look Jeff I'm gutted the Wolves lost tonight too but this is taking it too far
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link
Proximity to Johnny Depp claims another life
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link
https://i.postimg.cc/vHttvVXS/E48-F3-A73-210-E-4201-8161-1-ED40-E860-D66.jpg
― can you still hit dinngers (gyac), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
And there's so much booze to drink up everywhere you turnLiver Collins paid for's on the way
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Friday, 20 January 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
we should just call this thread "things"
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
I think part of the reason why people don’t really take celiac disease seriously is because “celiac” sounds like another name for celery root, “cream of celiac soup”, etc. If people wanted to take the affliction seriously they’d call it Deathwheat Disease or something
― french testicle (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link
Going to say this thread passed the point of no return when raging terf everything feels comfortable showing up and joking there.
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 08:35 (one year ago) link
i'm glad you like the soccer mommy record but i am not going to listen to your phosphorescent cum music
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
omg new borad description plz
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
lmfaoooo
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link
Which record is the phosphorescent cum record
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
https://media.cdr.nl/COVER/MEDIUM/FRONT/JK180252/Muchacho.jpg
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
Developing a new respect for Facebook users tbh
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
omg missed that Brad callout lol. quite a good description of death's dynamic shroud lol
― imago, Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
ouch my mind
― bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
the thread policethey live inside of my head
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
halcyon days when ILM didn't give a shit about this bollocks
― imago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link
BeebehwaddoweegoSommerolahweeno-oh
― The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 05:06 (one year ago) link
posters you had pleasantly forgotten but have recently been reminded of their existence, bitch about them here
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
Oh god did I really write that an approach "was almost always agglutinative - building up thin layers of harmony that become orchestral in the aggregate"? What a pretentious ass. God, there should be some kind of ignition lock on my keyboard like they have for drunk drivers. I should be barred from posting unless I can demonstrate an appropriate level of good sense and humility.
― Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 February 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
glutin free is more accessible
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcpwuK1Fmx4
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
This generation has its Call of Duty Modern Warfares. We had real war simulatorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cp4tlrGYY
― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
could you get a new fuckin' schtick please?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
Next phase, new wave, dance craze, anywaysIt's still indie shit to me
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link
God I hate fucking Fugazi
― end-times league extra (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link
don't fuck 'em then
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link
doctor doctor it hoitz when i go like this
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 23:29 (one year ago) link
orange you glad I... to hell with it
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link
nobody ever sat me down and gave me the talk about being black but then again i was raised by the white parent and grandparent. but was always obvious that i stood out because of how i looked in that nobody at primary school was the same colour as me and only one other pupil at secondary school. by the time i got to the age where i was out by myself wariness and watchfulness of my surroundings was second nature. which pubs you could go into or even walk past and which ones you couldn't. if going to a new place sensing when it was probably best to leave sharpish etc strangely the one aspect that completely passed me by and fortunately has had no bad consequences is that i was never particularly wary of the police, probably because not living in a city i barely ever saw them or interacted with them luckily.
― oscar bravo, Saturday, 18 February 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link
It's like Turrican but without all the wit and charisma
― MaresNest, Saturday, 18 February 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
It'd be a derail on the thread, but "in tune with their feelings and thoughts around sex, gender, and etc" is just _so_ far from my recollection of being a teenager.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 18 February 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link
I probably should have clarified: one of the things that's constantly being thrown into anti-trans rhetoric is that kids are confused and are being unduly influenced/"groomed" by adults, which implies that kids are unaware and have no agency in regards to their own feelings and thoughts around the most intimate aspects of their lives.
But I was told CONSTANTLY as a teenager that I couldn't *possibly* know that I was gay, and all that this did was turn me into a closet-case anorexic who moved from eating disorders to uninhibited drug and alcohol abuse. I had to come out THREE TIMES, for the final time at the age of 23. I lost years of emotional and interpersonal development around intimacy and relationships, and only entered a more healthy relationship stage in my mid-30s under the threat of my own mortality.
The absolute disregard, disrespect, and delegitimization of teenagers' thoughts and feelings is a huge part of anti-lgbtq+ rhetoric, and when so-called "liberals" repeat these sorts of talking points, they're merely showing that they, too, don't actually care about children or the sanctity of life or their professed politics, but only about reinforcing cis heteropatriarchal power structures.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 February 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Saturday, 18 February 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
and when so-called "liberals" repeat these sorts of talking points, they're merely showing that they, too, don't actually care about children or the sanctity of life or their professed politics, but only about reinforcing cis heteropatriarchal power structures.
it revolves around this larger issue of how to determine when a person is entitled to agency and how it feels like that "magic age" gets further and further delayed, at least here in the US ... like increasing the age at when someone can drink alcohol or purchase cigarettes or attend kindergarten, which have some thoughtful, compassionate arguments in favor of the delay, but these things are also coming from this place of protection and restriction of agency ... and I disagree with the statement that the "liberals" "don't actually care about children" ... just that the ways they are "caring" are fucked up in this context.
