like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

i'm not saying that the SNP have engineered this legal battle to build their own support

but it certainly will help with that

I wouldn't be so sure about that tbh. It shows just how determined the Tories are to turn trans rights into the next divide-and-conquer issue, they're willing to trash devolution to do so.

Tories have hated devolution the whole time, right?

Not all of them but those kind of Tories are pretty thin on the ground these days. The UK government has never blocked a bill passed by the Scottish Parliament in its entire existence - and look at the hill they've decided devolution should die on.

"It shows just how determined the Tories are to turn trans rights into the next divide-and-conquer issue, they're willing to trash devolution to do so."

Shows how bad things are for them.

not much of a divide and conquer thing when starmer's on their side:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64281548

Starmer's obviously listening to the same focus groups.

i'm sure the bigots who will applaud the Tories for this are largely already Tories, whereas the intervention from Westminster is likely to harden support for independence amongst Scots whose every waking moment isn't consumed with genital policing i'd've thought

like, Westminster attacking devolution surely builds a case for the SNP's core demand?

Lots of people vote SNP and by no means all of them are socially liberal or in favour of Scottish independence or both. My brother informs me that one of his best friends and a guy both of us have known for years is completely obsessed with the trans issue and I'm pretty sure he has not only never voted Tory in his life but is a rock solid SNP supporter. Anyway the Tories have already said they're not going to allow a second independence referendum anyway so they don't seem that bothered about irritating Scottish nationalists.

I mean, obviously most people aren't bothered about trans issues at the moment but the media and the Tory Party will be going full guns blazing for the next few years - well, the media have already started - in the hope they hammer it into a whole lot of empty noggins before the next election.

Like Brexit, this would be a 20 year project. And the EU is an actual thing.

Anyway Lab ofc aren't challenging anything. Like that word is in their vocabulary.

they're challenging my will not to go full Red Army Faction tbf

obviously most people aren't bothered about trans issues at the moment but the media and the Tory Party will be going full guns blazing for the next few years

they've already been at that for years, not sure what's supposed to change there

not surprising but incredibly bleak that starmer's now to the right of theresa may here

I'd say blocking a bill voted for by the Scottish Parliament for the first time ever is upping the ante.

Starmer is such a vile piece of shit he's even making Sarwar seem not completely horrible.

there is something truly astonishing about the two major stories from yesterday's news being "people who want to live as women are a threat to women so we better make some simple bureaucracy impossibly difficult" and "here is yet another example of men who are actually a threat to women being enabled to commit violent crimes over several decades"

this country does not give a fuck about women's rights and safety at all, it is 100% about punching down on a minority, and I fucking loathe it

Amazing, this is what happens when we're actually given a chance to speak for ourselves without some bigoted crank yelling over us. https://t.co/YD02b3JU9e

— Sarah Clarke 🚂🚬 (@DamselDystopia) January 17, 2023

The yelling bigoted crank is on Sky News in the mornings: Kay Burley.

the more quietly spoken bigoted crank on ITV this morning: Sonia Sodha.

NEW:the Information Commissioner's Office confirms that @uklabour will not face any action over the leaking of a controversial document in 2020 which contained confidential messages.The ICO is also taking no action against those Labour accused of the leak: https://t.co/Y04k9omlCO

— iain watson (@iainjwatson) January 17, 2023

As UK Labour attempt to land themselves comfortably on the fence with the Gender Recognition Reform S35 order, a Scottish Labour source writes:

"The long and short of it is the PLP (Parliamentary Labour Party) includes a load of transphobes and Starmer is terrified of them."

— Conor Matchett (@conor_matchett) January 17, 2023

hmmmm

And Blaydon isn’t in Scotland.

Oh wait sorry I misread that- for some reason I thought it meant the Scottish PLP and made a joke. No idea what IM thinks of it obvs.

the Scottish Tories have been goading him "to take a side", which is something the former Scottish Labour leader, Dugdale, hasn't been shy about and has been getting abuse from transphobes. Even some of the Labour baddies from the Corbyn years don't even seem that bad in comparison to Starmer these days.

Corbyn didn't vote against the section 35 order, obv he must have had a good excuse not to be there because even Farron voted against it!

Paired? Thornberry also not around.

it probably was a pairing, lol I wonder who he's paired with.

I read some stuff about it not being a vote for or against the section 35, which doesn't require Parliamentary approval, but just some procedural acknowledgement that they'd had a debate

they could eliminate the need for ‘pairing’ tomorrow with any will, just by letting MPs proxy vote via their own Westminster staff. But it would undermine the studied, performative exclusivity. The pantomime that these 650 mostly rotten bastards are simply better than us plebs

— wariotifo (@wariotifo) January 18, 2023

and you always get all this: that was the third reading pre-emptive vote, so it doesn't actually count bollocks. No doubt to kill a bit of time till the subsidised bar opens or make it look like more of a complex process than us plebs can comprehend!

Parliament needs to be reformed, you'd think Kieth would be all over this shit

Just realised that when this thread starter, 6 months ago, Johnson was still PM. Bit of a head rush

I heard Kwarteng on the radio last night and had a giddy moment thinking about his very brief moment of hubris. And even that seemed longer than 6 months ago somehow.

not to worry tho, the gov will soon make it illegal to look up when things happened online

Diane Abbott didn't vote against section 35 either, might write a letter.

I've seen someone suggesting that Corbyn isn't paired with anyone as an independent because it is an arrangement that is done by the party whips or something like that.

Be interesting to see if you get a response Daniel. Her views on sex work are not good.

Talk about kicking the can down the road.

Making pensions private and then moving people out of even having the private pension is fucking evil

It's literally what Pinochet did!! https://t.co/pZY4PD3P0G

— dan (@BierIncognito) January 18, 2023

Faced with successive cuts to their service and their pay, thousands of Environment Agency workers in England are on strike today for the first time in their history.

I spoke to some of them for @tribunemagazine.https://t.co/LxHvmwaolp

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) January 18, 2023

Dear Jacinda,
Have a well-deserved rest, and then please come and be PM of the UK.

— A C Grayling #FBPE #Reform #Rejoin #FBPR (@acgrayling) January 19, 2023

I thought it was allegedly the left that need to get with the realpolitik and duck their head out of the clouds, but he's probably just a dirty old man!

I've been mulling a "RIP the Queen of Centrist Hearts" tweet all day but I shd've known there'd be dumb fucks doing them for real

Grayling might be the stupidest fuck who's ever had the temerity to put "philosopher" on his cv

come now

Jacinda said "politicians are humans" - that's one reason why I'll never take her seriously.

I thought about it for 30 seconds before I posted and I'm inclined to stand by that thought

Agree with all that but the amount of hatred towards her and glee at her resigning from those world renowned British Right Wing Pundits is something to see.

... yes, I've been reading the Daily Telegraph again.

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