press or whatever the grounds all puff up

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

That's my favorite thing in the whole process, that really rich looking foam when the coffee is blooming and before adding the rest of the water is very satisfying for some reason.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it looks cool, although generally smells a bit sour and funky at that stage.

o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

I make coffee with an Aeropress and I find it hard to make a bitter cup regardless of brew time, but that might also have to do with the fact that I'm using a pretty large dose of the cof part of coffee.

death generator (lukas), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

I bought half and half this week fo rreasons I will keep secret. However I will say the deeper load of milkcream certainly inlfuences the overall pasring of the coffee onto the taste buds?

| (Latham Green), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

would imagine the areopress loses temp pretty fast prob has something to do with it, its a weird method cause u let it brew sitting there in the water like say a french press but then it also relies on pressure like espresso xp

lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

the nicest thing abt an aeropress is its little sigh of joy

mark s, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

correct

this is also when, if i’m reading lagoon right, the bitterness is released, which also checks out

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

the bitterness is released out of me, to be replaced by content*

*all possible meanings

mark s, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

"So don't be tempted by the shiny apple
Don't you eat of a bitter fruit
Hunger only for a taste of justice
Hunger only for a world of truth
'Cause all that you have is your soul"

Tracy Chapman

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

xp yeah I've experimented with tossing out the "bloom" water but haven't noticed a big difference.

On the flipside, the worst fucking thing ever is when you realize you forgot to toss the water you used to wash the filter. I need a cup of coffee so I can make my coffee amirite folks

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

lol i did that once with the last beans i had, sad day

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link


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