Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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I think it's great that ChatGPT has exposed Nick Cave as totally hollow talent after someone asking it something like "write some shite knockoff Flann O'Brien lyrics about murdering women in the style of a sad old aging goth"

calzino, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

Certainly a bit of a moment of reckoning for secondary school teachers and university professors who assign essays that are basically "regurgitate this week's syllabus in your own words please". They are going to have to get more creative in their assignments and that's got to be a good thing!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link

who would have known, CNET

When internet sleuths discovered last week that CNET had quietly published dozens of feature articles generated entirely by artificial intelligence, the popular tech site acknowledged that it was true — but described the move as a mere experiment.

Now, though, in a scenario familiar to any sci-fi fan, the experiment seems to have run amok: The bots have betrayed the humans.

Specifically, it turns out the bots are no better at journalism — and perhaps a bit worse — than their would-be human masters.

On Tuesday, CNET began appending lengthy correction notices to some of its AI-generated articles after Futurism, another tech site, called out the stories for containing some “very dumb errors.”

An automated article about compound interest, for example, incorrectly said a $10,000 deposit bearing 3 percent interest would earn $10,300 after the first year. Nope. Such a deposit would actually earn just $300.

More broadly, CNET and sister publication Bankrate, which has also published bot-written stories, have now disclosed qualms about the accuracy of the dozens of automated articles they’ve published since November.

New notices appended to several other pieces of AI-generated work state that “we are currently reviewing this story for accuracy,” and that “if we find errors, we will update and issue corrections.”

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 06:19 (one year ago) link

which is cheaper - a writer and an editor a decent wage, or hire just an editor (probably not at a decent wage)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 06:20 (one year ago) link

New notices appended to several other pieces of AI-generated work state that “we are currently reviewing this story for accuracy,” and that “if we find errors, we will update and issue corrections.”

stuff a bot would say

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 06:32 (one year ago) link

i want to say something positive. because, reading this thread, i think i give the wrong impression. i feel that way about a lot of stuff, a lot of topics.

i think there's ai and creativity don't have to be enemies. i don't think i'll ever be a person that uses it as part of the process, but i already think about it and think about it as something akin to google image search, back when google image search was good, something you can modify and play with and use in unexpected ways. a couple weeks ago i prompted one of the crappy free ones, craiyon, with "pink floyd album covers with babes and butts", just wanting to see what it would do.

https://i.imgur.com/8ePC0l0.png

i'm not sure what that is. and if and when i ever made a drawing or a painting from that, i would change a lot. there's no point to trying to replicate it. but the left butt is incredible, as it the bikini in the middle, and i love how the black swimwear on the right doesn't make sense. it's like a miniskirt on the beach, with grumpy neil young nearby. it's a good prompt for making art. it doesn't make sense to look at it (to me) and disregard it out of hand because the source was a computer. those horizontal lines on the left and his rectangle arm. that's weird, and good, and thought provoking to me

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 07:45 (one year ago) link

i love how all three of the figures on the right are taller than the black-clad figure on the left

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 07:56 (one year ago) link

which is cheaper - a writer and an editor a decent wage, or hire just an editor (probably not at a decent wage)

― Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Or it's everyone being "paired" with an AI. So you have a editor paired with an AI, or a paired programmer. The point is to downgrade the value of what people can do, and therefore downgrade their wages.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 January 2023 08:42 (one year ago) link

As bad as a lot of AI art is, CrAIyon is amongst the worst at making images.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 January 2023 10:24 (one year ago) link

xposts - I agree, the USP of something like Craiyon is the inspirational randomness, the uncanny parts, not the final product

I think ChatGPT (or a version of it) has serious worth for students who struggle with essay-writing, helping them craft arguments and structure paragraphs of writing; it's a good writing tutor, if you can resist the temptation to copy-and-paste

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link

sorry, "paragraphs of writing" is a horrible phrase, should've used a chatbot

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:28 (one year ago) link

those horizontal lines on the left and his rectangle arm.

that's just a brick wall, no? prompted by "pink floyd" I assume

current GPT is way too error-prone to let students use it unsupervised imo

rob, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link

"Joan, Maximilien Robespierre was not the original drummer for the Beatles. F-"

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/16/tech/facial-recognition-fashion/index.html

"Didero, 29, who’s studying for a PhD ... says the idea for Cap_able came to her when she was on a Masters exchange at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York."

alternatively she could've read Zero History by william gibson from 2010

koogs, Thursday, 26 January 2023 09:38 (one year ago) link

I was arguing with chat gpt about what was Ed Wood's final film - I think it won

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 26 January 2023 13:12 (one year ago) link

Source: https://t.co/HpAO2lQ6zm

— Genevieve Roch-Decter, CFA (@GRDecter) January 26, 2023

for now, it's just for "making more comprehensive quizzes, interactive content"

the market seems pleased by this efficiency

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

i'll show myself out
https://drayk.it/song/ac9fb806ce86493eb3bdf35224100115

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 January 2023 06:25 (one year ago) link

https://google-research.github.io/seanet/musiclm/examples/

interesting

| (Latham Green), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

lol forks

https://drayk.it/song/7511f00ee39e40c78919f4e84d3fcc8c

| (Latham Green), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

the ai songs latham posted are not good per se, but they're eerily good for some ai generated bullshit. the tempo seems really off for a lot of them though.