― sarahell, Saturday, 18 February 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
xp - you can't post a thread-derailing irrelevancy here, this is the 'second thoughts about posting to the correct thread' thread
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 18 February 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
fascists and conservatives worship "the child" while hating and brutalising actual children and plenty of liberals seem to be on board with this especially the most prominent ones, it doesn't really matter if they're coming from different places (I'm not sure about that myself) if they do the exact same thing
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 18 February 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
true "impact" vs "intent" is key here
― sarahell, Saturday, 18 February 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
I just don’t think that liberals “caring” about this issue usually amounts to anything more than those people being homophobic or transphobic
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 February 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link
― sarahell
speaking for myself good intent isn't a mitigating factor. if anything stuff like the new york times article has way more impact on me than whatever bullshit tucker carlson is saying on his show this week. i don't talk to my racist aunt who pretends to be a "principled conservative". i talk to and care about my liberal relatives who read the new york times and are influenced by what's in the new york times, and i'm not keen on the prospect of having to justify my existence to them or waste my time trying to debunk this week's version of the same bullshit disingenuous talking points about sports, bathrooms, etc. i saw julia serano, who has devoted a great deal of her career to educating people on these issues and debunking this nonsense, has finally just thrown up her hands and said "fuck it, bingo meme".
as much as we like to talk about "self-determination" the truth is that if that's all it took, i would have transitioned 25 years ago. we need cis allies. we need support. we need recognition. those of us who don't get that support, who don't have the opportunity to address our dysphoria through gender-affirming treatment... well, all of us know what the other option is. and with liberals... it feels like that support _is_ always conditional, that we perpetually have to keep justifying our existence to them. a lot of the liberals i know, they don't want to be on my side, they want to be on _everyone's_ side. that attitude doesn't do me any fucking good.
but if you're for me and against the people who want me dead, are you really a liberal at all? or are you _something else_?
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 18 February 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
I think that kind of contradiction (in various forms) is inherent to liberalism and part of why it feels some combination of ineffectual and complicit in the face of right wing terror, the history of liberals tolerating/advocating awful illiberal ideas and policies is pretty much the history of liberalism
― Left, Saturday, 18 February 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
a lot of the liberals i know, they don't want to be on my side, they want to be on _everyone's_ side
truth bomb
― ꙮ (map), Saturday, 18 February 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link
so much of liberalism is about mitigating guilt ime. protecting white goodness/innocence essentially. i think that impulse explains a lot of the helicopter / protective parenting too. there isn't a principled thesis or viewpoint on anything behind it & no honest "chips in the game" so to speak. that, in some ways, is more dangerous than people who have a clear identity or vision they stand for, even if it's of the fascist variety.
― ꙮ (map), Saturday, 18 February 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
The problem with liberalism is its identification with pluralism: liberals want Every Voice Heard, in part because they can pat their own backs and because increased newspaper/mag subscriptions = pluralism.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link
If you don't recognize when ideas and beliefs are antithetical to your own, then the chances are good that you have no ideas or beliefs, just a bunch of random noise instead.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 18 February 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
thinking about it my issues with liberalism run deeper than concern over having to justify my existence to my rich liberal relatives. i honestly believe that the single biggest obstacle to my transition was my internalized liberalism. it wasn't until my liberal beliefs had been shattered that i was able to justify my existence to _myself_.
i think map's description of how liberalism worked for me is essentially accurate. it kept me in a state of "white innocence", which is to say ignorance. for me, the events of 2016 shattered that belief system. i had a hard fucking time dealing with it. part of this artificial state of innocence was the belief that donald trump absolutely was not going to be the next president. i was invested enough in this idea that in the event he won, i planned to kill myself. my internalized liberalism actually ran that deep, that i was willing to go full fucking nero decree over it.
anyway, i didn't, but the experience shocked me into needing to confront, for the first time, the question of who i was and who i wanted to be. if we were all basically the same deep down, all basically wanted the same stuff, than i didn't have to actually consider my own beliefs and desires. i could let other people do that for me, and as long as i was a cishet white man, that was going to work out just fine for me.
in other words, the liberal beliefs i was taught coerced me into performing my own self-erasure. i'm not really a fan of that, personally. i don't feel like those values are basically good values.
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link
I suspect the endlessly contentious and apocalyptic US Politics threads have led a cadre of ilxors to remove I Love Everything from their Site New Answers, so they may never see this poll.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 February 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link
i remember when she was in a mediocre indie band that i had to show enthusiasm about ...
― sarahell, Sunday, 19 February 2023 04:19 (one year ago) link
just wondering how some people have the mental fortitude to pick fights with people over basically nothing on a daily basis. what do they get out of it? is it fun? I couldn't live my life like that.
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Sunday, 19 February 2023 04:35 (one year ago) link
otm
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 February 2023 04:37 (one year ago) link