U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:31 (three years ago)

I came to drop bombs

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:33 (three years ago)

I got more stoves than the Bible's got psalms

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:53 (three years ago)

now we’re cooking with gas!!!!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:02 (three years ago)

All Gas No Steaks

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:10 (three years ago)

would probably be more effective, climate change–wise

rob, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:14 (three years ago)

A novel about ventilation systems = fan fiction

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:28 (three years ago)

there are now 5 different GOP freshmen reps from NY calling for Santos to resign, in addition to non-congressmen like the Nassau County GOP, etc

he won't leave until he is forced to, but seems notable

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:40 (three years ago)

they shd let him stay its funny

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:42 (three years ago)

it's tough for santos because i'm not sure he can make the leap to newsmax without saying something really funny or stupid during this critical time. we know him a chronic liar, but he needs something extra in order to stand out in a crowded field

xp!!

that's probably his angle -- he knows that the longer he stays, the more chances the funniness has to bloom

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:43 (three years ago)

A compromise: Santos should stay, but those 5 GOP freshmen reps should resign.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:45 (three years ago)

how can you not root for this guy

https://i.imgur.com/IAqlYPi.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:45 (three years ago)

Who among us etc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:46 (three years ago)

oh fuck, i just realized what's going to happen.

he's going to be on dancing with the stars, isn't he

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:46 (three years ago)

So you want to be a volleyball star

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:47 (three years ago)

Santos tells me he meant “142,000 voters who voted for me” would have to ask for him to resign.

“The elevator cut that,” he said.

He said “no” when I asked if that means he won’t resign. https://t.co/wxqY9tUToB

— Will Steakin (@wsteaks) January 12, 2023

symsymsym, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:50 (three years ago)

can't find any pictures of george santos' stove, this has a kitchen shot but it's not the right angle

https://nypost.com/2022/12/29/george-santos-did-a-lot-of-damage-to-modest-queens-rental/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:51 (three years ago)

loooooooool

ok, i've changed my mind, he should stay. i want him to wear a hat with a camera on it like arrested development, though

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:51 (three years ago)

NYC'ers - what's your gut on what a place in queens like that would have - gas or electric?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:52 (three years ago)

the elevator clip, the fact that he was trying to be clever by saying that everyone who voted for him would have to ask for him to resign, and then the regular English language confusion of answering a question which implies a double negative. that is good stuff

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:54 (three years ago)

older building like that prob gas xp i think the northeast prob has a higher than average gas stove occurrence i was surprised by how dominant electric is nationally seems like in ny/boston etc theres way more gas even in inexpensive housing

Gas stoves by income

(yes, I have a microdata set now, it's only going to get worse for the gascucks from here) pic.twitter.com/x2ZIsY2D5O

— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) January 12, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:58 (three years ago)

He's like the human embodiment of the Knights and Knaves logic puzzle. Santos is a habitual liar. He is asked if he won't resign, and he answers "no." Will he resign?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:00 (three years ago)

makes sense i guess if it correlates with housing age which would also makes sense since the electric stove is a relatively recent invention xp self

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:01 (three years ago)

“have you, not, at last, no shame?”

“…no?”

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:01 (three years ago)

All NYC apartments I’ve lived in have had gas stoves. That’s maybe 5 different apartments.

ian, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:05 (three years ago)

lol tracer

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:06 (three years ago)

yeah its like totally standard, which makes sense most buildings predate electric stoves so theyre all set up for gas when its time to buy a new stove you get a gas one and hook it up xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:07 (three years ago)

garland has appointed a special counsel to probe biden's classified documents scandal

the difference between this and trump's maralago documents scandal doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that karl rove held up a whiteboard on fox last night explaining the differences between the two cases. just the fact that there is a probe into biden's version of fucking up the handling of classified documents is enough for most people to hold them as equivalent, "everyone does it" and "democrats are the same as republicans". well played

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:20 (three years ago)

Garland did the right thing

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:34 (three years ago)

Don't know anything about this guy, but this is a good ad for a red-state Democrat. Not much chance of flipping Mississippi I'd guess, but not a bad tack. (And yeah, he's one of those Presleys.)

Mississippi deserves leaders who fight for our families, children and workers rather than themselves and their rich friends. We deserve leaders who will never forget where they came from or who put them in office.