treeship., Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:53 (one year ago) link

ChatGPT's Ian Curtis lyrics were poor - but its Bernard Sumner lyrics were very plausible indeed

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:58 (one year ago) link

the MusicLM stuff is interesting but you can definitely tell it's AI, it's full of audio sludge and it sometimes hits the space that's like between two notes. that said some of this sounds pretty modern to the point where I kinda wonder if this technology has actually been around for a while. like it would not surprise me to find out all those Swedish songwriting teams have been using something like this for years and just curating the best parts

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:21 (one year ago) link

The hybrid or “centaur “ approach to ai as a tool rather than human replacement

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

ChatGPT's Ian Curtis lyrics were poor - but its Bernard Sumner lyrics were very plausible indeed

― Zelda Zonk, Monday, January 30, 2023 10:58 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Haha well I mean....

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

actually really good

https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

you had to be there but this was a moment

https://i.imgur.com/f4okuVh.png

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link

Every Sumner lyric involves some awkward bit of inadvertent crashing bathos, this is probably ideal for an AI.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link

making characters look directly at camera pic.twitter.com/Yl9hG31Ae9

— ActionMovieDad (@ActionMovieKid) January 24, 2023

alright this is kinda freaky (also very funny)

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 03:48 (one year ago) link

actually really good

https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever🕸


Very reminiscent of David Lynch's Rabbits

Alba, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 08:36 (one year ago) link

No joke, I watched for almost four hours straight. It’s one of those things that is going to get worse as they “improve” it.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

https://drayk.it/song/fa8e821cd63d44168180101aa372081b

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

if that's the Seinfeld thing yeah that's a lot of fun. not funny per se but entertaining enough to be watchable

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link

fuck. the best part about the seinfeld thing was the chat. now it's horrible. when it was <1000 followers it was actually a followable chat with distinct people that made really funny comments and built up the lore. now it's an endless stream that you can't even read. the period during which is was really good was...about 12 hours. seriously. it's really sad. i count those 12 hours where it was comprehensible as one of the greatest technological art achievements of this century. i know that sounds stupid as fuck but it's actually true. now it's a fucking mess. rip the best half day of ai art ever

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 February 2023 05:06 (one year ago) link

and no, it's not AI, i know, jfc

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 February 2023 05:08 (one year ago) link

is it not? how do it work?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link

need to fork chat

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link

is it not? how do it work?

They got the old writers' room back together and they're churning it out 24/7!

Alba, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

Way too many hucksters have pretended that synthesis methods are somehow not compression methods so it’s nice to see empirical evidence that a handful of synthesis methods (e.g., the popular energy-based models) can reconstruct their training data.

Models such as Stable Diffusion are trained on copyrighted, trademarked, private, and sensitive images.

Yet, our new paper shows that diffusion models memorize images from their training data and emit them at generation time.

Paper: https://t.co/LQuTtAskJ9

👇[1/9] pic.twitter.com/ieVqkOnnoX

— Eric Wallace (@Eric_Wallace_) January 31, 2023

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

https://drayk.it/song/4d4a31c833f14196a2e82f61b0e26b93

this banger

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

I have actually thought about this, the idea that AI could generate these sort of sitcoms "live", in real time, actually opens the door for a genuinely new type of comedy show

frogbs, Thursday, 2 February 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

coming soon to adult swim

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

maybe could also generate a basketball game?

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

Oh for sure, not to mention baseball, with its convenient discrete events.

This reminded me that several sports bookmakers already have "virtual" horse races etc where you can bet on the outcomes of a computer simulation, i.e. nothing but a somewhat glorified casino game with a guaranteed edge for the house (in contrast to actual noisy sport events, where the edge is just in an expected-value sense, not guaranteed). Seems inevitable that the gambling industry will pick up this kind of stuff in a few ways, if it hasn't already.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 February 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link

Generating sports events is a doddle, computer games been doing it for 40 years. Championship Manager and others simulate an entire football world. Generating 'realistic' visuals of simulated sports is the big hump to get over, but if it can be done... well, hopefully fewer rapists in AI generated sports at least eh

Bully King and Chips (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 3 February 2023 10:22 (one year ago) link

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dK4AAOSw3rFdNFBN/s-l400.jpg

koogs, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah but people don't watch sports just for sports, it's the whole off field/court drama, soap opera machinations of management, weird and/or bitchy quotes, messy social media antics, etc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

have to come up with a program that
1. generates games
2. generates off field dramas and conflicts
3. potential shower scenes too

| (Latham Green), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

I wonder how much of Nothing, Forever is being archived - I've seen some clips posted, so some people are recording it. I'd like to see a website that's just a transcript of all the dialogue

soref, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

my friends and I used to put 5 bucks down on CPU vs. CPU games of Madden, that was always fun

frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link


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