U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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i keep thinking Gettr is some sort of hookup app

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:29 (three years ago)

gettr done

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:46 (three years ago)

xpost also, by the time the staffer felt bad, they'd probably already been contagious for days. so the likelihood that following the alleged protocol would have stopped transmission is iffy. esp w/ non-masking Porter.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 16:00 (three years ago)

Nassau County (NY) GOP just called for Santos to resign. I don't think they care about the ethics/lies, I just assume they smell smoke on this guy and don't want to be near him when he explodes.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:03 (three years ago)

it was kind of sad to watch him grow and gain confidence during his first days at school, during the speaker votes. at first he sat in the back row by himself. by the end he was sitting with boebert, gaetz, and greene and it was clear that he was being embraced by the troll army

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:13 (three years ago)

The Nassau County Republican Committee has exactly no power over a sitting member of congress, though.

And because the House GOP needs every vote it can get, it has no incentive to remove Santos.

How did he get the money to run? He won't say, and no one else knows. It's not necessarily illegal to suddenly have money, unless someone can (a) figure out where it came from and (b) demonstrate to someone with actual enforcement powers that it was illegally obtained. A general atmosphere of privacy protections makes this difficult unless a literal or figurative smoking gun is found.

So my prediction is that he serves out his two stupid years doing precisely nothing of use, and retires into obscurity. Perhaps he can go into landscaping.

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:20 (three years ago)

Should he resign, a special election would happen, yes?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:21 (three years ago)

...which would presumably be won by a Democrat. Hence the entire GOP machinery will work to prevent that happening. There is no incentive for Santos to resign, nor is there an incentive for House leadership to force him to. Indeed, quite the contrary - the incentives all run the other direction.

Remember these are the people who gave you "I don’t care if Herschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles, I want control of the Senate!"

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:25 (three years ago)

Ronny Jackson is fundraising off this pic.twitter.com/sBetEvJLbG

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 11, 2023

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:27 (three years ago)

it's a miracle we found out about lead when we did sheesh

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:28 (three years ago)

"the fatcats in washington are trying to take OUR LEAD"

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:29 (three years ago)

There it is.

Alabama’s attorney general has said women who use pills to induce abortion could be prosecuted, citing a law first passed to protect children from meth lab fumes. His warning comes after the federal government’s recent move to ease access to medication abortion from retail pharmacies.

While Alabama has a near-total abortion ban that took effect after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June, that legislation targets abortion providers and exempts the people receiving abortions from liability. However, Attorney General Steve Marshall’s office said women could still face consequences under the state’s “chemical endangerment of a child” statute.

“The Human Life Protection Act targets abortion providers, exempting women ‘upon whom an abortion is performed or attempted to be performed’ from liability under the law,” Marshall said in an emailed statement Wednesday. “It does not provide an across-the-board exemption from all criminal laws, including the chemical-endangerment law — which the Alabama Supreme Court has affirmed and reaffirmed protects unborn children.”

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:31 (three years ago)

xp You'll pry my asbestos out of my cold, dead hands*

FREEDOM!

* = Literally

everybody was tofu fighting (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:32 (three years ago)

...which would presumably be won by a Democrat.

everyone keeps saying that. they have to run someone with a pulse, though.

robert zimmerman, the guy who got his ass kicked by santos in the election (embarrassing), must have been a supremely horrible candidate. i just learned that it was the first time that two openly LGBTQ candidates opposed each other in an election. zimmerman seemed to be an empty DNC suit kind of candidate. even when the race was very close, the RNC took a look at zimmerman and decided they could safely spend elsewhere and still win the district:

Late in the campaign, both parties realized the elections on Long Island would be close and could decide control of the House. A Democratic political action committee spent $3 million in the 3rd District race to support Zimmerman. On the Republican side, the Congressional Leadership Fund spent nothing, while at the same time committing $1.5 million to the neighboring 2nd and 4th district races, also ultimately won by Republican candidates.[40]