That's why I'm running for Governor of Mississippi. pic.twitter.com/hyQzrLX0X1

— Brandon Presley (@BrandonPresley) January 12, 2023

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:36 (three years ago)

i had a hood fan in new york that just blew back into the room if you turned it on while cooking it would blow into your face

got your hood fan revoked

more crankable (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:41 (three years ago)

I wish Mr. Presley well but I'm not sure it's a good time for Brandons

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:43 (three years ago)

His approval rating's up too.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:45 (three years ago)

Garland did the right thing

oh, i agree! i guess my post heavily implies that it was wrong. no, i think garland had to do it. i guess i'm just looking ahead to trump's 2024 campaign and how he'll be able to fend off any mentions of maralago classified documents with 'joe biden does it too'. but if anything is ever going to bring him down for real, it wasn't likely to be handling of classified docs anyway, and i doubt many voters care too much about it in the first place.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:53 (three years ago)

I don't watch CNN, but a friend told me Tapper, Blitzer, etc. were salivating even as they repeated the two cases are TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

My guess is the Average Person doesn't care, regarding this discovery and Trump's as part of the venality that comes with working in the Oval Office. If they hate Trump, it's not because he purloined documents.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:57 (three years ago)

Nettleton is just about 10 miles from here so Presley is Local Boy Done Good. He's the only Democrat left here who has anything resembling a statewide office, though it's only the top 1/3 of the state. His story is full of dramatic personal bits. His uncle was Lee County Sheriff, killed in a shootout with a kidnapper in 2001. He (Brandon) got a grip on bad eating habits and lost like 200 lbs. in the aughts, which is why he looks so different in some old photos. He's enormously popular around here because he's the one state official visibly working to benefit individuals rather than business interests -- refusing utility rate hikes, making actual huge dents in spam/telemarketing calls (I get about 1/100th of the calls I used to), and the biggest thing, he spent the last 10 years getting rural Northern Mississippi fibered up for broadband. I won't say he did it singlehandedly but he was the public face of the movement, getting a bill passed that allowed rural electric utilities to create ISP spinoffs and helping them navigate the red tape for federal funding for fiber installation. It was as big a deal as the TVA getting electricity to MS homes in the 1930s imo, and the work is just about done. My broadband bill keeps going down every year because there's actual competition.

I don't know if a Dem can win statewide office in MS -- if Brandon Presley can't, I don't think it can be done.

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:08 (three years ago)

Let's go Brandon!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:12 (three years ago)

i wish him well.

i find the biden documents scandal dispiriting. it not only makes it impossible to prosecute trump for the document theft, it makes it harder to hold him to any kind of account for january 6. just looks really bad for democrats

treeship., Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:25 (three years ago)

Eh whatever. Yes, to the right it becomes part of the canon of Democratic scandals/hyopcrisies. Rational people can tell the difference. And most people didn't care much about Trump having documents and won't care much about Biden. It's not like confidential documents at Mar a Lago were ever going to be a tipping point.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:27 (three years ago)

it makes it look like the fbi raid was political

treeship., Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:28 (three years ago)

it doesn't make it impossible to prosecute Trump, it makes it impossible to prosecute Trump in the court of public opinion. Garland's already proven willing to do something unprecedented in his investigation of Trump, and he seems not very likely to let public perception guide what he's doing.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:28 (three years ago)

it certainly gives some obvious talking points to draw comparisons with Trump, but it's not clear how a completely separate case makes it impossible to prosecute. Maybe they both broke the law!

In other words, what Neanderthal said

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:29 (three years ago)

they should prosecute them both, sentence them to the same cell, and then livestream it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:30 (three years ago)

^^^

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:34 (three years ago)

Trump calling Jack Smith an "unfair Savage" LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:42 (three years ago)

I'm a Document Purloiner, Get Me Out of Here!

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:43 (three years ago)

feel like it should be more of an odd couple sitcom type scenario where theyre roommates going about their days in an apartment together

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:46 (three years ago)

i find the biden documents scandal dispiriting. it not only makes it impossible to prosecute trump for the document theft, it makes it harder to hold him to any kind of account for january 6. just looks really bad for democrats

Yep, you're exactly the kind of person who would react this way. Have you considered sending an application in to CNN?

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:49 (three years ago)

Didn’t give a shit about Trump’s documents, don’t care about these. It really makes life easier.

Giving people money: it works.

new paper: the 2021 Child Tax Credit — which from July to Dec 2021 gave qualifying families up to $3,600 per child in auto monthly payments — not only appeared to “reduced child poverty by half” it also notably “improved the mental health of adults in the lowest-income families.” pic.twitter.com/Pl4lNV4mGX

— talmon joseph smith (@talmonsmith) January 11, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:55 (three years ago)

Normal non-addicted humans cannot be expected to tell the difference between different flavors of outrage. They will see #bOtHsIdEs and conclude #bOtHsIdEs.

As long as the #bOtHsIdEs talking point is out there, it is salient. I wish it wasn't, but it is.

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 January 2023 20:01 (three years ago)


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