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:36 (three years ago)

It takes about three times as much energy to produce and deliver electricity to an electric range as a gas range. There's data on this *everywhere*. The major thing would be forcing people to buy induction-based ranges, which legitimately utilize less energy than gas ranges. Otherwise the whole thing just seems like...yes, government overreach.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:44 (three years ago)

(I prefer electric for baking, but gas is FAR superior for stovetop cooking, it's not even a question afaic)

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:45 (three years ago)

I love our induction stove. It is very efficient--water boils in a couple of minutes.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:54 (three years ago)

it's less about energy usage and more about indoor air pollution, right?

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:57 (three years ago)

I love gas cooking, but apparently the amount of particulate air pollution it puts into your home is horrifying.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 17:59 (three years ago)

xp oops

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:00 (three years ago)

yes this is about emissions from the range. also this is about not allowing gas in new construction going forward, not taking it away from anywhere it currently is (I have a gas range that we just bought a year ago, in Berkeley, which outlawed gas some time ago).

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:10 (three years ago)

I love our gas range but I also recognize the indoor air pollution issues. Whenever we move from this house, I doubt we'd take the gas stove with us.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:13 (three years ago)

Anything to feed the perpetual outrage machine.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:15 (three years ago)

What did you just say about the outrage machine?! SAY IT TO MY FACE

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:20 (three years ago)

remember Trump's riffing on low-flow shower heads? this is the same thing

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:21 (three years ago)

Ten-flush toilets

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:22 (three years ago)

Energy efficient light bulbs

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:22 (three years ago)

I am not wishing pollution on anyone, especially children, but cooking on an electric range is awful.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:28 (three years ago)

eh fuck, many xposts

It takes about three times as much energy to produce and deliver electricity to an electric range as a gas range. There's data on this *everywhere*.

i really, really don't want to get into this shit, but it's more complicated than that with stovetops and ovens. yes, you can google it and you will find data everywhere saying that gas ranges are 3 times as efficient as electric. but that's referring only to the source energy, which is only one part of the equation (and also depends on your utility's fuel mix). with oven ranges, you also have to consider the cooking efficiency - how efficiently the heat is transferred from the source to what is being cooked. electric ranges are far more efficient in this regard. there is also a difference when considering stovetop cooking vs inside the oven. in both cases, the cooking efficiency is better with electric. and both options are less efficient than induction.

a big factor is also what kind of source fuels your electric utility uses. that's a big reason why a blanket statement that gas is 3x more efficient than electric is misleading. it depends on where you live, and it also depends on how frequently you use the stove.

when you're using the oven, the most important energy decision you can make, by far, is what you're cooking on it - meat or veggies.

i'm not even going to get into the methane and NOx leakage and asthma stuff.

so, i'm just trying to point out that there are actually a lot of tradeoffs and that it's not simple at all. i guess it is simple, if you can afford to get an induction stove.

https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/efficient-cooking
https://grist.org/buildings/your-gas-stove-is-warming-the-climate-even-when-its-turned-off/
https://www.vox.com/2022/1/27/22902490/gas-stoves-methane-climate-pollution-health-off

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:29 (three years ago)

a big factor is also what kind of source fuels your electric utility uses. that's a big reason why a blanket statement that gas is 3x more efficient than electric is misleading. it depends on where you live, and it also depends on how frequently you use the stove.

yeah I thought this was the idea behind phasing these out. theoretically you could switch an electric grid to renewable energy sources (everything is electric where I live because of heavy investment in hydro power), but you can't use anything other than gas for gas

also I've used both, and the idea that electric ranges are somehow *vastly* inferior to gas is silly—have the people saying this never used a newer one? not the old coil ones (those really are shit), the flat ones that are also easier to clean than gas ranges. granted, they're slower to heat things, but you can adjust I promise

rob, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:46 (three years ago)

I finally got an electic kettle, racked with guilt for using natural gas to boil water

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:49 (three years ago)

I got my mom an induction cooktop, awkward for anything where you have to shake a pan or pick it up to flip but she got used to it pretty quick. Aside from speed, not wasting any heat is pretty nice in the summer.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:56 (three years ago)

Whenever we move from this house, I doubt we'd take the gas stove with us.

who takes the stove with them when they sell a house anyway?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:00 (three years ago)

the people who sold me my house

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:03 (three years ago)

Republicans know their most natural constituency is old people who hate change.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:05 (three years ago)

a new challenger has entered the arena

Rep. Barbara Lee has told her fellow lawmakers she’s running for Senate in California, according to two sources familiar with the situation.

She informed her colleagues in a closed-door Congressional Black Caucus meeting on Wednesday.

Asked later Wednesday about her plans, Lee said in a brief interview she’d officially announce “when it’s appropriate.”

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:27 (three years ago)

as opposed to the leak

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:28 (three years ago)

would suck to lose my representative but would be happy to see her in the senate.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:29 (three years ago)

That Ted Cruz hard seltzer-throwing incident just took an even more embarrassing turn

https://www.queerty.com/ted-cruz-hard-seltzer-throwing-incident-just-took-even-embarrassing-turn-20230110

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:09 (three years ago)

Omg this is George Santos’s résumé. Insanity. Just pure lies and not even believable ones. pic.twitter.com/gffXl9twW9

— Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) January 11, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:16 (three years ago)

KM, i frankly don’t give a fuck— cooking on an electric stove sucks ass, as a majority of cooks will tell you, and all of those articles are part of a continuous effort to shift the blame of industrial pollution and climate change onto normal people who don’t and can’t actually have much effect on these things.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:25 (three years ago)

Electric range is good if you are in a dorm freshman year and need a hotplate. After that, fuck no.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:29 (three years ago)

"if you have to cook on electric, you might as well go out to eat" - quote from a bougie kitchen magazine 20 years ago, still true

and yes, hard agree that personal choices are not the problem here, at all, ever

sleeve, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:32 (three years ago)

Electric is fine, you just can't crank it to high and expect to cut heat immediately so you have to plan ahead (except for induction, where you can control heat much finer than gas).

I've never lived anywhere with a useful vent-a-hood so high heat cooking is pretty much irrelevant anyway. When I had a gas stove I bought a plug-in induction burner that I used 99% of the time anyway.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:42 (three years ago)

Well, this thread took a turn.

I have an electric range. I live in an building about 45 years old.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:43 (three years ago)

As for indoor air pollution, I can understand concerns about it for some individuals and families, but frankly I just think that the pervasive desire to get rid of every harmful thing in our environments has led to anxiety, fear, and a culture of paranoia. For most people, a gas stove isn’t going to kill them. Shit, these boomers keep staying alive and they grew up in a world where everyone smoked indoors, constantly!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:48 (three years ago)

I’ve got a very “cold dead hands” attitude towards gas stoves myself

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:50 (three years ago)

i have a gas stove and it’s good but gas ovens are terrible ime. they only have a bottom element ime wtf (to get heat from above you have to use “the broiler” drawer?!)

but like, i would be fine with switching to an electric stove. i’ve cooked on them before. like…. whatever. and if you’re really concerned with getting your pan immediately hot (do you work in a restaurant?) get a carbon steel pan or gtfo, that heavy tefal aluminum with a dementia-tastic coating takes twice as long to heat up

these boomers keep staying alive


apart from the ones that don’t but y’know sure, don’t wear seatbelts either, keith richards isn’t dead yet so it must be fine

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:53 (three years ago)

To swerve again:

interesting and scary article about Montana, seems like a blueprint that is happening in a lot of places. This shouldn’t be paywalled, gift article so to speak:

”If you want to live here, be a Christian “

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:54 (three years ago)

Quite possibly the cigarette smoking indoors led them to vote for Reagan, Bush, Trump, etc.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:55 (three years ago)


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